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#26 OFFLINE   BNUMM

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 04:50 PM

Let me know how it turns out. I will tell others with FTA to check out your channel.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 07:40 PM

RestRefuge,


I would guess someone in your organization would have had a system setup to monitor this.
I scanned 97.
Found 1 name Glorystar OTA 11842,H,22000,3/4

NO Audio or Video.

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 11:26 PM

This whole concept, from what I can tell, is really all about "how do we get His message out?"

If I were to get His message out in 2010, I would look at means that reached groups of peoples I felt called to serve or reach.

The FTA market is not a large segment as things go these days. It is expensive for the end user. It is not a growing technology; rather it is shrinking. It is not portable. It is also crowded for such a small segment of the market. I would avoid it unless there was a compelling niche of identified people who already have FTA systems. And you had a way to let them know about the new channel.

These days a far better approach in my mind are the internet technologies. Much lower startup costs; billions of listeners available; ubiquitous technology for listeners everywhere; and extremely low cost to your potential audience. They already most likely have all it takes to listen. :)

My sister and brother-in-law have done just that. They started a Christian internet radio station in France with the goal of growing to the point of having a real FM allocation there. The internet allowed them to get started, attract listeners, then attract donors based on the listeners; now to get the government approval.

Good luck to you. If you can find several large donors, this could work. Though I question the effectiveness of using this technology. Why release on old fashioned wax cylinders when the whole world has moved to podcasts? :)

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:18 PM

Though I question the effectiveness of using this technology. Why release on old fashioned wax cylinders when the whole world has moved to podcasts? :)


That was my point exactly. The goal should be to make it as easy as possible FOR THE LISTENER to get your programming. FTA satellite audio is FAR down the list of potential methods, while Internet options (live streaming, recorded downloads/podcasts) are much more widely available, much easier for the listeners, and much more in-tune with the lifestyles of the 40-and-younger set.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 08:34 PM

Greetings to All,

I have not posted for a while (things have been going rather fast) but do want to continue this conversation.

We have decided to try to make FTA work for us. If GloryStar and RRsat will work with us we are willing to continue working with them. They have both been very kind and most accommodating thus far and we desire a successful present and future business association.

Secondly, there is a great desire to make FTA work in this ministerial configuration. Thus, we are moving in faith and action. We are praying that God will indeed bless this endeavor. There is a sense among some Christians that this is indeed a critical time for Planet Earth. If additional catastrophic events occurred this year we would not be surprised. (There is a strong sense that God may be tiring of our sins [the sins of some of the inhabitants of Planet Earth]). Thus we must get the gospel out in every possible way. (A day or so before the catastrophe in Haiti I had been moved to preach [via satellite] a sermon stressing the urgency of repentance {even asking, "How do you know how long you have to live?"}]). So, even though we have not received responses from listeners of our Light To Guide Our Feet satellite broadcast, we cannot guarantee that no one in Haiti heard that sermon (since Galaxy 19 covers the Caribbean). It is very possible that someone that was killed in the Haiti catastrophe indeed heard that sermon and is now in Heaven because of that message. This (helping people avoid eternal destruction and suffering [after life on Planet Earth]) is the very essence of the importance of the Light To Guide Our Feet satellite ministry.
There is just a sense that we must remain on satellite. So, we move forward in faith.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 08:41 PM

Before anyone responds ... a reminder that we don't get into religion in our forums.
So we'll leave the religious views "as stated" and not open to debate here.

DBSTalk does not have a religious view point ... so the ending of religious discussion is not an endorsement or rebuke of the views expressed. Just an ending.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 09:30 PM

RestRefuge,


I would guess someone in your organization would have had a system setup to monitor this.
I scanned 97.
Found 1 name Glorystar OTA 11842,H,22000,3/4

NO Audio or Video.


Dear timekeeper,

You have done us a great service!!! If others would take the time to do as you have done (and report to us) that would be extremely helpful.

I have confidence in both Glorystar and RRsat. That said, I will now launch an intensive investigation to ascertain who has heard us, who is hearing us, and where, etc. Actually, that (finding out whether or not our signal was actually getting out) was my real reason for coming to post on this board. You have responded in exactly the manner I had hoped. Thanks a million!!!

That said, I am a person who likes to fix things. If FTA is broken and needs to be repaired, I am interested in finding out what is broken and working to effect repair. Wasted potential bothers me (and FTA has great potential) and (if what I am reading here is accurate) much of that potential is being wasted.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 09:46 PM

This whole concept, from what I can tell, is really all about "how do we get His message out?"

If I were to get His message out in 2010, I would look at means that reached groups of peoples I felt called to serve or reach.

The FTA market is not a large segment as things go these days. It is expensive for the end user. It is not a growing technology; rather it is shrinking. It is not portable. It is also crowded for such a small segment of the market. I would avoid it unless there was a compelling niche of identified people who already have FTA systems. And you had a way to let them know about the new channel.

These days a far better approach in my mind are the internet technologies. Much lower startup costs; billions of listeners available; ubiquitous technology for listeners everywhere; and extremely low cost to your potential audience. They already most likely have all it takes to listen. :)

My sister and brother-in-law have done just that. They started a Christian internet radio station in France with the goal of growing to the point of having a real FM allocation there. The internet allowed them to get started, attract listeners, then attract donors based on the listeners; now to get the government approval.

