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Why didn't they put a 1TB+ drive in the HR24?


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#41 OFFLINE   Sim-X

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 12:59 PM

I think they should have put a 1TB in standard but look how long it took them just to make a "decent" box. I don't even have one yet. The good news is that at least they let you use a bigger one if you wish. I got a 2TB drive & love it. I can record movie after movie and it hardly makes a dent.

I agree with you they should have put a 1 in but hey now you have a reason to buy buy a 2TB. I don't think I would have bought a 2TB if it came with a 1. Since I had to buy a new drive anyway I went with the biggest. I actually went with a 1.5 at first cause I got a deal on it, but the EARS drives suck for DVR's so I ended up just getting the best drive I could. The EVDS 2TB drive.

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#42 OFFLINE   employee3

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 01:14 PM

All this discussion about eSata being unsupported reminds me of a saying I once heard working in IT :

"I don't want their support, I want their "stuff" to work."

Use your imagination for the original quote.
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#43 OFFLINE   P Smith

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 01:31 PM

This sounds right although I'm unsure on specifics .. I think the theory is that single platter drives make less noise.


When it stop rotating. :D

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 06:18 PM

I'm very satisfied with the 2tb drive in my HR21-700. I like being in that 1%.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 06:33 PM

I'm very satisfied with the 2tb drive in my HR21-700. I like being in that 1%.


I suspect you mean .1% :)

And congrats. As prices are dropping, I might join that group too.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 06:46 PM

When I "buy" a car (cash or loan), I can do things like put in my own sound system.

When I "lease" a car, there are stipulations.

The same applies for DirecTV equipment. I can buy a unit and light it on fire if I want to, but if I am leasing.... its not mine to mess with. If I wanted to upgrade a drive in a DirecTV box, it would suit me to just purchase my own.

I decided that DirecTV's "whole home solution" (MRV) would be my best choice as I now have several terabytes of storage.
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Posted 28 May 2010 - 07:02 PM

1TB drives are only about $10-20 more than 500GB drives right now.

For $700 the OP can go to Weaknees and get an HR24 with a 2TB drive. 90 day warranty but then he is on his own.

This is the real reason. It isn't cost effective.

That $10-$20 cost, by the time you get to retail, is $50-100. That is a pretty typical consumer electronics markup for manufactured goods, and a number I'm not pulling out of my ass. :grin:

That's just to cover cost. The market really charges what it can, not what it costs. Weaknees has shown that 0.001% of the market - or whatever this undocumented number is - will pay $399 for a 1TB drive. It's just too expensive compared to adding a eSATA drive for that few people who'd use the extra space.

Having a special model makes even less sense. Before the run is over, DirecTV will produce hundreds of thousands of HR24s. A special model will reduce the run by a couple of orders of magnitude. DirecTV's costs go up with a shorter run. They simply couldn't charge enough to make any money on the deal.
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 07:10 AM

Why not give us the Option of buying an HR24-500 with either a 500 Gig or 1 TB Drive and let us pay for whatever we want so we don't have to go to the trouble of Upgrading the Hard Drive ourselves.


(edit) sorry did not realize that someone else already mentioned this.
You can, Weaknees http://www.weaknees....ectv-hd-dvr.php sells them with up to a 2TB drive. For the price they want though it is cheaper to upgrade it yourself.

Edited by andy A, 29 May 2010 - 06:20 PM.


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Posted 29 May 2010 - 08:46 AM

Wouldn't that cost you an extra $96 per year?


$3.00 per month x 12 month = $36.00

Unless I'm missing something?

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 09:18 AM

$3.00 per month x 12 month = $36.00

Unless I'm missing something?


You are. The cost of the extra receiver.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 09:47 AM

You are. The cost of the extra receiver.



Haha.....I work for the government, so I though there could some kind of fuzzy math going on!!!

Yep, missed the cost of the receiver!!!

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 11:18 AM

My options:

Time Warner = 160GB of MPEG2 ... not expandable. eek!
AT&T U-verse = 250GB of MPEG4 ... not expandable.
DirecTV = 500GB of MPEG4. Expandable.

After having Time Warner, having 500GB of MPEG4 storage on a DVR seems like an endless wasteland of capacity. We have two, and now with MRV I don't feel pinched for capacity at all. More storage would be nice, but I can see why DirecTV wouldn't feel that it's worth the added expense at this time.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 11:26 AM

My options:

Time Warner = 160GB of MPEG2 ... not expandable. eek!
AT&T U-verse = 250GB of MPEG4 ... not expandable.
DirecTV = 500GB of MPEG4. Expandable.

After having Time Warner, having 500GB of MPEG4 storage on a DVR seems like an endless wasteland of capacity. We have two, and now with MRV I don't feel pinched for capacity at all. More storage would be nice, but I can see why DirecTV wouldn't feel that it's worth the added expense at this time.


Not to nitpick, but...

DIRECTV = 400GB of MPEG4. Expandable.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 11:30 AM

And of course Dishnetwork where you can use as many USB external drives to move video off of the internal drive.
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 11:37 AM

Because you are in the vast minority (think <1%) who feel the need to go beyond the recording capacity of the HR24 with a 500GB drive.

Heard that same line with computer memory decades ago.

Believe me, you put it out there, it will be used.

Me, I rather have 'em figure out a way to daisy chain HDs.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 11:39 AM

Heard that same line with computer memory decades ago.

Believe me, you put it out there, it will be used.

Me, I rather have 'em figure out a way to daisy chain HDs.


Right, but it costs money to put it in there. Until a much greater percentage of users are demanding more capacity, there is no reason for DIRECTV to spend money to put a larger HDD in there.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 11:45 AM

Right, but it costs money to put it in there. Until a much greater percentage of users are demanding more capacity, there is no reason for DIRECTV to spend money to put a larger HDD in there.

The key is to be able swap out a larger HD as an option when ordering. This way way you satisfied the bargain hunters and the premium buyers.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 11:46 AM

The key is to be able swap out a larger HD as an option when ordering. This way way you satisfied the bargain hunters and the premium buyers.


Nope, that's an awful idea. Screws up the whole supply chain. As I said before, that creates more problems than it solves.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 12:19 PM

Nope, that's an awful idea. Screws up the whole supply chain. As I said before, that creates more problems than it solves.


I think I barely use 1% to 5% of my HR-22's Hard Drive.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 12:33 PM

....the rumored HMC-30....

Speaking of the HMC, is there any updates on this?




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