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#26 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 11:16 PM

The test mapping we see may simply be an error. We're still in wait and see mode.

Poking through DISH's additions while adding cities ...

5262 WVLA (33) BATON ROUGE, LA (NBC) added to 129° 9s42 (S Mississippi) (HD Lafayette, IN market *TEST* Hidden)

This should be Lafayette, LA ... the market is off by one in numbering.
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Posted 27 May 2010 - 07:17 AM

But the moderator has not indicated whether he has inside information from Dish to the effect that Dish will not offer a la carte national distants, or whether this is just his speculation. He has also indicated in the "RV and Distant Networks" thread that a waiver is necessary to receive distants in an recreational vehicle. This is not the case. Proof of registration of an RV takes the place of a waiver.

If Dish does not offer conus and a la carte national distants, then I expect that AAD will remain. If AAD goes away, Dish will no doubt offer conus national distants. They will not want to give up all the rv customers.

What is missing from this discussion is that we do not know the terms of the contract between AAD and Dish. That is what will now govern Dish's carriage of distants, once the injunction is lifted. That is the bottom line, and we don't know the terms of that contract.

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 03:01 PM

But the moderator has not indicated whether he has inside information from Dish to the effect that Dish will not offer a la carte national distants, or whether this is just his speculation. He has also indicated in the "RV and Distant Networks" thread that a waiver is necessary to receive distants in an recreational vehicle. This is not the case. Proof of registration of an RV takes the place of a waiver.

The newbee 31 post (so far) poster has overlooked the experience of the moderator in these issues. As the newbee states: "Proof of registration of an RV takes the place of a waiver." Provide valid registration and you have provided the waiver. Perhaps a nit or two could be picked over word choice. But you agree that the registration works as a waiver ... so when one says a waiver IS needed to add distants to an RV account we are in full agreement.

If you have misread anything I have posted as an official statement from DISH I apologize. Nothing I say should be construed as official policy of DISH Network, DirecTV or any other provider. Most people here understand that.

What is missing from this discussion is that we do not know the terms of the contract between AAD and Dish. That is what will now govern Dish's carriage of distants, once the injunction is lifted. That is the bottom line, and we don't know the terms of that contract.

If you have such information and can legally share it feel free. In a vacuum everyone is right and everyone is wrong, to a certain extent.

I'm pretty confident in the responses that I have given on this issue based on my knowledge and experience (including following the creation of the AAD service via DISH and the court cases involved). I'm not going to say DISH can't offer distants because of some deal with AAD or that AAD's contract will end immediately when DISH has the ability to offer distants. My expectation from years of watching DISH is that DISH will continue to take money from AAD for as long as AAD can afford to pay for the space. When AAD can no longer make the payments their service will naturally come to an end. If DISH can make more money from that space doing something else I would not expect the lease to AAD to be renewed. It is all business.

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 03:14 PM

This is the moderator's quote from the "RV and Distant Networks" post:
"Legal reception of distants in an RV does not require "a New Jersey service address". It requires a waiver and proof you own an RV - and a separate account for your RV than your home address."

The post says a waiver AND proof of recreational vehicle ownership is necessary. That is not the state of the law. A waiver is a separate process. A waiver is requested from the local station and is requested by the distant network carrier on behalf of the customer. Proof of ownership of an recreational vehicle is generally a registration card. These are two totally different things. You need one or the other to receive a distant network--not both.

I am not trying to nitpick. However, I want the rv owner to know what he has to do, so he does not enter into the cumbersome and frustrating waiver process when it is not necessary to do so.

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 03:40 PM

Whatever you point is, I believe you have made it. Now can we move on?




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