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DIRECTV Satellite Discussion D-14 @99W


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#451 OFFLINE   skaman74

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:31 PM

Everything known, speculated and thought to be known about Directv 14 (and all future sats, plus anything that changes with current sats), is usually talked about here:

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=179580

There's a lot of material here, but it's a good thread to subscribe to. Those of us who update it tend to pay absurdly close attention to things like FCC filings, Directv financial reports and ITU regulatory rulings. :grin:


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#452 OFFLINE   Renard

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:36 PM

It will probably be in the 103 degrees position so no new equipment will be necessary.

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I think it should be in the 99 degrees position, not 103.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:54 PM

And details on launch date? I couldn't find it in the other thread.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:02 PM

Very early in 2014 I believe, to the 99 slot.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:10 PM

Very early in 2014 I believe, to the 99 slot.


Then we will all drool for weeks as it obtains orbit, gets parked, the first signals are detected from it, the receivers finally show it on the signal screen.... Then everyone goes "Aw Crap" when they add 250 new PPV channels on it :)

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:16 PM

Then we will all drool for weeks as it obtains orbit, gets parked, the first signals are detected from it, the receivers finally show it on the signal screen.... Then everyone goes "Aw Crap" when they add 250 new PPV channels on it :)


I'd be more excited by the new signals showing up on the screen than by the new 250 PPV channels. :D:D:D:D

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 12:25 AM

It will probably be in the 103 degrees position so no new equipment will be necessary.

Kevin


That's not necessarily true. We don't really know yet if a new lnb will be needed, as this sat also appears to be loaded with a bss payload, and if that's used for regular national channels as well, we will likely need new lnb's and possible new swims as well. If that happens, DirecTV would have to foot the bill for that, so we will see.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 04:48 PM

Then we will all drool for weeks as it obtains orbit, gets parked, the first signals are detected from it, the receivers finally show it on the signal screen.... Then everyone goes "Aw Crap" when they add 250 new PPV channels on it :)


Haha so true they fill it up with more dumb ass shopping channels that nobody watched

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 06:38 PM

Hey those shopping channels help keep our bills from going higher, and SD doesn't take a lot of bandwidth.

PPV channels can be used as placeholders as well.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:19 AM

The latest on DirecTV-14 (RB-1):

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=941116


Also, minor item on DirecTV-15 (RB-2) from a while ago:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=936073


Edited by Sixto, 05 March 2012 - 07:25 AM.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:30 AM

The latest on DirecTV-14 (RB-1):

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=941116


Also, minor item on DirecTV-15 (RB-2) from a while ago:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=936073


I'm getting blank pages on both of those links :confused:

Edit: Clicking on the link downloaded a file which was hidden on the screen behind Firefox. Nevermind :rolleyes:

Edited by bobnielsen, 05 March 2012 - 10:49 AM.


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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:51 AM

I'm getting blank pages on both of those links :confused:


Viglink strikes again :( I was able to get the first document (attached here) but no luck on the second

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:57 AM

Accordingly, DIRECTV recognizes that, as contemplated under Section 25.113(f) of the Commission’s rules, it is proceeding with construction of the satellite at its own risk.

Looks like they're scrambling to get the horse back in front of the cart.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:09 PM

The latest on DirecTV-14 (RB-1):

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=941116

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The SS/L contract contemplates a satellite with both a 17/24 GHz BSS payload and a Ka-band payload. Although DIRECTV currently operates two Ka-band satellites at the nominal 99° W.L. orbital location, it has not yet sought authorization for the Ka-band payload on this satellite. DIRECTV is in the process of finalizing various design and operational details, and intends to file an appropriate application with the Commission for such authority in the next few months.


Oh ... so I guess that answers the question then to the strange omissions of any FCC licensing requests filings by DIRECTV for the Ka-band payload to be placed aboard D14/RB-1

They simply haven't made any yet for the reasons cited. Duh ... :lol:

It also shows D14/RB-1 is definitely destined for 99W.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:16 PM

Few other interesting goodies as well ...

DirecTV Ku-79W:

DIRECTV hereby applies for authority to launch and operate a geostationary Ku-band spacecraft, at the nominal 79 W.L. orbital location, which has recently become available for licensing.

