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#61 OFFLINE   SPACEMAKER

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 02:21 PM

So basically I have no hope of getting HD locals in DMA 115 until 2014 at the earliest. Total crock of s***.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 02:30 PM

So basically I have no hope of getting HD locals in DMA 115 until 2014 at the earliest. Total crock of s***.


Buy the AM21 and an outdoor antenna. You'll get your locals then.

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 04:53 PM

Buy the AM21 and an outdoor antenna. You'll get your locals then.


I have an AM21 connected to an HR24 and all of my locals come in nicely. At the time of my post I had an HR20 and I was having severe multi-path issues. Every thing is working great now.:)

But still, not getting HD locals in DMA115 is pathetic. And no one seems to be able to explain why which pretty frustrating.

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 08:20 PM

I have an AM21 connected to an HR24 and all of my locals come in nicely. At the time of my post I had an HR20 and I was having severe multi-path issues. Every thing is working great now.:)

But still, not getting HD locals in DMA115 is pathetic. And no one seems to be able to explain why which pretty frustrating.


Because of $$.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 01:02 AM

In my parents town of Minot, ND, they finally got locals last year except for FOX, which is odd because in Minot, both FOX and ABC are owned by the same company.

Don't ask me why anyone in that town would sign up for LIL when you still need an antenna for FOX. Also, the "local" affiliate is the Bismarck affiliate 90 miles away.
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Posted 10 March 2011 - 01:27 AM

In my parents town of Minot, ND, they finally got locals last year except for FOX, which is odd because in Minot, both FOX and ABC are owned by the same company.

Don't ask me why anyone in that town would sign up for LIL when you still need an antenna for FOX. Also, the "local" affiliate is the Bismarck affiliate 90 miles away.


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Posted 12 March 2011 - 08:51 AM

In my parents town of Minot, ND, they finally got locals last year except for FOX, which is odd because in Minot, both FOX and ABC are owned by the same company.

Don't ask me why anyone in that town would sign up for LIL when you still need an antenna for FOX. Also, the "local" affiliate is the Bismarck affiliate 90 miles away.


Not true. The ABC affiliate is owned by Forum Communications and the FOX affiliate is owned by Prime Cities Broadcasting. FOX used to operate the ABC affiliate, but now the CBS affiliate operates the ABC station.

BTW, all of the Big Four networks have full-power transmitters in Minot. That's why they have their own call signs.

I lived in Dickinson until a few weeks ago and the CBS, NBC, and PBS stations had their own call signs. ABC is carried as a digital subchannel off the CBS station, while FOX is operating as a translator.


The reason FOX isn't carried is that News Corp. want a piece of the fees that DirecTV would pay the affiliate. News Corp. isn't approving any new retransmission consent agreement for non-owned stations.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 10:22 AM

adkinsjm,
Could tell me what is your side thread have common with the thread's topic ?

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 07:56 PM

A little satellite stuff from last week:

http://fjallfoss.fcc...w?id=7021346616

Older:

http://fjallfoss.fcc...w?id=7021341540

http://fjallfoss.fcc...w?id=7021341538 <-- good stuff in here


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Posted 09 May 2011 - 09:00 PM

Yeah, I'd like last page - a picture.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 08:49 AM

Ok so they can get away with 0.2 degree spacing instead of 0.4 degree now? That's an improvement.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 08:50 AM

Ok so they can get away with 0.2 degree spacing instead of 0.4 degree now? That's an improvement.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 09:02 AM

Think the limit is actually .25° to be exact. But these are co-location distances not separately resolvable by the subscriber dish.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 11:53 AM

From FCC papers:

licensed DTV Ka:

99.115 W
99.225

100.85
101.10

102.765
102.815
102.925

and 17/24 GHz BSS:

99.175

102.765
102.825

110.9

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 09:09 AM

Given this info today:

http://licensing.fcc...erC/File Number

Modification to add Puerto Rico beam to CONUS antenna and slightly adjust orbital slot from 99.175 to 99.235.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 11:18 AM

Given this info today:

http://licensing.fcc...erC/File Number

Modification to add Puerto Rico beam to CONUS antenna and slightly adjust orbital slot from 99.175 to 99.235.

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Will that mean a possible lineup enhancement for those with the 'Mas' or 'En Español' package?

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 11:40 AM

RB 4 111W License Surrender

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 12:29 PM

RB 4 111W License Surrender

Surrender

Great find, spear61!

DIRECTV Enterprises, LLC (“DIRECTV”) hereby surrenders the authorization issued by grant stamp on July 28, 2009 to launch and operate DIRECTV RB-4, a 17/24 GHz BSS satellite, at the 110.9° W.L. orbital location.

DIRECTV takes this action reluctantly, as it has to date proceeded diligently to develop its 17/24 GHz BSS assets. DIRECTV has satisfied all payment obligations under its satellite construction contract with Space Systems/Loral, and recently completed Critical Design Review of this satellite along with the two other 17/24 GHz BSS satellites it is authorized to operate. Now that this preliminary work has been done, DIRECTV would have to commit to a rapidly escalating payment schedule to, among other things, cover the cost of long lead items and begin actual construction of DIRECTV RB-4. Unfortunately, in its ongoing review of the U.S. priority for this satellite under the International Telecommunication Union (“ITU”) rules, DIRECTV has reached the conclusion that claims of other administrations with superior priority (including Canada, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands) are increasingly likely to result in actual satellites with priority over DIRECTV either at or close to its assigned position. For example, Canada has licensed one 17/24 GHz BSS operator at 111.1° W.L. and another at 113° W.L.

In these circumstances, DIRECTV cannot justify proceeding further to develop this authorization given the substantial risk that its investment of hundreds of millions of dollars could be rendered essentially useless due to the inability to operate in the presence of non-U.S.-licensed systems with superior ITU priority.2


Note the portion I bolded. DIRECTV has made progress on the other two BSS satellites. No details except looks like Space Systems/Loral has the contract for these two satellites as well.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 12:33 PM

So the way I read it, it sounds like they really didn't want to give up the license but looking at other claims for adjacent slots they felt they wouldn't be actually allowed to put a satellite there, or am I reading it wrong?

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 12:37 PM

So the way I read it, it sounds like they really didn't want to give up the license but looking at other claims for adjacent slots they felt they wouldn't be actually allowed to put a satellite there, or am I reading it wrong?


Pretty much it. They don't want to spend hundreds of millions on a satellite they probably won't be able to operate in the US.

I wonder if behind the scenes they were unable to get a waiver on the milestones timelines until the courts cleared up the rights over the US. Or if they decided it wasn't even worth the effort based upon prior experience with the international courts.

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