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#551 OFFLINE   HoTat2

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:16 AM

With all the emphasis on HD and their associated uplink facilities, I'd practically forgotten about the ECUF in Virgina.

Which I assume stands for "East Coast Uplink Facility," and is primarily at least for SD Ku spotbeam locals to my knowledge.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:20 PM

Of some interest to the future of the Directv satellite constellation, Space Systems/Loral (SS/L) is being acquired by the Canadian firm MDA. Shouldn't affect things really, but some of us do like to follow the major comings and goings in the aerospace industry.

http://spaceref.biz/...uster-deal.html


In that same realm, I noticed that sea launch had a successful launch a few weeks ago and is back up and running again. That may be even more important, as it adds another launch provider location.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 05:36 PM

In that same realm, I noticed that sea launch had a successful launch a few weeks ago and is back up and running again. That may be even more important, as it adds another launch provider location.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 06:00 PM

In that same realm, I noticed that sea launch had a successful launch a few weeks ago and is back up and running again. That may be even more important, as it adds another launch provider location.


Yeah, their return to operations has been long, convoluted and involved a partial change of ownership. They're not currently in the loop for any announced Directv launches, however.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 06:46 PM

The LOA document actually states a launch window of late 2013 to early 2014;

From the PDF:

"DIRECTV anticipates that Space Systems/Loral will complete construction of DIRECTV 14 in the fourth quarter of 2013 and that the satellite will be launched by the end of that year or in early 2014."


But there is more to it than that.... Satellites do not carry a lot of fuel like the Soyuz or Progress that goes to the IIS. When it reaches orbit, it will get a small burst, a "nudge" that will bring it into an orbit that will increase with each time the satellite orbits. It will do this for many weeks, until it reaches the desired orbital height. Once there, the engines will be used to "park" it at a geo-stationary orbit.

The reason this takes time, again, is because of fuel constraints, and breaking in space costs just as much fuel as accelerating.

To get an idea how long it took for D12: http://en.wikipedia....wiki/DirecTV-12

In short, you probably won't see any channels on the new D14 satellite until some 4 to 6 months after its initial launch. VERY best case scenario, and builders keep their target date, the weather hold up for the first available launch opportunity, and testing goes very smoothly and quick..... you may see channels pop up on D14 some time in spring 2014. But more realistically, I would not bet on seeing anything till the summer of 2014.

That is of course, there isn't a (big) problem with the launch.... in which case we'll have to wait till D15..
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Posted 27 June 2012 - 07:43 PM

Yeah, their return to operations has been long, convoluted and involved a partial change of ownership. They're not currently in the loop for any announced Directv launches, however.


Yeah, it looks like they are now owned by one of the other land based launch systems so if something fell behind somewhere, I have to wonder if they could push some to sea launch to keep launches going. Don't think that wood have any impact n DIRECTV next launches... Of course I know that's not something that can happen quickly, but the more launchers the better IMHO for the overall industry.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 07:52 PM

Changing launchers could be done in 6 months in advance ...

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 08:09 PM

But there is more to it than that.... Satellites do not carry a lot of fuel like the Soyuz or Progress that goes to the IIS. When it reaches orbit, it will get a small burst, a "nudge" that will bring it into an orbit that will increase with each time the satellite orbits. It will do this for many weeks, until it reaches the desired orbital height. Once there, the engines will be used to "park" it at a geo-stationary orbit.

The reason this takes time, again, is because of fuel constraints, and breaking in space costs just as much fuel as accelerating.

To get an idea how long it took for D12: http://en.wikipedia....wiki/DirecTV-12

In short, you probably won't see any channels on the new D14 satellite until some 4 to 6 months after its initial launch. VERY best case scenario, and builders keep their target date, the weather hold up for the first available launch opportunity, and testing goes very smoothly and quick..... you may see channels pop up on D14 some time in spring 2014. But more realistically, I would not bet on seeing anything till the summer of 2014.

That is of course, there isn't a (big) problem with the launch.... in which case we'll have to wait till D15..


Oh sure, I never said there wasn't a lot to be done post launch. There's orbit raising, in orbit testing, transfer to its operational slot, more testing again after arrival, etc. all which must be successfully accomplished before D14/RB-1 is formally placed into service.

I was just referring to prospective window for the actual launch date as anywhere from late 2013 early 2014.

Not of all the processes which follow it.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:03 AM

To get an idea how long it took for D12: http://en.wikipedia....wiki/DirecTV-12


Bear in mind, however, that D12 (and D10 before it) was launched from Baikonur Cosmodrome on a Proton rocket. Launching to an equatorial orbit from such a high latitude takes a LOT more time (and generally a lot more fuel) than launching from an equatorial site, as was done for D11 (SeaLaunch) and will be done for the next few Directv launched with Arianespace. So although testing and checkout will still require extensive work, orbit raising and circularizing won't take nearly as long.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:27 AM

6/29/2012:

DIRECTV hereby requests an extension of its STA for up to 60 days to continue to stationkeep the DIRECTV 1R spacecraft at the BSS slot allocated to the US at 109.8 W.L. and to perform TT&C operations with DIRECTV 1R during this period.