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=940873


There's also a bunch more that references 97W but the doc is 79W, I think ...

Schedule-S for 97W:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=941164


Edited by Sixto, 05 March 2012 - 02:55 PM.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:20 PM

Few other interesting goodies as well ...

DirecTV Ku-79W:

DIRECTV hereby applies for authority to launch and operate a geostationary Ku-band spacecraft, at the nominal 79 W.L. orbital location, which has recently become available for licensing.

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=940873


Sounds like they're mainly needing this for coverage in Mexico and for more HD channels in the US international packages. Can't see DIRECTV wanting to have to add 79W to the core US customer base with all the dishs that would need to be replaced.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:28 PM

Sounds like they're mainly needing this for coverage in Mexico and for more HD channels in the US international packages. Can't see DIRECTV wanting to have to add 79W to the core US customer base with all the dishs that would need to be replaced.

Yep, looks that way ...

It came from:

INFORMATIVE

SES Americom previously operated the AMC-2 space station (Call Sign 2134) at the 78.95° W.L. orbital location using the 3700-4200 MHz (space-to-Earth), 5925-6425 MHz (Earth-to-space), 11.7-12.2 GHz (space-to-Earth) and 14.0-14.5 GHz (Earth-to-space) frequency bands and the AMC-5 space station (Call Sign S2156) at the 79.10° W. L. orbital location using the 11.7-12.2 GHz (space-to-Earth) and 14.0-14.5 GHz (Earth-to-space) frequency bands. Both space stations now operate at different orbital locations. See IBFS File Nos.SAT-MOD-20111025-00209 and SAT-STA-20111017-00205 for Call Sign S2134, and IBFS File Nos. SAT-MOD-20110929-00192 and SAT-STA-20110929-00191 for Call Sign S2156.

The frequency bands previously authorized on the AMC-2 space station (Call Sign S2134) at the 78.95° W.L. orbital location and on the AMC-5 space station (Call Sign S2156) at the 79.10° W. L. orbital location are now available for reassignment pursuant to the Commission's first-come, first-served licensing process effective 2:00 p.m. EST on Tuesday, February 28, 2012. At that time, applicants may file applications for new space stations, market access by non-U.S. licensed space stations, modifications to licensed space stations, or amendments to pending applications taking this announcement into account. Applications filed prior to this date and time will be dismissed as premature without prejudice to refiling.


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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:19 PM

Few other interesting goodies as well ...

DirecTV Ku-79W:

DIRECTV hereby applies for authority to launch and operate a geostationary Ku-band spacecraft, at the nominal 79 W.L. orbital location, which has recently become available for licensing.

... Schedule-S: http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=941164


There's also a bunch more that references 97W but the doc is 79W, I think ...


Sixto, that link to a Schedule S document is for a 48 transponder Ka-band with a solely CONUS beam bird using circular polarization.

DIRECTV KU-97W is to be a 24 transponder Ku-bander with linear polarization and Mexican and CONUS beams.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:49 PM

Sixto, that link to a Schedule S document is for a 48 transponder Ka-band with a solely CONUS beam bird using circular polarization.

DIRECTV KU-97W is to be a 24 transponder Ku-bander with linear polarization and Mexican and CONUS beams.

Hmmm. Let me check. Been running around today, and I didn't read any of it yet, saw it, posted, and ran. Will look.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:54 PM

That's the Schedule-S under 97W, not 79W. Will continue to look.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:08 PM

That's the Schedule-S under 97W, not 79W. Will continue to look.


OK,

I think that was the purposed one for a Ka-band bird at 97W discussed earlier in this thread which as since been abandoned.

Many thanks though for weeding through the confusing maze of FCC filings and posting whatever you can find on this stuff so far.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:20 AM

Our friend gct started this discussion on the 79W satellite for Mexico and Puerto Rico last week.

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=202567

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:22 AM

Our friend gct started this discussion on the 79W satellite for Mexico and Puerto Rico last week.

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=202567

Cool. Hadn't seen that thread. Subscribed now. :) Thanks.

Then really just the new RB-1 info for here.

Edited by Sixto, 06 March 2012 - 11:27 AM.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:31 AM

A little bit on BSS from last week:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=944272


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:25 AM

A little bit on BSS from last week:

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