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#51 OFFLINE   Jon Ellis

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 09:54 PM

2. All cable systems in Umatilla County now carry Portland stations. (I guess that's irrelevant in terms of SV status.)


SV is only one way cable systems can carry out-of-market stations. They can also carry stations if they're a certain distance from the in-market affiliate, or if they have a small number of subscribers. Satellite doesn't have this option. Also, I believe the way the rules are written, a cable system can carry any PBS/non-comm station it wants.

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#52 OFFLINE   Terry K

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 04:34 AM

Unfortunately, the revised law does nothing for your case. The only way DirecTV could offer Portland stations in Umatilla County is if they appeared on the signficantly viewed list for the county, but they do not. (The list is at http://www.fcc.gov/m...tions050310.pdf)

This law does not really change anything for DirecTV, that I've seen, it only helps DISH Network by restoring some options that had been removed by a court order.


It does allow DirecTV to go into, say, St Joseph, MO and offer KC locals (since just about every major KC local is considered SV) as well as the ONE station in that DMA. That puts Directv far ahead of St Joe Cablevision as far as that goes.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 06:33 AM

It does allow DirecTV to go into, say, St Joseph, MO and offer KC locals (since just about every major KC local is considered SV) as well as the ONE station in that DMA. That puts Directv far ahead of St Joe Cablevision as far as that goes.

Has DirecTV done that yet? DISH has. DISH used St Joseph as one of their examples of why SV were needed so it makes sense that they actually provided the channels as soon as STELA moved SVs over from the distants law to the locals law for satellite carriers.

But in many other markets DISH has bypassed the SV stations and is carrying (or apparently planning on carrying) channels that are distants. Personally I believe DISH (and DirecTV) should provide SVs to the fullest extent of the law before providing distants.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 10:15 PM

It does allow DirecTV to go into, say, St Joseph, MO and offer KC locals (since just about every major KC local is considered SV) as well as the ONE station in that DMA. That puts Directv far ahead of St Joe Cablevision as far as that goes.


DirecTV was already allowed to do that. In Mankato, MN, they offer Mankato CBS with Minneapolis ABC, FOX, and NBC.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 01:38 PM

Has DirecTV done that yet? DISH has. DISH used St Joseph as one of their examples of why SV were needed so it makes sense that they actually provided the channels as soon as STELA moved SVs over from the distants law to the locals law for satellite carriers.

But in many other markets DISH has bypassed the SV stations and is carrying (or apparently planning on carrying) channels that are distants. Personally I believe DISH (and DirecTV) should provide SVs to the fullest extent of the law before providing distants.


I'm not sure what D* is doing up there yet. But St Joe Cablevision refuses to carry KCWE or KSMO since they would cut into their precious CW 100+ stuff.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 02:22 PM

I'm not sure what D* is doing up there yet. But St Joe Cablevision refuses to carry KCWE or KSMO since they would cut into their precious CW 100+ stuff.

Using Zip 64506 and choosing Buchanan County, DirecTV's website shows only the PBS national feed, in SD, as a St Joseph local.

DISH offers the local ABC; CBS, NBC and FOX from Kansas City; and the PBS national feed - all in SD. No CW from either provider as far as I can tell.

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 05:45 PM

directv offering national feeds for Saint Joe MO? I entered my zip (64503) and it is showing nationals from 60 -65 (in HD)??? I am suprised KQ2 is allowing them to provide ABC. I cannot verify that though for specific reasons

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:34 AM

directv offering national feeds for Saint Joe MO? I entered my zip (64503) and it is showing nationals from 60 -65 (in HD)??? I am suprised KQ2 is allowing them to provide ABC. I cannot verify that though for specific reasons

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Just gonna take a guess here. Having to look uo your zip code and not able to verify it sounds to me like it means one of two things. Either you dont have any locals which you probably would of just stated that and been excited you could get something or you use a different service address. Am I getting close?

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 05:21 PM

Just gonna take a guess here. Having to look uo your zip code and not able to verify it sounds to me like it means one of two things. Either you dont have any locals which you probably would of just stated that and been excited you could get something or you use a different service address. Am I getting close?


I moved to Saint Joe this past January. Before that I lived in a small town south of Saint Joe but still in buchanan county. I might have "moved" to a KC serveral years ago to get KC locals. I actually tried last year to change my service address back to my real address because with an out door antenna I could get all of the KC local HD stations but the Directv rep saw I would loose the KC locals from them and only changed the address in one location and not the other. I also already have the east and west DNS SD feeds(used to have HD as well but the took them away) from when I had waivers on file. Since I moved to Saint Joe this past January, I don't have an out door antenna so I want to keep the KC stations so I don't want to change anything.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 05:43 PM

I moved to Saint Joe this past January. Before that I lived in a small town south of Saint Joe but still in buchanan county. I might have "moved" to a KC serveral years ago to get KC locals. I actually tried last year to change my service address back to my real address because with an out door antenna I could get all of the KC local HD stations but the Directv rep saw I would loose the KC locals from them and only changed the address in one location and not the other. I also already have the east and west DNS SD feeds(used to have HD as well but the took them away) from when I had waivers on file. Since I moved to Saint Joe this past January, I don't have an out door antenna so I want to keep the KC stations so I don't want to change anything.

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I'm not judging. I have thought about it numerous times myself. I am missing FOX and CBS here but could fib about my address and get the Tulsa DMA which is what I want anyways but I dont. To each their own. I just take what the law and D* says I am supposed to have. I wont say that they make it easy to decide to keep doing the right thing. I live on Oklahoma but get my locals from Kansas and Missouri. Thats just wrong but I have to live with it. Supposedly the remaining locals will be added sometime this year. When that happens I have to decide if I want to keep paying $14 a month for SD DNS feeds. Im thinking add another DVR and then I will have all the tuners I need so I wont need the west coast stations anymore but I dont know. The DNS feeds are nice.

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