Good luck to you. If you can find several large donors, this could work. Though I question the effectiveness of using this technology. Why release on old fashioned wax cylinders when the whole world has moved to podcasts? :)

Peace,
Tom



Dear Tom,

Your information is very logical and very intelligent. I find it very helpful.

Though I know it is (or certainly appears [at this point]) to be a mountain climbing exercise, something in me just won't let me lose faith in the possibilities of FTAs.

Somehow I am taking on this very difficult task (that of making FTA work) with a zeal that is almost unexplainable (due to the apparent lack of logic [as discussed on this board]). I ask the help of everyone who has the capability to access Galaxy 19. My question is this: Is the signal of Light To Guide Our Feet getting out on Galaxy 19 at 97 degrees West?

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 09:49 PM

That was my point exactly. The goal should be to make it as easy as possible FOR THE LISTENER to get your programming. FTA satellite audio is FAR down the list of potential methods, while Internet options (live streaming, recorded downloads/podcasts) are much more widely available, much easier for the listeners, and much more in-tune with the lifestyles of the 40-and-younger set.



Dear BattleZone,

Thanks for the past and present conversations.

How can we make sure that the signal of Light To Guide Our Feet is actually getting out on Galaxy 19 at 97 degrees West?

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 09:56 PM

Dear BattleZone,

Thanks for the past and present conversations.

How can we make sure that the signal of Light To Guide Our Feet is actually getting out on Galaxy 19 at 97 degrees West?


Post the frequency, polarity, and symbol rate, and the APID, and we can scan it, and tell you if its getting out.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 10:02 PM

Post the frequency, polarity, and symbol rate, and the APID, and we can scan it, and tell you if its getting out.

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Galaxy 19, 97 degrees West, Transponder 12060 (Ku band) , Symbol Rate 22,000, FEC 3/4.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 10:11 PM

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12060 H 22000 APID 3029

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36" Offset dish: Signal 79% Quality 60%

Audio: Sounds good.
Subject reading scripture from Romans.

Scans in as "Light to Guide our F" on my Pansat 9200HD

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 01:53 AM

Dear Davenlr,

Your kindness in this matter is truly truly appreciated.

You are now a part of the history of Light To Guide Our Feet because you are the first person not affiliated with the companies putting us on to verify that our signal is truly getting out. There are other reasons (some that I cannot express here) that make your verification extremely important.

For almost six months now we have been seeking verification and you are the first to provide that verification.

In order to not be a hypocrit, I must state that I actually have a Glorystar dish but do not have it properly tuned. The young man that installed it made a mistake in the installation and I have not taken the time to correct it. That said, I am more interested in receiving verifications from other locations than from my home location. (I want to know the areas "out there" that we are reaching [including which countries]). That is why your verification is so important.

The primary reason I posted on this board was to find out whether anyone "out there" was receiving us. You have indicated that at least one person "out there" (meaning away from my home) is receiving us. That, as far as I am concerned, is great progress.

Thank you so very very much!!!

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 01:57 AM

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Dear Mr. Long,

Thank you very much.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:38 AM

"...The primary reason I posted on this board was to find out whether anyone "out there" was receiving us. You have indicated that at least one person "out there" (meaning away from my home) is receiving us. That, as far as I am concerned, is great progress."

Not to burst your bubble, but having only one signal verification after weeks and weeks of repeated solicitations on this board does not, in my opinion, constitute "great progress" unless you, by the Lord's arithmetic, consider going from zero to one a seven-fold increase.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:23 AM

I have informed a friend who installs FTA and I know that he will pass this on to others. He was going to check his FTA setup but has not informed me of the results. I need to install a new dish for FTA otherwise I would check it.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 05:07 PM

Not to burst your bubble, but having only one signal verification after weeks and weeks of repeated solicitations on this board does not, in my opinion, constitute "great progress" unless you, by the Lord's arithmetic, consider going from zero to one a seven-fold increase.



Nick,

I understand your point. Thanks.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 05:08 PM

I have informed a friend who installs FTA and I know that he will pass this on to others. He was going to check his FTA setup but has not informed me of the results. I need to install a new dish for FTA otherwise I would check it.



BNUMM,

The assistance is truly appreciated.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:38 PM

I talked to my friend and he said he rescanned his receiver. He now has the channel on his receiver

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 02:28 AM

I talked to my friend and he said he rescanned his receiver. He now has the channel on his receiver



Dear BNUMM,

That is great!!! Thank you so very much.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 03:15 AM

Where else on the Internet do FTA people congregate and communicate?

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 01:27 PM

RestRefuge

I have read your posts here and I am surprised that until today you haven't got your FTA system up and running :confused: You really need to get it working so you can verify your own station. That is the 1st order of business. Your website should promote the FTA systems and "how to install" it.

I would suggest you start a new thread for members here to verify TP signal for your station at their locations. This will at least give you an idea of the coverage.

Like many already mentioned, promoting your station is very important. You can do it on your website, in print, and by participating in several related forums and religious events.

The airwaves are full of religious stations. Your message will need to capture the audience. What unique programming / message are you using? Do you have talk shows, news, lectures, sermons, etc.

Having your station on FTA will reach many areas where your station is not carried by local cable companies or pay satellite service. However, as mentioned earlier, FTA is a niche market here in the USA. I would add internet streaming to help reach your audience. Then do a survey to gauge the the best method to reach your audience.

Having a video feed will help promote your audio feed.

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