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103(ca) Signal Strength following an alignment


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#1 OFFLINE   Jschmuck2

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 03:49 PM

I had a tech out recently to re-align my dish, as the initial installer mounted it to part of the wall with only framing behind it and no stud to support the dish, so it gradually drifted out of sync. Whoops.

After the re-align, my signals on 103ca are

74 79 75 76 73 77 73 75
73 76 73 74 74 75 78 74

I'm in SoCal and I was reading that maybe the signal strength for this satellite is low in my part of the country...? What's the general consensus?

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#2 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 04:26 PM

I will let others in the area comment on the actual numbers but if you don't get rain, those numbers are good enough if they are solid.
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#3 OFFLINE   Jschmuck2

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 04:31 PM

Yeah, no rain here for quite some time ;)

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 04:36 PM

I'm getting:

85 89 88 91 83 88 87 92
83 89 86 92 86 88 92 95
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Posted 24 May 2010 - 04:42 PM

I'm in Central Valley CA and mine our

88 82 92 86 86 80 89 85
84 80 83 84 84 81 92 86

Looks like yours are a little low based on other posted signals but not much.

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 04:48 PM

70 is considered the minimum, I would personally want better, mine are:
98 95 98 97 97 95 98
96 97 96 97 96 95 99
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Posted 24 May 2010 - 05:23 PM

Those are a bit low. I have exactly 2 transponders across all of the conus sats that are below 90.

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 05:43 PM

Hrmph - well, that's not reassuring.

Like I said, when the dish was first installed on the side of my building, it was mounted in the frame of the building so that the dish was literally wobbling when the guy got up there to see what was what. By that point, the signals had degraded into the mid 50's.

I have a sinking feeling that these signals are doing the same thing, so what's the next step if the dish can't be properly mounted to the building? I can't put it on the roof, either. I do have a balcony but I'm not sure if I have the right angle.

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 06:38 PM

From reports here over the years, California signal levels at 103 have generally been lower than in other parts of the country. Even after alignment my levels are in the 70's and low 80's, with the occasional reading in the upper 60's. Regardless of the signal level strength, I've never had any real-world problems with reception.

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 10:12 PM

Well, after a week, things have degraded by 5-7 point across the board. Not good. The roof in my building has been under construction all week, so the hammering might have knocked the alignment out a whack a bit. Another tech visit in order?

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 10:55 PM

I'm in the 70's low 80's here in San Diego. on (ca). (cb) is about the same. When it does rain heavy, I get fade, but that's not often.
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Posted 31 May 2010 - 12:40 AM

Those are a bit low. I have exactly 2 transponders across all of the conus sats that are below 90.


I'm just down the road from you in the next town, wanna tweak mine for me?
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Posted 31 May 2010 - 11:17 AM

With the satellites at 22,300 miles up, the location in the country has very little to do with your signal levels. Angle to the sat could a little as more northern has a bit more atmosphere to go through.

And, the signal strength you see is not just the strength, but, includes the quality of the signal. Someone here has a better explanation. All of my values on 103ca are 92 or higher.
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Posted 31 May 2010 - 11:38 AM

No one has mentioned that the make of LNB and/or the dish model can also give different readings. Perhaps even the receiver sensitivity can make a difference in readings.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 12:19 PM

Remembering that the numbers represent signal quality rather than signal strength, I guess you might just get away with those. They feel low to me though.

I live on the East Coast and my numbers are:

97 95 98 94 96 93 98
96 97 94 97 96 95 98

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 12:31 PM

I had a tech out recently to re-align my dish, as the initial installer mounted it to part of the wall with only framing behind it and no stud to support the dish, so it gradually drifted out of sync. Whoops.

After the re-align, my signals on 103ca are

74 79 75 76 73 77 73 75
73 76 73 74 74 75 78 74

I'm in SoCal and I was reading that maybe the signal strength for this satellite is low in my part of the country...? What's the general consensus?


I just re-peaked the dish my self, last week. LA Area 103ca.

85 85 87 86 83 83 86 87
82 83 87 85 82 82 85 86

I was having issues with signal strength in the 70 to low 80.
I would say you have an issue if you are in the 70s even here in SoCal. You should be looking for 80+ on 103ca

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 12:34 PM

No one has mentioned that the make of LNB and/or the dish model can also give different readings. Perhaps even the receiver sensitivity can make a difference in readings.

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Different LNB types will also vary. I tried 3 lnb's (5, 3, 3 swm) all with different results. 3 swm had the highest

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 05:38 PM

Now some of my transponders are down in the high to mid 60s. I take it something is amiss?

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 08:00 PM

Something is definitely amiss. The dish is probably loose causing a misalignment. You need to have it aligned.
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Posted 01 June 2010 - 12:10 AM

Those are a bit low. I have exactly 2 transponders across all of the conus sats that are below 90.


You can't compare signal levels in NY with signal levels in Southern Cali or any other two widely separated locations for that matter. From what I understand... by design, the signal is stronger in areas that get lots of heavy rain, which would explain why the levels seem to be lower in so-cal.




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