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#26 OFFLINE   GrumpyBear

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 02:44 PM

To be fair, I think it was only singular "announcer" instead of plural "announcers". That is the color guy Ekoku. I don't recall PBP guy Martin Tyler whine about it like Ekoku. But Tyler didn't clear up that simple matter either. Maybe he thought it was beneath him to insult Ekoku, educating him on live TV. I wouldn't have thought so if he did that. In my opinion, it would've been professional of Tyler to clear up the matter immediately. Maybe his apparent silence on the issue can count as "whining".

Anyway, that's as much I'll say about that topic.

No on UniVision the announcers were Whining, about the call, so I switched back to ESPN. Ekoku several times during the match brought up the taken away goal for Mexico, but it wasn't his whining, I was talking about, it was the whining on UniVision that made me switch back to ESPN.

I could "understand" Univision announcers, as the passion of the game catching up with thier team.
ESPN just needs to hire some REAL announcers, they didn't have the right people last time, and they still don't. Just because somebody has an english accent, doesn't mean he knows what he is talking about.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 02:48 PM

No on UniVision the announcers were Whining, about the call, so I switched back to ESPN. Ekoku several times during the match brought up the taken away goal for Mexico, but it wasn't his whining, I was talking about, it was the whining on UniVision that made me switch back to ESPN.


Oh OK, got you. Sorry for misunderstanding the other way round.

In that case, I'm hardly surprised. Univision guys are paid to be homers for Mexico. And if Mexico are eliminated, then Brasil or Argentina.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 02:50 PM

Is Brasil not as great as past years? I remember being in aw of Ronaldo, Danielson, etc.
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Posted 11 June 2010 - 03:05 PM

Is Brasil not as great as past years? I remember being in aw of Ronaldo, Danielson, etc.

I think he was referring, to how the UniVision annoucers, would change how thier Fanboy bias may come out in order, of Mexico, Brasil, then Argentina.
Not which teams are better.
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Posted 11 June 2010 - 03:10 PM

Hahahaha, Thierry Henry claiming non-called handball on the Uruguayan defender in the box late in the match?!?!?!?! (Soon after my mention of non-called German handball call against USA by Hugh Dallas in 2002 quarter final.)

Is that poetic justice for Henry?!?!?!?! I would think so. France don't deserve to be there in the first place. It should've been the Republic of Ireland playing there in their place. What goes around comes around. I hope France have a repeat of their pathetic showing in 2002, and not like being 2006 runners-up.


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Posted 11 June 2010 - 03:11 PM

Is Brasil not as great as past years? I remember being in aw of Ronaldo, Danielson, etc.


For me, Kaka is way up there in quality, absolutely top notch. I remember him single-handedly burning American midfield and defenders in the Confed Cup final 2nd half last year. It was like watching a knife go through butter through the left side of the pitch. Man, did it hurt to see that!!!!! But it was some absolutely beautiful football, 24K quality. The American defenders/midfielders were huffing and puffing. They didn't know what hit them. To be fair to them, after being unexpectedly 2-0 up at halftime, they were complacent and tired. I suppose that's as far as their player depth could take them. Good on them for that. Those 45 mins showed the difference between a world class team like Brasil, and a reasonably solid team like USA.

Of course, I'm not drawing everything about Brasil based on that single match alone. There has been tougher quality opposition for Brasil than USA. I'm just giving that match as a singular example of world class of players like Kaka.

BTW Denilson was always more hype than actual substance. He could never walk his (or his admirers') talk.

Ronaldo "of the fat variety" was superb quality back when he played for Barcelona and PSV Eindhoven. I know he had a break-out 2002 World Cup. But that was around the time he started going mentally weird (with the embarrassing haircut) and becoming fatter. Or maybe since his bizarre non-show in the 1998 final against France. Some people believed Nike conducted psychological manipulation experiments on him just before that match kicked off.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 03:18 PM

I hope France dosent make it out of this round


RSA and Uraguay making it out of Group A, would be FANTASTIC. I even have it in my bracket that way.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 03:25 PM

I think he was referring, to how the UniVision annoucers, would change how thier Fanboy bias may come out in order, of Mexico, Brasil, then Argentina.
Not which teams are better.
:D:lol::D


:lol: I know that. I was just asking about Brazil's team.
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Posted 11 June 2010 - 03:31 PM

Go Nigeria!!! Argentina is going down tomorrow


Is Tevez a starter for Argentina tomorrow, alongside Messi? What an embarrassment of riches Argentina have! Diego Milito (superstar of Champions League final for Inter Milan few weeks ago) isn't available because he is injured. On paper, it hardly matters for a team as deep as Argentina.

