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#41 OFFLINE   sigma1914

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 07:26 PM

My daughter wore her Germany jersey to school today. Backlash from some students, and friendly harrassement from English, History teacher.

Heading to a Arena Soccer game here in about 20 minutes. Normally I wear a big Yellow jersey with a Red bullseye on it in goal. Tonight I am wearing MY Germany Jersey.

We could almost start a thread, what world soccer and Rugby teams do you follow and why.


The number 1 question my friends would ask when they saw my Germany gear...Was your family Nazis? :rolleyes: Their tone changes when I tell them how my Great Grandfather, who's German, luckily survived imprisonment in a concentration camp for speaking out about Hitler.
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#42 OFFLINE   Chandu

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 08:30 PM

I just don't get how anyone making their living and/or supporting their family in the USA can cheer for anyone other than the Americans. Fact is, we ALL came from somewhere else (actually, if you want to get technical, we all came from Africa). Just my two cents. GO USA!!!


I completely agree with you!!!

It's incomprehensible to me how any American citizen (assuming they're not a dual citizen) could possibly support another nation's national team WHILE our own team is involved in the same competition! If a competition doesn't involve USA at all, or if the American team is knocked out, it's perfectly understandable rooting for another nation's team.

I honestly don't feel our line of thinking is being jingoistic at all. It's basic support for your nation's team. A Serb should get behind Serbian national team, an Australian should support Australian team, an American should support American team, an Indian national should support India's team, a German should support German national team and so on... Blind nationalism and creating hatred towards other nationalities is bad. Supporting your national team should be natural. (With the basic assumption that the person representing your nation is not some scumbag/criminal - which is certainly not the case with our US team.)

Donovan, Dempsey, Howard and company must cringe if for all blood/sweat/tears they expend representing their nation, they know there are American citizens rooting for other nations. Yes, I literally mean blood. (Cue brutal elbow on Brian McBride by Italian De Rossi in 2006 World Cup. Or McBride's swollen eye in Columbus, Ohio in World Cup qualifier against Mexico for 2006.) World Cup qualification process is arduous and long (going over 3 years). These boys have to go through intense hell in crazy locations in Central American countries in bad weather/polluted air. They are spat upon, have bags of urine, debris thrown at them going in/out of the tunnel before/after matches. They are given hell when American national anthem plays in those away venues in other countries. (Chants of Osama, Osama, Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda etc.)

For a player (doesn't matter which nationality), pulling on their nation's shirt at the top level, listening to their national anthem before the match, these should be great matters of pride. Those are privileges and shouldn't be taken lightly or for granted.

Now don't get me wrong. Obviously, I'm a realist. I'm under no illusion that our nation's team is the most skilled or aesthetically most enjoyable to watch, or they could even become the champions. That's not the point. The point is, support the boys representing our nation for all the hard work they're putting in. That's not too much to ask.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 10:18 PM

I root for the USA in every game, yet I have Germany winning it all, and just as Proudly pulling for Germany, I am only 3rd generation from germany,on Mom's side, and 3rd Generation Scot from Dad's side.
Tomorrow I am hosting a England vs USA party. Everybody in the room will be rooting for the USA, just about everybody will have a different nations flag, except for one person. We will have French, German, Italian(he doesn't get ribs) and a few others. Every last one of us are Very Proud American's who discoverd soccer, by watching the sport or experiencing the sport via other Nations playing. In my Front yard you will see my USA flag flying high, with my Marine Corp flag right below it. They are lit up 24/7 as I hate the thought of even bringing them down.

When it comes to bleeding and sweating, for ones country, hats off to the players, for playing a GAME hard and taking a pounding. I truely feel though, I have sweated and Bleed for my country enough to allow me the free speech and the overall freedom to root for any Futball team I wish.
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Sorry, USA soccer is great, but there is ABSOLUTLY NOTHING wrong for pulling for a Sports team from any country you want as well. Its only a GAME.
I don't need anybody even inferring that its unamerican to root for a SPORTS TEAM, from anywere you want.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 11:47 PM

I root for the USA in every game, yet I have Germany winning it all, and just as Proudly pulling for Germany, I am only 3rd generation from germany,on Mom's side, and 3rd Generation Scot from Dad's side.
Tomorrow I am hosting a England vs USA party. Everybody in the room will be rooting for the USA, just about everybody will have a different nations flag, except for one person. We will have French, German, Italian(he doesn't get ribs) and a few others. Every last one of us are Very Proud American's who discoverd soccer, by watching the sport or experiencing the sport via other Nations playing. In my Front yard you will see my USA flag flying high, with my Marine Corp flag right below it. They are lit up 24/7 as I hate the thought of even bringing them down.