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=957792

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:53 AM

6/29/2012:

DIRECTV hereby requests an extension of its STA for up to 60 days to continue to stationkeep the DIRECTV 1R spacecraft at the BSS slot allocated to the US at 109.8 W.L. and to perform TT&C operations with DIRECTV 1R during this period.

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=957792

http://licensing.fcc...erC/File Number


Hey, I guess the old gal is going to get a new lease on life. Though maybe with someone else and for some other service.

It was supposed to be headed for disposal first reported here back in early May.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:30 PM

They (Spectrum) certainly don't give up easily:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=958639



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Posted 07 July 2012 - 02:47 PM

They (Spectrum) certainly don't give up easily:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=958639


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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:17 PM

I've seen people talking about call centers for DirecTV and where they're located. I just called to find out about the loss of the Viacom channels and talked to a rep in Mexico. I asked "where are you located" and he said Mexico. I asked to talk to someone in the U.S. and he said he couldn't help me. I hung up and then called back and got a rep in Utah. He said he didn't even know DirecTV had call centers for the U.S. in Mexico. I've been with DirecTV since 1999 and have always talked to someone in the U.S. when calling customer service until now. When I pay my $160 a month (not including Sunday Ticket) it's nice to know that DirecTV is doing all they can to keep my bill "low" by exporting jobs to Mexico!!! God Bless the USA!!!!

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:37 PM

I've seen people talking about call centers for DirecTV and where they're located. I just called to find out about the loss of the Viacom channels and talked to a rep in Mexico. I asked "where are you located" and he said Mexico. I asked to talk to someone in the U.S. and he said he couldn't help me. I hung up and then called back and got a rep in Utah. He said he didn't even know DirecTV had call centers for the U.S. in Mexico. I've been with DirecTV since 1999 and have always talked to someone in the U.S. when calling customer service until now. When I pay my $160 a month (not including Sunday Ticket) it's nice to know that DirecTV is doing all they can to keep my bill "low" by exporting jobs to Mexico!!! God Bless the USA!!!!


You joined just to express this?

I'm not sure that there is a forum where this "belongs" but it definitely doesn't belong in this thread. This is for discussing the actual satellites themselves.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:38 PM

I've seen people talking about call centers for DirecTV and where they're located. I just called to find out about the loss of the Viacom channels and talked to a rep in Mexico. I asked "where are you located" and he said Mexico. I asked to talk to someone in the U.S. and he said he couldn't help me. I hung up and then called back and got a rep in Utah. He said he didn't even know DirecTV had call centers for the U.S. in Mexico. I've been with DirecTV since 1999 and have always talked to someone in the U.S. when calling customer service until now. When I pay my $160 a month (not including Sunday Ticket) it's nice to know that DirecTV is doing all they can to keep my bill "low" by exporting jobs to Mexico!!! God Bless the USA!!!!


I wonder if they are getting s Mary calls they are having their Mexico call centers help out with its us operations so you don't have to wait extra long on to get through to someone. Would seem a bit odd though, since I doubt they'd be trained on the particulars of us dtv operations. I had never heard of them having call centers there either. Are you sure he didn't say new Mexico?

Edit: just realized what thread this is in. Not really the right place for it...

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:25 PM

They (Spectrum) certainly don't give up easily:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=958639

And DirecTV's response: http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=959705

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:36 AM

And DirecTV's response: http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=959705

And Spectrum's reply to DirecTV's reply:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=961229



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Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:06 AM

Really what's in it for Spectrum 5? I never heard of them. How much is Charlie paying them?

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:22 PM

Really what's in it for Spectrum 5? I never heard of them. How much is Charlie paying them?

Not Charlie. Spectrum 5 has gone up against DISH's plans as well. They are the reason why DISH cannot get the final two transponders at 61.5. Gotta leave the door open for "new entrants".

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:10 AM

DIRECTV request D1R's transfer to the "Russian Satellite Communication Company." (RSCC) at 56.16 EL to aid a failing DBS satellite there, "Bonum I," until its delayed new replacement "Express-AT1" is ready for service late next year.

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=963866

STA Request for TT&C for move from 109.8 WL to 56.16 EL

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=957792

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:18 AM

Thanks for posting. Saw that last week, then forgot to post. Thx.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:57 AM

Posted in own thread ... http://www.dbstalk.c...6&highlight=d1r
Doesn't fit into the topic, thought. It's old sat, ready to deorbiting.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 01:45 PM

Posted in own thread ... http://www.dbstalk.c...6&highlight=d1r
Doesn't fit into the topic, thought. It's old sat, ready to deorbiting.


It fits the topic just fine: "Directv Satellite Discussion."

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:55 AM

The latest on D1R:

http://www.dbstalk.c...003#post3084003






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