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SixtoReport: D10/D12 Satellite Info in Post#1 - Both D10 & D12 in service


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#1201 OFFLINE   R0am3r

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 03:28 PM

D10 circling home base. Target 102.815°, with little gap


Wow - I guess my SL3 only sees a very narrow piece of the sky. My D12 signals are all mid to high 80s. But, the D10 signals are sitting in the 60s. Time to put D10 in reverse and park it.

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#1202 OFFLINE   beakor

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 04:07 PM

or time to peak your dish.

#1203 OFFLINE   R0am3r

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 04:21 PM

or time to peak your dish.


I got it peaked last week by a D* tech. I would guess that once D10 settles at 102.815 degrees, it should be very similar to the D12 signals (mid 80s for me).

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#1204 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 04:27 AM

Now that both D12 and D10 are in service and with the new 14 HD channels launched....I just re-checked the signal levels, and they are as solid as ever.

While D10 fluctuated slightly during the "amelioration" period, the signal levels have been within 1-2% of the same numbers the entire period of time.

Nice work DirecTV.

The left screen image below is D12, and the right is D10.

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#1205 OFFLINE   Jon J

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 07:59 AM

Now that both D12 and D10 are in service and with the new 14 HD channels launched....I just re-checked the signal levels, and they are as solid as ever.

I have signal levels in the mid to upper 90s on every other satellite in the arc except at 103. Levels are consistently in the low 80s both conus and spot.

What might be causing this wide variation.?
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#1206 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 08:04 AM

I have signal levels in the mid to upper 90s on every other satellite in the arc except at 103. Levels are consistently in the low 80s both conus and spot.

What might be causing this wide variation.?

Signal levels of 80 something and up are considered OK...however...

It could be you need some Dish alignment "tweaking". I was always amazed to observe that when they did mine...how little directional change it took to see significantly different results.

A couple of degrees can actually sink or swim the signal levels. The 103 sat, as well as the 88 and 1010 sat, each as their "sweet spot" for alignment.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 08:08 AM

Signal levels of 80 something and up are considered OK...however....


I've been waiting to make the call until the birds settled down some in their drifting around the heavens.

Signals I'm seeing on D12 are in the mid to high 60's with one in the 50's. The channels look good most of the time with very occasional pixilation.

Time for a call and a dish tweak....

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 08:10 AM

I've been waiting to make the call until the birds settled down some in their drifting around the heavens.

Signals I'm seeing on D12 are in the mid to high 60's with one in the 50's. The channels look good most of the time with very occasional pixilation.

Time for a call and a dish tweak....

Absolutely....103 should also be way above that...the birds are solid now for a while...so a good time to get that alignment. By the way...if you have the Protection Plan, let them know that when you order the service visit - it should be free.
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#1209 OFFLINE   sdirv

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 08:27 AM

Absolutely....103 should also be way above that...the birds are solid now for a while...so a good time to get that alignment. By the way...if you have the Protection Plan, let them know that when you order the service visit - it should be free.


Just made the call, they'll be here tomorrow morning....

I don't have Protection Plan but was told I get one "free" service call every 12 "rolling" months and that this would be it.......otherwise, the dish tweak would have cost me $49.99.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 08:45 AM

Just made the call, they'll be here tomorrow morning....

I don't have Protection Plan but was told I get one "free" service call every 12 "rolling" months and that this would be it.......otherwise, the dish tweak would have cost me $49.99.

Very nice....now that's customer service.

I suspect you'll see totally new and much higher "numbers" tomorrow after the alignment.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 10:53 AM

Is D10 back at 102.815 yet?
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#1212 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 11:14 AM

Is D10 back at 102.815 yet?

Been no update since the latest in post#1.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 01:43 PM

My 103*CA numbers are in the mid 80's while my 103*CB are in the 70's. My 103*S has some in the 50's and my 99*C and S go from 60's to the 90's. Would it be worth it to have my dish aligned? I know it takes forever to get the signals from the 99 Sat's and my box even locked up the first time I did it and had to reboot it. I'm not sure what channel goes to what number to know how much the low numbers really effect my picture quality.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 01:46 PM

My 103*CA numbers are in the mid 80's while my 103*CB are in the 70's. My 103*S has some in the 50's and my 99*C and S go from 60's to the 90's. Would it be worth it to have my dish aligned?

Not just worth it...recommended.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 01:58 PM

I'll have to set that up then. Thanks :)

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 02:36 PM

Home Sweet Home. :)
Name			DirecTV-10

NORAD #			31862

Epoch (UTC)		06-24-2010 08:03:39

Orbit # at Epoch	1087

Inclination		0.029

RA of A. Node		152.212

Eccentricity		0.0000251

Argument of Perigee	278.552

Revs per day		1.00269744

Period			23h 56m 07s (1436.12 min)

Semi-major axis		42 165 km

Perigee x Apogee	35 786 x 35 788 km

Element number / age	510 / 0 day(s)



Lon			102.8261° W

Lat			0.0020° S

Alt (km)		35 787.480



[B][U] # [/u] [u] Date[/u] [u]GMT  [/u] [u]Perigee[/u]  [u]Apogee[/u] [u]  Gap [/u] [u] Longitude[/u] [u] Latitude[/u] [u] Inclin [/u][/B]

510 06-24 08:03 35,786 x 35,788      2 102.8261°W  0.0020°N  0.029°

509 06-21 05:48 35,778 x 35,804     26 102.9193°W  0.0053°N  0.046°

508 06-18 11:20 35,778 x 35,805     27 102.7485°W  0.0290°S  0.039°

507 06-16 05:41 35,785 x 35,790      4 102.6214°W  0.0103°N  0.033°

506 06-15 09:09 35,787 x 35,789      2 102.6071°W  0.0097°N  0.052°



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Posted 24 June 2010 - 02:47 PM

Time to schedule an appointment to peak my dish.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 02:59 PM

And a close to one of the most interesting times in DTV history.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 03:17 PM

I'm still curious why there is so much more variability in my D10 signals than my D12 signals.

D12 varies from 95 all the way to 96. :)

D10 is 87-95, with 10 under 90 and 4 from 91-95.

Sat at 99 could probably use a tweak on my system (some high 70s and a bunch of 80s), but I likely won't call them to do anything about it over just that.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 03:35 PM

Other than rain/snow fade are there other reasons for needing high signal #s ?




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