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#51 OFFLINE   Skyboss

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 09:50 PM

This is Bull$#!+

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#52 OFFLINE   mluntz

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 09:51 PM

Great deal for new subscribers.

Hope they attract lots of them! :)


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#53 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 09:53 PM

Would 50 cents (or whatever DirecTV pays per subscriber for an individual channel) mean much to any customer? Not really. But it would certainly show that DirecTV corporate wasn't talking out of its nether regions when it very publicly protested that as the reason for dropping said channel. It also wouldn't cost the company anything since, when the channel isn't carried, they're not paying that amount out anyway. It would gain a heck a lot of goodwill--and tons of good press (i.e. extremely valuable free advertising). So explain again, from a business standpoint, how that's a "horrible" idea?

And, by the way, even if I never leave DirecTV, I'm still entitled to have an opinion on their business practices. (You, of course, are entitled to mock and ignore me as well.) I wish it wasn't the case but, based on where I live (and, no, I'm not moving either just for TV), satellite is my only television option. I can't even just go OTA (which I actually might consider if possible), since we can't get reception here. Switching to Dish would result in a per month savings, but the upfront equipment costs/set-up to make it comparable to what we have now would take quite a bit of time and money.


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#54 OFFLINE   ndole

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 09:58 PM

Your sense of entitlement is well documented. We get it. Your contract will up soon enough.

Kind of what I was getting at. ;)
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Posted 03 June 2010 - 10:42 PM

I figure that I get good value for the fee paid, and if someone gets a better deal then great for them, but then again I'm not one to ever call to get a credit for anything just because someone else luckily got it.


This attitude is exactly the reason DirecTV can shaft its existing and loyal customers while sucking off every new customer they can. The New programming deals are only temporary, but unless they eleiminate the $10 HD fee altogether, this is a BIG deal.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 10:48 PM

They might both be doing it, but looks like Dish's offer is better. Two year contract, but current customers qualify, and the eligibility period is longer.

For Dish current customers, the Breakdown looks this

How do Existing Customers get HD Free for Life?
Does the customer subscribe to HD now?
• Yes - They subscribe to HD & Platinum
• This customer will automatically be enrolled in HD Free for Life, with no
additional requirements, and the HD Platinum package for $10 per month
resulting in no price change.

Bronze, Silver and Gold HD people may not be as happy though.

• Yes - They subscribe to BronzeHD, SilverHD, or GoldHD (yes they do exist!)
• This customer must go to www.dishnetwork.com and make a 24-month
commitment and sign up for AutoPay and Paperless billing.
• If the customer does not want to meet these requirements, they can go to
www.dishnetwork.com or call DISH Network and pay a one-time, $99
HD Upgrade fee.


For new users Dish is offering it for a 2yr commitment, Paperless billing and Autopay or the one time $99 and no autopay and no paperless billing.

For New customers only they are offering
•HD FREE for life
•$15 off per month-for 12 months
•Free upgrade to HD DVR
•3 months free HBO and Showtime
•3 HD receivers for free

As a current sub with HD and Platinum I am happy for once I get the deal and don't have to do anything.

Edited by GrumpyBear, 03 June 2010 - 11:11 PM.


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Posted 03 June 2010 - 10:51 PM

The HD fee makes wonder if these cable/satellite companies had been around during the B&W/Color transition if they would have charge a color fee?

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 11:06 PM

I'm guessing it will only take me one phone call to get this applied to my account.


let me guess, even free isnt good enough because the programing stations "distort" the HD image? LOL

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 11:19 PM

Well now DISH Network is eliminating it for all DISH network customers, current and new. But DirecTV is only going to eliminate it for new customers who sign up between 6/5-7/21.

I think that is a legitimate gripe.

I agree. DISH's plan does require paperless billing and a two year commitment (for new and existing customers who didn't modify their HD plan since last August). That is a "cost" that some people don't want to pay. But for customers who signed up since last August or who changed their HD plan to the "$10 gives you everything including the extra channel" plan introduced then DISH is offering a good deal. And new customers get a decent deal too.

DirecTV's "limited time offer" will cut into the impact of DISH's offer thanks to market confusion. Perhaps DirecTV will extend their offer beyond 7/21 and (hopefully) allow existing customers who have paid their dues to get in on it. Perhaps not.

There is a certain value in saying that the HD costs money because it is worth the money. But the challenge has been made. Does DirecTV want to compare $124.99 for Premier w/HD vs $99.99 for America's Everything Package? Or at the low end $68.99 for Choice vs $54.99 for AT200?

