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SixtoReport: D10/D12 Satellite Info in Post#1 - Both D10 & D12 in service


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#541 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 10:01 AM

I can but there is a significant difference on signal levels between 103 (cb) (all high 90s) and ca ( from 90 to 53). I will wait until everything is settled to call my MDU company for a new alignement.

For those with a significant difference between D10 and D12, as we've seen, the issue may not be alignment. LNB, Non DirecTV splitter ...
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 10:10 AM

For those with a significant difference between D10 and D12, as we've seen, the issue may not be alignment. LNB, Non DirecTV splitter ...


Thanks Sixto. I just find strange the fact that all my transponders on all other satellites are over 90. All my splitters are from Directv and I have a dedicated SWIM from my MDU company (MFH2 system). I will call them when D10 is fixed and stay on its final position.
A good thing about living in a MDU building is that when something is wrong there are a bunch of other people who is also affected and chances are somebody else can also call them.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 10:14 AM

If you live in St George UT zip 84791 I have some good news for you - you will get 6 HD SLC locals as soon as D12 is switched on.


Sadly, this does not seem to be the case. It's (D12) been on a couple of weeks now and we still aren't getting a signal here in St. George as far as I can tell. Thanks for getting my hopes up! :P

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 10:15 AM

When might we expect the carrier signal on D10 Conus to be turned off and the spotbeam transmissions to be shifted to D12? Wait until next Wednesday?

Post #1 and last few pages is what we know.
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 10:46 AM

Sadly, this does not seem to be the case. It's (D12) been on a couple of weeks now and we still aren't getting a signal here in St. George as far as I can tell. Thanks for getting my hopes up! :P


My belief is that locals have not yet been transferred to D12. I believe they will be by next Wednesday June 2.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 11:56 AM

Thanks Sixto.
103cb 1-8 79 76 81 77 76 74 80 77
9-16 79 76 83 79 79 78 NA NA
103ca 9-16 85 82 79 77 84 83 76 76
17-24 81 82 79 78 83 82 81 76

We'll see what the "after" looks like


103cb 1-8 91 88 91 88 86 85 89 86
9-16 89 86 92 89 89 89 NA NA

103ca 9-16 95 95 91 89 94 95 87 88
17-24 92 95 90 93 95 95 94 92

101 94 96 96 0 95 99 95 98
95 96 96 61 95 99 95 95
95 0 96 72 95 99 95 99
95 0 96 0 96 97 93 99

99 93 93 89 87 91 91 84 84
92 94 85 85 93 84 NA NA

Much improved but not perfect. Will have them back when everything is ameliorated, in it's place and settled.
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 12:47 PM

I'll try to check LIL PID's in next 24 hours and report:)

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 02:20 PM

Based on some crumbs dropped by some well-placed little birds, I don't believe that's the nature of the problem, nor the nature of the intended solution.


Well if it isn't a physical deployment problem with northern spot beam array than it must be electrical in nature, that would fall into the category of power down,reboot and reload operational software.

But as others stated why move the bird just to reboot it?

Edited by Matt9876, 26 May 2010 - 02:37 PM.
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 02:46 PM

Well if it isn't a physical deployment problem with northern spot beam array than it must be electrical in nature, that would fall into the category of power down,reboot and reload operational software.

But as others stated why move the bird just to reboot it?

Have you read the linked explanation from the STA request? The "tests" they are doing will put out more power than the satellite typically uses and will interfere with other satellites (for very brief periods of time). Having that interference source as far away from in service satellites makes sense.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 02:57 PM

My belief is that locals have not yet been transferred to D12. I believe they will be by next Wednesday June 2.


You realize things can be moved on other days than Wednesday. By all we know, all the locals could move tomorrow. They can even add channels on other days than Wednesday too. When they added our local CW station, they added it on a Saturday.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 03:05 PM

Have you read the linked explanation from the STA request? The "tests" they are doing will put out more power than the satellite typically uses and will interfere with other satellites (for very brief periods of time). Having that interference source as far away from in service satellites makes sense.


Thanks for the PDF (had to make changes to my firewall to read it) makes perfect sense if they are going to overdrive the transponders. Hope it works!

Lots of peoples LiLs depend on it.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:01 PM

Well Looks Like I Cant Get My Dam Hd On My Boat Why In The Hell I Can Pick Up D10 D11 101 119 110 Fine And Cant Get This Dam D12. My Thing Is If We Boat Owners Cant Get HD On Harbour Island In The Bahamas Why Can You Get It In Nassau. Bull Directv Looking To Get Dish Installed On My Boat When I Get Back In Florida.


I cant read anything you said.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:10 PM

More Details (5/26/2010):

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=819504


This is great news, being that the 30 days includes the move back.

And they're moving D10 traffic back.
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:39 PM

And they're moving D10 traffic back.


Already, or they will be?

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:43 PM

More Details (5/26/2010):

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=819504


This is great news, being that the 30 days includes the move back.

And they're moving D10 traffic back.


Sixto Thanks For That Good News. Well Its Good To Know That D10 Traffic Will Return, And I Will Have My Cnn In Hd. :)

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:44 PM

More Details (5/26/2010):

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=819504


This is great news, being that the 30 days includes the move back.

And they're moving D10 traffic back.


Already, or they will be?


They Will Be Moving Stuff Back Once D10 Is Back Online.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 06:44 PM

They Will Be Moving Stuff Back Once D10 Is Back Online.


Thanks. Hadn't read the letter yet.

Looks like our first indication that D10 is moving back will be it starts transmitting again.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 06:49 PM

More Details (5/26/2010):

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=819504


This is great news, being that the 30 days includes the move back.

And they're moving D10 traffic back.


Certainly sounds like all D-10 offloading will be complete by 5/2.

Unfortunately not in a position to use my LIL PID download for a couple of days.

Will report the results ASAP.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:46 PM

you already have CNN in HD. channel 202 where its been for 3 years.

He's explained several times that the D12 national beam isn't the same in the Bahamas as D10, thus moving back to D10 helps him.
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 09:39 PM

He's explained several times that the D12 national beam isn't the same in the Bahamas as D10, thus moving back to D10 helps him.


I notice that you refer to the D12 "national" beam and not the "conus" one. This is also the case for the continental US beam footprint on Satbeams.com. Is this just a new name or is there some difference between the two?




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