When it comes to bleeding and sweating, for ones country, hats off to the players, for playing a GAME hard and taking a pounding. I truely feel though, I have sweated and Bleed for my country enough to allow me the free speech and the overall freedom to root for any Futball team I wish.
Navy and Marine Corps medal,
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Combat Action Ribbon,
Navy Presidential Unit Citation,
Marine Corps Good Conduct Meda(2),
Marine Corps Expeditionary Medal,
Navy Sea Service Deployment Ribbon(overseas ribbon)
I copied those directly from my DD214 thats kept on file with the State of WA.
Wore my Gold Wings and Scuba bubble Proudly for 3yrs out of 8yrs as well.

Sorry, USA soccer is great, but there is ABSOLUTLY NOTHING wrong for pulling for a Sports team from any country you want as well. Its only a GAME.
I don't need anybody even inferring that its unamerican to root for a SPORTS TEAM, from anywere you want.

I agree with your sentiment. And I must admit I'm impressed - two Marine Corps Good Conduct Medals! Oh, and the V also.;)

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 11:59 PM

I agree with your sentiment. And I must admit I'm impressed - two Marine Corps Good Conduct Medals! Oh, and the V also.;)


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I get a little peeved sometimes, by posts or people who get to wrapped up with the if you aren't with us, your against us attitude. I not saying the 2 posts in question were meant that way, its just the way they came across. Sorry this is a Futbal game.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 07:53 AM

First, thank you Grumpy and others who served.

Second, it's not like fans like Grumpy and I are rooting against USA while pulling for Germany. We're proud Americans, but also have pride in our family ties. Also, this is sports...not war. We're not pulling for Germany to have global domination here, just footy domination. ;)
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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:24 PM

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I have Germany winning it all.
Has as much to do with family and tradition than anything else.



Germany is off with a good start

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:32 PM

Germany is off with a good start


They better keep it up. ;)
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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:33 PM

At least it wasnt another draw

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:52 PM

I tried watching a game them remembered I had to go watch some recently painted patio furniture dry.

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:57 PM

I was in an out of the house but I got to see most of it

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 07:18 PM

Germany is off with a good start

Germany gave a Australia a good old fashioned whooping
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 03:01 AM

I get a little peeved sometimes, by posts or people who get to wrapped up with the if you aren't with us, your against us attitude. I not saying the 2 posts in question were meant that way, its just the way they came across.


Grumpy, first of all thanks much for serving our nation proudly man!! Yes, you're right; my post wasn't meant that way. In fact I wasn't specifically addressing you at all. I was replying to whitey's point AND talking about a number of people I've met in person who root for other countries but intentionally pretend as if the US team doesn't even exist.

Having said that: I only earnestly hope you (or any other US citizen similar to you) doesn't actively root for USA to lose, in the hypothetical case that USA plays against whatever team you've adopted.

I tried watching a game them remembered I had to go watch some recently painted patio furniture dry.


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks much for that information! Posted Image I made a note of it right here in my little black notebook.

Go USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beat England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Not quite a victory, but will take it. As I had said before, a goal is a goal is a goal. An ugly goal counts as much as the most beautifully created goal. I feel lots of sympathy for poor Rob Green, but we should be on our way with this result.

Also, Park Ji Sung is fantastic! After USA, I'll be rooting for South Korea. Germany looked superb, but Australia were hardly a worthy opponent. In the last 4 years, comparing USA and Australia they seemed to have progressed and regressed respectively around equally. I don't think the A-League has been helping Australian national team much at all, as much as MLS has helped USA.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 03:12 AM

BAN THE VUVUZELAS!!!!


Also, may the vuvuzelas just get banned in mid-tournament (as I've been hoping) or this guy starting article with crap information:


http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Vuvuzelas-might-yet-be-banned-from-World-Cup?urn=sow,247947


And a vuvuzela documentary:


http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/video/ssworldcup-19013964/what-is-that-buzz-at-the-world-cup-20287329


Gosh, I hate those things.

BAN THE VUVUZELAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 06:17 AM

Denmark 0 Netherlands 0 at the half

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 12:04 PM

BAN THE VUVUZELAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I hope those stupid things get banned. I have been watching the games muted. It is unbearable.

I can't imagine what it must be to play with that sound always on.
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 12:09 PM

Do they blow those horns during regular matches or just for the world cup? I only watch soccer once every 4 years

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 02:50 PM

Italy was lucky to come out with a point

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 03:57 PM

Do they blow those horns during regular matches or just for the world cup? I only watch soccer once every 4 years

They have used them for awhile. South Africa, just made them really popular within thier culture. Personally the don't effect me any more than all the whistles and horns you hear in just about any other game.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 04:33 PM

I'm boycotting the TV. I had planned to watch, but the horns make it unwatchable.

I have 2 brothers, one of whom plays soccer weekly, who are also boycotting.

BAN THE VUVUZELAS!!!!

(These things have zip to do with SA history)

Edited by wilbur_the_goose, 14 June 2010 - 04:39 PM.





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