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#1 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 04:43 PM

Next up, DirecTV-14, 2014.

Space Systems / Loral (SS/L) Selected to Provide High-Power Satellite to DirecTV:

http://www.ssloral.c...pr20100611.html

RB-1 (S2711 at 99°) FCC Filings:

Application: http://licensing.fcc...erC/File Number

Original (1/2008): http://licensing.fcc...ent_key=-141474

Grant (7/2009): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=727403

Bond (8/2009): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=737367

Build (7/2010): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=837188

Modification (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=907941

Schedule-S (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=908556
 

RB-2 (S2712 at 103°) FCC Filings:

Original (1/2008): http://licensing.fcc...ent_key=-141476

Letter (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=908362

Letter (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=910484

Modification (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=907995

Schedule-S (7/2011): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=908568
 

 

The FCC approvals from 7/28/2009 ... the Notes are from early September last time I checked:

[table="header"]FCC Application|Company|Callsign|Slot|Notes
SAT-LOA-20050210-00031|Intelsat|S2662|91°|Surrendered
SAT-LOA-20060412-00042|Pegasus|S2698|91°|Surrendered
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SAT-LOA-20060908-00099|DirecTV|S2711|99°|Paid (RB-1)
SAT-LOA-20050210-00029|Intelsat|S2660|99°|Surrendered
|
SAT-LOA-20060908-00100|DirecTV |S2712|103°|Paid (RB-2)
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SAT-LOA-19970605-00049|DirecTV| S2242|107°|Surrendered
SAT-LOA-20020328-00052|EchoStar|S2442|107°|Paid
SAT-LOA-20060412-00043|Pegasus|S2699|107°|Surrendered
|
SAT-LOA-20020328-00051|EchoStar|S2441|111°|Paid
SAT-LOA-19970605-00050|DirecTV| S2243|111°|Paid (RB-4)
[/table]

 


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#2 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 04:44 PM

Placeholder for reference information.

Ku

101° / 110° / 119°


Ka-Hi

Spaceway-1 (LiL: 103°)

Spaceway-2 (LiL: 99°)

DirecTV-12 (CONUS: 103°)


Ka-Lo

DirecTV-10 (CONUS/LiL: 103°)

DirecTV-11 (CONUS/LiL: 99°)

DirecTV-12 (LiL: 103°)

Ka / BSS

DirecTV-14 (CONUS/LiL: 99°)


Two Line Element (TLE) Format:

A NORAD two-line element (TLE) set consists of two 69-character lines of data which describe in detail a spacecraft's trajectory around the earth.

Calculated and published by the U.S. government regularly.

http://celestrak.com/columns/v04n03/

http://www.space-tra...tle_format.html

Boeing DirecTV-10/DirecTV-11/DirecTV-12 Fact Sheet:

http://www.boeing.co...tv10_11_12.html


Edited by Sixto, 02 June 2011 - 06:35 PM.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 04:47 PM

Placeholder for historical information.

D12

9/2009-5/2010: http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=164555

7/2008-9/2009: http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=134248

D11

3/2008-8/2008: http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=123236

D10

5/2010-6/2010: http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=176796

7/2007-9/2007: http://www.dbstalk.c...ead.php?t=91383


Edited by Sixto, 12 July 2010 - 08:55 AM.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 09:00 AM

Other thread (D10/D12) went quiet for a couple of weeks, so good time to close.

Figured would finally re-open this thread, first few posts still need MUCH work.

Latest news is FCC applications for new earth stations (E100079 & E100080):

E100079 (License): http://licensing.fcc...erC/File Number

E100080 (License): http://licensing.fcc...erC/File Number

E100079 (Amend): http://licensing.fcc...erC/File Number

E100080 (Amend): http://licensing.fcc...erC/File Number

E100079 (STA): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=824103

E100080 (STA): http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=824104

STA Grant: http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=826749


Haven't yet looked at frequencies to see if this is needed for new D12 HD. At least new up-links to support D11 LiL.

Edited by Sixto, 12 July 2010 - 09:44 AM.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 09:34 AM

Origin application to communicate with KA sats:
D8, D9S, D10, D11, SW1, SW2.
Amendment to add D12

100079 SWUF KA3 at Tuscon Pima, AZ
100080 SWDF KA3 at Benson Cochise, AZ

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Edited by doctor j, 12 July 2010 - 10:19 AM.
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 12:54 PM

Origin application to communicate with KA sats:
D8, D9S, D10, D11, SW1, SW2.
Amendment to add D12

100079 SWUF KA3 at Tuscon Pima, AZ
100080 SWDF KA3 at Benson Cochise, AZ

Doctor j


Not exactly sure what the "D" stands for in "SWDF" for the Benson Cochise, Az. site, but still interesting info. for us techno-geeks nonetheless. :)