But as their schizophrenic qualification process showed, they also have an idiot for a manager in Maradona. Given that this will be Nigeria's first World Cup match on African soil, anything is possible.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 03:31 PM

For me, Kaka is way up their in quality, absolutely top notch. I can remember him single-handedly burning American midfield and defenders in the Confed Cup final 2nd half last year. It was like watching a knife go through butter through the left side of the pitch. Man, did it hurt to see that!!!!! But it was some absolutely beautiful football, 24K quality. The American defenders/midfielders were huffing and puffing. They didn't know what hit them. To be fair to them, after being unexpectedly 2-0 up at halftime, they were complacent and tired. I suppose that's as far as their player depth could take them. Good on them for that. Those 45 mins showed the difference between a world class team like Brasil, and a reasonably solid team like USA.

Of course, I'm not drawing everything about Brasil based on that single match alone. There has been tougher quality opposition for Brasil than USA. I'm just giving that match as a singular example of world class of players like Kaka.

BTW Denilson was always more hype than actual substance. He could never walk his (or his admirers') talk.

Ronaldo "of the fat variety" was superb quality back when he played for Barcelona and PSV Eindhoven. I know he had a break-out 2002 World Cup. But that was around the time he started going mentally weird (with the embarrassing haircut) and becoming fatter. Or maybe since his bizarre non-show in the 1998 final against France. Some people believed Nike conducted psychological manipulation experiments on him just before that match kicked off.


I was reading about what Ronaldinho was up to these days, trying to see if he made the team (I'm not a footy expert like you guys). I saw this:

Critics have claimed that the exclusion of players such as Ronaldinho, Pato, Adriano and Ronaldo signals a move away from the classic Brazilian attacking "Joga Bonito" style of play.

Too bad, they were fun to watch.
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Posted 11 June 2010 - 03:36 PM

Critics have claimed that the exclusion of players such as Ronaldinho, Pato, Adriano and Ronaldo signals a move away from the classic Brazilian attacking "Joga Bonito" style of play.

Too bad, they were fun to watch.


Yeah. I don't see Rivaldo's name in that list. He was wonderfully talented as well. Except that I lost all respect for him after his pathetic diving and cheating against Turkey in 2002 World Cup.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 04:18 PM

RSA and Uraguay making it out of Group A, would be FANTASTIC. I even have it in my bracket that way.


Who do you have winning it?

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 06:18 PM

Who do you have winning it?


I have Germany winning it all.
Has as much to do with family and tradition than anything else.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 06:48 PM

I have Germany winning it all.
Has as much to do with family and tradition than anything else.


Good man! :goodjob:
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Posted 11 June 2010 - 07:16 PM

Good man! :goodjob:

My daughter wore her Germany jersey to school today. Backlash from some students, and friendly harrassement from English, History teacher.

Heading to a Arena Soccer game here in about 20 minutes. Normally I wear a big Yellow jersey with a Red bullseye on it in goal. Tonight I am wearing MY Germany Jersey.

We could almost start a thread, what world soccer and Rugby teams do you follow and why.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 07:26 PM

My daughter wore her Germany jersey to school today. Backlash from some students, and friendly harrassement from English, History teacher.

Heading to a Arena Soccer game here in about 20 minutes. Normally I wear a big Yellow jersey with a Red bullseye on it in goal. Tonight I am wearing MY Germany Jersey.

We could almost start a thread, what world soccer and Rugby teams do you follow and why.


The number 1 question my friends would ask when they saw my Germany gear...Was your family Nazis? :rolleyes: Their tone changes when I tell them how my Great Grandfather, who's German, luckily survived imprisonment in a concentration camp for speaking out about Hitler.
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Posted 11 June 2010 - 08:30 PM

I just don't get how anyone making their living and/or supporting their family in the USA can cheer for anyone other than the Americans. Fact is, we ALL came from somewhere else (actually, if you want to get technical, we all came from Africa). Just my two cents. GO USA!!!


I completely agree with you!!!

It's incomprehensible to me how any American citizen (assuming they're not a dual citizen) could possibly support another nation's national team WHILE our own team is involved in the same competition! If a competition doesn't involve USA at all, or if the American team is knocked out, it's perfectly understandable rooting for another nation's team.

I honestly don't feel our line of thinking is being jingoistic at all. It's basic support for your nation's team. A Serb should get behind Serbian national team, an Australian should support Australian team, an American should support American team, an Indian national should support India's team, a German should support German national team and so on... Blind nationalism and creating hatred towards other nationalities is bad. Supporting your national team should be natural. (With the basic assumption that the person representing your nation is not some scumbag/criminal - which is certainly not the case with our US team.)

