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#21 OFFLINE   LameLefty

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 09:58 PM

Directv's most recent investor day presentations made reference to D14 being launched in June 2013 but give no specifics. I would think the exact RF payload will depend on the results of testing of the RB-2A BSS payload which is on D12.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 10:06 PM

Directv's most recent investor day presentations made reference to D14 being launched in June 2013 but give no specifics. I would think the exact RF payload will depend on the results of testing of the RB-2A BSS payload which is on D12.


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Posted 27 January 2011 - 06:55 AM

Directv's most recent investor day presentations made reference to D14 being launched in June 2013 but give no specifics. I would think the exact RF payload will depend on the results of testing of the RB-2A BSS payload which is on D12.

Makes sense.

Amazingly...there was alot of chatter about BSS testing around D12's launch time...but there's been a black hole of no news since on that front since...
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Posted 27 January 2011 - 09:12 AM

As I recall there was speculation that the extended IOT of D12 was to fully exercise and analyze the performance and capabilities of the RB-2A payload and the BSS technology.

At the same time there were others speculating that the unexpectedly long test period was an indication that something had gone horribly awry, and that didn't turn out to be the case.

If they did find out everything they needed to know with BSS on D12 I would not be at all surprised to see a fully functional BSS payload on D14.

Does anyone know when DirecTV would have to have their payload(s) ready to join to the satellite bus to meet a 6/2013 launch projection?
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Posted 27 January 2011 - 09:22 AM

Does anyone know when DirecTV would have to have their payload(s) ready to join to the satellite bus to meet a 6/2013 launch projection?


My SWAG would be that Directv would have to make sure that they have their RF system specs completely nailed down by Q1 2012 to get the systems fabricated and integrated into the spacecraft bus with sufficient schedule margin to allow for any glitches. Fortunately, nothing is particularly new or different in design of the spacecraft or the payloads - it's just the combination of parts is always at least somewhat unique, and some of them might have a long lead time. Hopefully, the RF systems subcontractor to Loral already has a set of preliminary high-level specifications to work from and has pre-ordered any longer lead-time items.

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 09:38 AM

My SWAG would be that Directv would have to make sure that they have their RF system specs completely nailed down by Q1 2012 to get the systems fabricated and integrated into the spacecraft bus with sufficient schedule margin to allow for any glitches. Fortunately, nothing is particularly new or different in design of the spacecraft or the payloads - it's just the combination of parts is always at least somewhat unique, and some of them might have a long lead time. Hopefully, the RF systems subcontractor to Loral already has a set of preliminary high-level specifications to work from and has pre-ordered any longer lead-time items.


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Posted 28 January 2011 - 06:21 PM

I hope they get the Rally Sport package with the leather and wood interior.


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Posted 28 January 2011 - 06:38 PM

So how many new PPV will we be getting with the D14?:)

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 06:52 PM

So how many new PPV will we be getting with the D14?:)

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 02:55 AM

My guess is that DirecTV-14 is going to be very similar to DirecTV-12 at 103 WL by providing Ka A-band CONUS beam service from 99 WL. Maybe a 99ca? :)

The only major difference is it will likely have a full CONUS coverage reverse-DBS band payload unlike DirecTV-12's limited 4 spotbeam RB-2A package.


That would be my guess. D12 couldn't do Conus on the reverse-DBS band because it is licensed to both a Canadian company and DirecTV. The Canadian company filed first internationally so DirecTV has to avoid interfering with them. This pretty much limits it to spot beams as you could never get proper conus coverage with out having interference problems. I predict that long term a large amount of locals will be coming from it but probably not until much close to when they will have to replace D10.

There are 2 things that give me a little pause on having both bands be conus on D14.

1) Power limitations. 14/16 KA conus tps and 18 reverse-DBS conus tps would be quite a lot of power needed and I think more than current configs use.

2) LNBs. I'm assuming we'll all need new LNBs to get the new band which means lots of service calls or limiting what it is used for somehow.

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 01:01 PM

That would be my guess. D12 couldn't do Conus on the reverse-DBS band because it is licensed to both a Canadian company and DirecTV. The Canadian company filed first internationally so DirecTV has to avoid interfering with them. This pretty much limits it to spot beams as you could never get proper conus coverage with out having interference problems. I predict that long term a large amount of locals will be coming from it but probably not until much close to when they will have to replace D10.

There are 2 things that give me a little pause on having both bands be conus on D14.

1) Power limitations. 14/16 KA conus tps and 18 reverse-DBS conus tps would be quite a lot of power needed and I think more than current configs use.

2) LNBs. I'm assuming we'll all need new LNBs to get the new band which means lots of service calls or limiting what it is used for somehow.


As I recall, the Canadian company filed a lawsuit to stop them from even testing/using spots sayign they owned all the rights to that spectrum, even in the US, and had nothing to do with conus, because they didn't build a conus transponder into that bird at all.... And then add to that that the FCC and as far as I know no one else, ever even sided with the Canadian company. In fact, on some of the reply, it kind of sounded like the FCC said, well, STFU to them because I don't think they have shown any ability to actually launch a sat and use the spectrum. So I wonder about if they won't be able to use CONUS from that location anyway... Lefty and Sixto will remember for sure.

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 01:16 PM

what did we get with d-12 ?????

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 01:53 PM

A freind of mine got att-uadverse - The installer told me they now own Directv. Is this true? If so then has come they have tv channels that we Directv do not have access to , such as east and west feeds of TNT or TBS?

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 02:19 PM

A freind of mine got att-uadverse - The installer told me they now own Directv. Is this true? If so then has come they have tv channels that we Directv do not have access to , such as east and west feeds of TNT or TBS?


AT&T does not own D* as of yet.

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 02:26 PM

A freind of mine got att-uadverse - The installer told me they now own Directv. Is this true? If so then has come they have tv channels that we Directv do not have access to , such as east and west feeds of TNT or TBS?


Utter nonsense from that U-verse installer ...

DirecTV is owned by the "DirecTV Group" which is in turn controlled by Liberty Media.

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 03:22 PM

Utter nonsense from that U-verse installer ...

DirecTV is owned by the "DirecTV Group" which is in turn controlled by Liberty Media.

http://en.wikipedia....e_DirecTV_Group


IIRC Liberty is now out of the picture completly. DIRECTV now controls their own destiny.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 10:20 PM

A freind of mine got att-uadverse - The installer told me they now own Directv. Is this true? If so then has come they have tv channels that we Directv do not have access to , such as east and west feeds of TNT or TBS?


Bahahaha, this always amuses me. ATT or Verizon claiming they own DTV. Fat chance :lol:
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 11:32 PM

Perhaps in some places AT&T offer bundle with DTV as it been here but with a competitor four years ago.


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Posted 01 February 2011 - 06:59 AM

I wish AT&T bought DirecTV. They sure have more HD channels. Plus maybe they would get the nice Mediaroom UI to work on the H2x/HR2x series receivers.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 09:24 AM

Perhaps in some places AT&T offer bundle with DTV as it been here but with a competitor four years ago.


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Yup .. Let's get back to talking about DIRECTV 14 .. The newest Satellite in DIRECTV's fleet. Heck, it might not even technically be born yet, but we know it's coming.
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