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 06:42 PM

If I remember the discussion in the D12 thread, the next sattelite that D* will launch is D14. I have looked, but I have not found a thread that has any information on filings or rumors. Do any of the sattelite guys out there have anything new and juicy for us.
I know that D* and E* both said they would have 100% LiL coverage by 2012, but I don't think either of them can do that without launching another bird (or two).
I still live in one of the 6% of the country that D* still doesn't cover.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 07:01 PM

I don't recall any announcement from DirecTV stating that they are doing 100% locals. Dish is using a marketing way to do it so that they comply with some statutes. Either way the last thing I read was just a PO to order them had been announced a while ago. You'll know if something starts to happen as Sixto, and Lamelefty will start posting FCC filings and hdtvfan0001 will somehow double his posts.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 07:29 PM

I don't recall any announcement from DirecTV stating that they are doing 100% locals.


I thought I remembered something about when they were both talking to Congress about the law that passed. I thought the caveat was that they were required to have 100% SD coverage by 2012 (the year could be off).

I guess this depends on your definition of "coverage" and "100%". :lol:

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:06 PM

Not much "news" but:
http://www.satellite...ts-with-directv

Which points back to "us": http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=179143


Yeah, I kind of knew this "news". I was hoping something more recent. It has been 7 months since Loral supposedly starting constructing D14. Wikipedia says a 2013 launch date, but it had no references, so my guess is that its someone's guess.

I just know that the FCC paperwork has a lead time associated with it, so I hoping that someone that is "hooked in" might have some additional information.

The silence is deafening...

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:13 PM

Yeah, I kind of knew this "news". I was hoping something more recent. It has been 7 months since Loral supposedly starting constructing D14. Wikipedia says a 2013 launch date, but it had no references, so my guess is that its someone's guess.

I just know that the FCC paperwork has a lead time associated with it, so I hoping that someone that is "hooked in" might have some additional information.

The silence is deafening...

There is always silence between launches because the cycle from:

satellite order...to manufacturer...to test...to delivery...to launch is often measured in years, not months.
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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:17 PM

As far as Dish goes, the launch of spotbeam configured Questzsat-1 to 77W late this year will give them much increased capacity for LIL. The sat at 77 now is a CONUS bird with the beams pointed away from Canada border regions. Spots at 77w might also free up some markets in the east that are only on 129 (my presuming they will get moved off of 129 and to 77.)

As far as DirecTV goes, I think their plans for migration of all remaining markets off of 72.5 and onto 99 or 103 is probabaly taking a lot of their 2011 focus and will of course eat up some portion of the available bandwidth there too.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:29 PM

My guess is that DirecTV-14 is going to be very similar to DirecTV-12 at 103 WL by providing Ka A-band CONUS beam service from 99 WL. Maybe a 99ca? :)

The only major difference is it will likely have a full CONUS coverage reverse-DBS band payload unlike DirecTV-12's limited 4 spotbeam RB-2A package.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:36 PM

If everything goes smoothly with reverse DBS I could see them putting it at the 101.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:47 PM

If everything goes smoothly with reverse DBS I could see them putting it at the 101.


But it also has a Ka payload, does DIRECTV has licences for Ka at 101?

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:49 PM

But it also has a Ka payload, does DIRECTV has licences for Ka at 101?


You mean KU and honestly I don't know if they can do KU at the 101. I would guess not but who knows what they have in the works.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:50 PM

There is always silence between launches because the cycle from:

satellite order...to manufacturer...to test...to delivery...to launch is often measured in years, not months.


So we are talking glacial speeds here. Then again with global warming, glaciers are moving faster... :D

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:56 PM

If everything goes smoothly with reverse DBS I could see them putting it at the 101.


But it also has a Ka payload, does DIRECTV has licences for Ka at 101?


You mean KU and honestly I don't know if they can do KU at the 101. I would guess not but who knows what they have in the works.


101 is Ku now and yes I meant Ka since part of the announcement said:

The 1300 is a decades-proven, modular platform that has highest power capability and flexibility for a broad range of applications and it would enable DIRECTV 14 to use Ka-band and reverse band spectrum on a satellite that will help DIRECTV expand its HD programming to both national and local markets.


See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 26 January 2011 - 08:59 PM

So we are talking glacial speeds here. Then again with global warming, glaciers are moving faster... :D


No just right now there's really nothing to talk about. Once the FCC filings happen we'll talk for months about it. The first FCC filings will have what the bird is setup with and for. Orbital slot won't be correct but based on the load they setup on it we can usually tell what it's for and it's plans.

We will do that for a few months and then another filing will come out and we'll talk more for months then a launch date will be announced and we'll anticipate this for months and then finally it will launch which will let us argue about PPV and HD channels for a month while it gets into position. Then we start all over in about a year.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 09:00 PM

101 is Ku now and yes I meant Ka since part of the announcement said:


You're right sorry it's been a long day. Time for some rest!




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