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#461 OFFLINE   bobnielsen

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:30 AM

The latest on DirecTV-14 (RB-1):

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=941116


Also, minor item on DirecTV-15 (RB-2) from a while ago:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=936073


I'm getting blank pages on both of those links :confused:

Edit: Clicking on the link downloaded a file which was hidden on the screen behind Firefox. Nevermind :rolleyes:

Edited by bobnielsen, 05 March 2012 - 10:49 AM.


#462 OFFLINE   longrider

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:51 AM

I'm getting blank pages on both of those links :confused:


Viglink strikes again :( I was able to get the first document (attached here) but no luck on the second

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#463 OFFLINE   harsh

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:57 AM

Accordingly, DIRECTV recognizes that, as contemplated under Section 25.113(f) of the Commission’s rules, it is proceeding with construction of the satellite at its own risk.

Looks like they're scrambling to get the horse back in front of the cart.

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#464 OFFLINE   HoTat2

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:09 PM

The latest on DirecTV-14 (RB-1):

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=941116

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The SS/L contract contemplates a satellite with both a 17/24 GHz BSS payload and a Ka-band payload. Although DIRECTV currently operates two Ka-band satellites at the nominal 99° W.L. orbital location, it has not yet sought authorization for the Ka-band payload on this satellite. DIRECTV is in the process of finalizing various design and operational details, and intends to file an appropriate application with the Commission for such authority in the next few months.


Oh ... so I guess that answers the question then to the strange omissions of any FCC licensing requests filings by DIRECTV for the Ka-band payload to be placed aboard D14/RB-1

They simply haven't made any yet for the reasons cited. Duh ... :lol:

It also shows D14/RB-1 is definitely destined for 99W.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:16 PM

Few other interesting goodies as well ...

DirecTV Ku-79W:

DIRECTV hereby applies for authority to launch and operate a geostationary Ku-band spacecraft, at the nominal 79 W.L. orbital location, which has recently become available for licensing.

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=940873


There's also a bunch more that references 97W but the doc is 79W, I think ...

Schedule-S for 97W:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=941164


Edited by Sixto, 05 March 2012 - 02:55 PM.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:20 PM

Few other interesting goodies as well ...

DirecTV Ku-79W:

DIRECTV hereby applies for authority to launch and operate a geostationary Ku-band spacecraft, at the nominal 79 W.L. orbital location, which has recently become available for licensing.

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=940873


Sounds like they're mainly needing this for coverage in Mexico and for more HD channels in the US international packages. Can't see DIRECTV wanting to have to add 79W to the core US customer base with all the dishs that would need to be replaced.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:28 PM

Sounds like they're mainly needing this for coverage in Mexico and for more HD channels in the US international packages. Can't see DIRECTV wanting to have to add 79W to the core US customer base with all the dishs that would need to be replaced.

Yep, looks that way ...

It came from:

INFORMATIVE

SES Americom previously operated the AMC-2 space station (Call Sign 2134) at the 78.95° W.L. orbital location using the 3700-4200 MHz (space-to-Earth), 5925-6425 MHz (Earth-to-space), 11.7-12.2 GHz (space-to-Earth) and 14.0-14.5 GHz (Earth-to-space) frequency bands and the AMC-5 space station (Call Sign S2156) at the 79.10° W. L. orbital location using the 11.7-12.2 GHz (space-to-Earth) and 14.0-14.5 GHz (Earth-to-space) frequency bands. Both space stations now operate at different orbital locations. See IBFS File Nos.SAT-MOD-20111025-00209 and SAT-STA-20111017-00205 for Call Sign S2134, and IBFS File Nos. SAT-MOD-20110929-00192 and SAT-STA-20110929-00191 for Call Sign S2156.

The frequency bands previously authorized on the AMC-2 space station (Call Sign S2134) at the 78.95° W.L. orbital location and on the AMC-5 space station (Call Sign S2156) at the 79.10° W. L. orbital location are now available for reassignment pursuant to the Commission's first-come, first-served licensing process effective 2:00 p.m. EST on Tuesday, February 28, 2012. At that time, applicants may file applications for new space stations, market access by non-U.S. licensed space stations, modifications to licensed space stations, or amendments to pending applications taking this announcement into account. Applications filed prior to this date and time will be dismissed as premature without prejudice to refiling.


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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:19 PM

Few other interesting goodies as well ...

DirecTV Ku-79W:

DIRECTV hereby applies for authority to launch and operate a geostationary Ku-band spacecraft, at the nominal 79 W.L. orbital location, which has recently become available for licensing.

... Schedule-S: http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=941164


There's also a bunch more that references 97W but the doc is 79W, I think ...


Sixto, that link to a Schedule S document is for a 48 transponder Ka-band with a solely CONUS beam bird using circular polarization.

DIRECTV KU-97W is to be a 24 transponder Ku-bander with linear polarization and Mexican and CONUS beams.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:49 PM

Sixto, that link to a Schedule S document is for a 48 transponder Ka-band with a solely CONUS beam bird using circular polarization.

DIRECTV KU-97W is to be a 24 transponder Ku-bander with linear polarization and Mexican and CONUS beams.

Hmmm. Let me check. Been running around today, and I didn't read any of it yet, saw it, posted, and ran. Will look.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:54 PM

That's the Schedule-S under 97W, not 79W. Will continue to look.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 03:08 PM

That's the Schedule-S under 97W, not 79W. Will continue to look.


OK,

I think that was the purposed one for a Ka-band bird at 97W discussed earlier in this thread which as since been abandoned.

Many thanks though for weeding through the confusing maze of FCC filings and posting whatever you can find on this stuff so far.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:20 AM

Our friend gct started this discussion on the 79W satellite for Mexico and Puerto Rico last week.

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=202567

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:22 AM

Our friend gct started this discussion on the 79W satellite for Mexico and Puerto Rico last week.

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=202567

Cool. Hadn't seen that thread. Subscribed now. :) Thanks.

Then really just the new RB-1 info for here.

Edited by Sixto, 06 March 2012 - 11:27 AM.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:31 AM

A little bit on BSS from last week:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=944272


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:25 AM

A little bit on BSS from last week:

Easier to beg for forgiveness? Never let it be said that DIRECTV didn't rush D12.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:20 AM

Not really forgiveness, just reflecting the ex post facto status regarding the revised regulation.

I wonder if Directv is finally planning to use RB-2A for something :confused:

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:00 PM

IMO, it's good sign of lit it on soon.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 12:54 PM

Apologies in advance if the link is wonky - you know how it is with the FCC IBFS database.

Anyway, it looks like the end of the road for Directv 1R. It's been at the nominal 110ºW slot for awhile but now looks as though it will be raised to a disposal orbit in another 60 days or so.

October 1999 - July 2012 - Not a bad run for the old bird.

http://licensing.fcc...erC/File Number

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 01:05 PM

Apologies in advance if the link is wonky - you know how it is with the FCC IBFS database.

Anyway, it looks like the end of the road for Directv 1R. It's been at the nominal 110ºW slot for awhile but now looks as though it will be raised to a disposal orbit in another 60 days or so.

October 1999 - July 2012 - Not a bad run for the old bird.


Is that about average? Is it technological obsolescence or mechanical?
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 01:12 PM

I think it was rated for a 15 year lifespan. Several years ago it was providing locals for some of the small DMAs, I don't think it was handling anything else at that time (about 2007).




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