Donovan, Dempsey, Howard and company must cringe if for all blood/sweat/tears they expend representing their nation, they know there are American citizens rooting for other nations. Yes, I literally mean blood. (Cue brutal elbow on Brian McBride by Italian De Rossi in 2006 World Cup. Or McBride's swollen eye in Columbus, Ohio in World Cup qualifier against Mexico for 2006.) World Cup qualification process is arduous and long (going over 3 years). These boys have to go through intense hell in crazy locations in Central American countries in bad weather/polluted air. They are spat upon, have bags of urine, debris thrown at them going in/out of the tunnel before/after matches. They are given hell when American national anthem plays in those away venues in other countries. (Chants of Osama, Osama, Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda etc.)

For a player (doesn't matter which nationality), pulling on their nation's shirt at the top level, listening to their national anthem before the match, these should be great matters of pride. Those are privileges and shouldn't be taken lightly or for granted.

Now don't get me wrong. Obviously, I'm a realist. I'm under no illusion that our nation's team is the most skilled or aesthetically most enjoyable to watch, or they could even become the champions. That's not the point. The point is, support the boys representing our nation for all the hard work they're putting in. That's not too much to ask.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 10:18 PM

I root for the USA in every game, yet I have Germany winning it all, and just as Proudly pulling for Germany, I am only 3rd generation from germany,on Mom's side, and 3rd Generation Scot from Dad's side.
Tomorrow I am hosting a England vs USA party. Everybody in the room will be rooting for the USA, just about everybody will have a different nations flag, except for one person. We will have French, German, Italian(he doesn't get ribs) and a few others. Every last one of us are Very Proud American's who discoverd soccer, by watching the sport or experiencing the sport via other Nations playing. In my Front yard you will see my USA flag flying high, with my Marine Corp flag right below it. They are lit up 24/7 as I hate the thought of even bringing them down.

When it comes to bleeding and sweating, for ones country, hats off to the players, for playing a GAME hard and taking a pounding. I truely feel though, I have sweated and Bleed for my country enough to allow me the free speech and the overall freedom to root for any Futball team I wish.
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Sorry, USA soccer is great, but there is ABSOLUTLY NOTHING wrong for pulling for a Sports team from any country you want as well. Its only a GAME.
I don't need anybody even inferring that its unamerican to root for a SPORTS TEAM, from anywere you want.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 11:47 PM

I root for the USA in every game, yet I have Germany winning it all, and just as Proudly pulling for Germany, I am only 3rd generation from germany,on Mom's side, and 3rd Generation Scot from Dad's side.
Tomorrow I am hosting a England vs USA party. Everybody in the room will be rooting for the USA, just about everybody will have a different nations flag, except for one person. We will have French, German, Italian(he doesn't get ribs) and a few others. Every last one of us are Very Proud American's who discoverd soccer, by watching the sport or experiencing the sport via other Nations playing. In my Front yard you will see my USA flag flying high, with my Marine Corp flag right below it. They are lit up 24/7 as I hate the thought of even bringing them down.

When it comes to bleeding and sweating, for ones country, hats off to the players, for playing a GAME hard and taking a pounding. I truely feel though, I have sweated and Bleed for my country enough to allow me the free speech and the overall freedom to root for any Futball team I wish.
Navy and Marine Corps medal,
Bronze Star(V),
Navy & Marine Corps Commendation Medal,
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Combat Action Ribbon,
Navy Presidential Unit Citation,
Marine Corps Good Conduct Meda(2),
Marine Corps Expeditionary Medal,
Navy Sea Service Deployment Ribbon(overseas ribbon)
I copied those directly from my DD214 thats kept on file with the State of WA.
Wore my Gold Wings and Scuba bubble Proudly for 3yrs out of 8yrs as well.

Sorry, USA soccer is great, but there is ABSOLUTLY NOTHING wrong for pulling for a Sports team from any country you want as well. Its only a GAME.
I don't need anybody even inferring that its unamerican to root for a SPORTS TEAM, from anywere you want.

I agree with your sentiment. And I must admit I'm impressed - two Marine Corps Good Conduct Medals! Oh, and the V also.;)

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 11:59 PM

I agree with your sentiment. And I must admit I'm impressed - two Marine Corps Good Conduct Medals! Oh, and the V also.;)


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I get a little peeved sometimes, by posts or people who get to wrapped up with the if you aren't with us, your against us attitude. I not saying the 2 posts in question were meant that way, its just the way they came across. Sorry this is a Futbal game.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 07:53 AM

First, thank you Grumpy and others who served.

Second, it's not like fans like Grumpy and I are rooting against USA while pulling for Germany. We're proud Americans, but also have pride in our family ties. Also, this is sports...not war. We're not pulling for Germany to have global domination here, just footy domination. ;)
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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:24 PM

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I have Germany winning it all.
Has as much to do with family and tradition than anything else.



Germany is off with a good start

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:32 PM

Germany is off with a good start


They better keep it up. ;)
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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:33 PM

At least it wasnt another draw

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:52 PM

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