If DirecTV does not follow suit and drop their HD fee permanently they will have to find another way to market around the price difference.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 11:31 PM

let me guess, even free isnt good enough because the programing stations "distort" the HD image? LOL


If anything...Dish should be offering even steeper discounts for what they call HD.
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#61 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 11:32 PM

Nothing is free. Free HD now will just be compensated for elsewhere. Neither provider will lose any money over this...they'll just find a more creative way to apply the charge.
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:02 AM

Nothing is free. Free HD now will just be compensated for elsewhere. Neither provider will lose any money over this...they'll just find a more creative way to apply the charge.


i bet they raise the fee on HD PPV

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 12:55 AM

Neither provider will lose any money over this.


Yes they will lose $10/mo. for each qualified account. So far there is no other fee increases to offset such loss. But apparently both of them consider this a necessary evil in order to respond to cable's "no HD fee" slogan.

What the Dish subs should hope for is DirecTV starting to put in its ads everywhere that "there is only one DVR fee no matter how many DVRs do you have," then maybe Dish will follow.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 02:42 AM

I just sent an email to customer service requesting the same deal. I'm already doing auto pay Hope they come through . I mentioned Dish was also offering same deal with existing customers.

How can you request something that doesn't exist, and when it does it won't apply to existing customers? :scratchin

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 03:09 AM

What the Dish subs should hope for is DirecTV starting to put in its ads everywhere that "there is only one DVR fee no matter how many DVRs do you have," then maybe Dish will follow.

DISH already has only one DVR fee per account (since February). The caveat is they charge $3 more for an additional receiver that is a DVR than one that isn't but THAT isn't a DVR fee. :rolleyes:

"We don't charge extra for having more than one DVR" might work for DirecTV.

"Free HD for Life" would work for DirecTV as well.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 04:49 AM

How can you request something that doesn't exist, and when it does it won't apply to existing customers? :scratchin

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Easily. I sent a PDF file copy of the national offer going into effect tomorrow. How can you not ask for the deal of a lifetime is my question? :shrug::shrug::shrug:

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 05:18 AM

It is not the deal of a lifetime, so it is not that big of a deal.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 06:11 AM

Well, I usually just go with the flow on these things but as a 15+ year customer I have to admit I am a little taken back about this. Us early adapters made Directv what it is today. From paying $700 for my first receiver and dish that I self installed to being first with HD and paying $650 for an HD (non DVR) receiver that got 4 HD channels and of course missing out on all the free programming offers that accompany new subs today.

And what do we get, GAME LOUNGE FREE FOR 3 MONTHS. Come-on Directv, show us some love.:nono2:

Almost forgot. $999 for an HD Tivo now a door stop.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 06:20 AM

Yes they will lose $10/mo. for each qualified account. So far there is no other fee increases to offset such loss. But apparently both of them consider this a necessary evil in order to respond to cable's "no HD fee" slogan.

What the Dish subs should hope for is DirecTV starting to put in its ads everywhere that "there is only one DVR fee no matter how many DVRs do you have," then maybe Dish will follow.


Trust me...that $10 will be rolled in somewhere else at some point and those funds will be recovered. Comcast touts not charging extra for HD, but you had better believe that they are making up for it elsewhere.
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 06:52 AM

I think they should just allow the new subs within the last 60 days to get in on the free HD for life deal. Those that don't mind forking out that extra 10 this year maybe 15 next year can just keep paying for my freebie. :biggrin:

Not quite right is it. :nono2:

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 07:00 AM

Who watches sd broadcasts if they have the choice anymore? :lol:


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Posted 04 June 2010 - 07:14 AM

Well got a response and looks like the offer may be retracted or someones joke before it goes into effect.

"Thanks for writing. I see that you're one of our new customers and we welcome you to DIRECTV family.

I understand your concern about our programming service offers. Please be advised that we do not have any promotion offering free HD Access for life."

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 07:17 AM

I truly do not understand all the angst over this issue. Competition is a wonderful thing. How much hammering over this issue by Dish do you think DirecTV can take before having to respond in kind? Eventually both will be doing it while finding other neat ways to recoup the revenue. But at least everyone will be happy because their HD is "free".:lol:
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 07:22 AM

They might both be doing it, but looks like Dish's offer is better. Two year contract, but current customers qualify, and the eligibility period is longer.


I agree. I have a 1 yr free HD access anyway. But lifetime would be better. Sucks that current subs can't take advantage.

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 07:25 AM

Easily. I sent a PDF file copy of the national offer going into effect tomorrow. How can you not ask for the deal of a lifetime is my question? :shrug::shrug::shrug:

I didn't realize you were a new customer. :rolleyes:

"This is a limited time offer available for new customers."


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