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#41 ONLINE   Rich

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 08:26 AM

Add me to the list, I don't understand it. It's massively overpriced. But I have one coworker who racks up a huge bill on PPV with comcast every month.


My wife and son both buy some PPV movies or sports events every month. My son doesn't care what it costs since he doesn't have to pay for it and my wife pays the bill and she doesn't seem to care no matter how much I try to explain it to her. And the herd moves on.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 08:29 AM

I gotta agree with most here, that DTV PPV is priced way too high. Not to mention the 24 hour viewing window is absurd. The only way the price is going to come down is for people to stop paying for it. Even the BOGO's are not worth it if I have to watch within 24 hours.

Don't the movie studio's get it? I mean they are selling rights to Netflix & BB and they can offer movies at $1.99. Don't they realize that 18 million viewers are potential customers at a resonable price?


Aw, now you're being logical. That never works with this stuff. I can't imagine watching a movie with a 24 hour window, but it seems as if others can and as long as they do, they'll pay a premium price for it.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 08:34 AM

I gotta agree with most here, that DTV PPV is priced way too high. Not to mention the 24 hour viewing window is absurd. The only way the price is going to come down is for people to stop paying for it. Even the BOGO's are not worth it if I have to watch within 24 hours.

Don't the movie studio's get it? I mean they are selling rights to Netflix & BB and they can offer movies at $1.99. Don't they realize that 18 million viewers are potential customers at a resonable price?


People buy PPV .. otherwise the prices wouldn't be what they are.

DIRECTV now offers new releases earlier than Netflix and that may be some of the draw.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 08:47 AM

so, they're going bump ppv tenfold? but i'm still watching breaking bad and mad men in sd? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 08:55 AM

so, they're going bump ppv tenfold? but i'm still watching breaking bad and mad men in sd? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


And we don't have BBCA in HD! Why?

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:12 AM

HD anticipation is here: http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=179969

This is the wrong thread for that ..

Additionally, and I've stated it earlier in the thread .. There will be plenty of bandwidth to go around for everyone .. there is no reason to be concerned.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:24 AM

No matter what they do I am never going to give up my Netflix. I love that service too much since Blockbuster is dead to me.


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The "four week window" means nothing to me. If I can't wait four weeks to see the movie, then clearly I love the movie. If I love the movie, I'm buying the Blu-ray.

The only way I'd drop Netflix is if DIRECTV dropped their prices and the silly 24 hour BS.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:35 AM

I never buy PPV, I think it is a rip off. If want a movie bad, a trip to Wally world would do the trick. If people quit buying PPV the prices will go down.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:37 AM

You really don't get the real world, do you? Let a cable system claim their is no VOD just because theirs may be better.

I do live in the real world. A world where people who expect cable VOD aren't going to be pleased to learn that they have to buy into an HD DVR to have access to $5.99 movies and a relatively limited (relative to cable) slate of free programs.

What you're suggesting is kind of like comparing a golf cart (possibly bedecked with a racing stripe) with a Bugatti Veyron and insisting that your "sports car" is just as good as theirs.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:40 AM

I never buy PPV, I think it is a rip off. If want a movie bad, a trip to Wally world would do the trick. If people quit buying PPV the prices will go down.


Yet if anything the prices have gone up along with the restrictions .. That should tell you something.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:48 AM

Yet if anything the prices have gone up along with the restrictions .. That should tell you something.

It suggests they have a customer base that is willing to pay regardless. The question is how much larger they expect that customer base can get and whether or not it will appear to be a selling point against the competition when trying to draw customers away.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:52 AM

I do live in the real world. A world where people who expect cable VOD aren't going to be pleased to learn that they have to buy into an HD DVR to have access to $5.99 movies and a relatively limited (relative to cable) slate of free programs.


You don't need a HD DVR for $5.99 movies. Movies are available on the 100s channel range.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:53 AM

You don't need a HD DVR for $5.99 movies. Movies are available on the 100s channel range.

Yup...which we DirecTV subscribers know, of course. :D
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:53 AM

Pricing and viewing restrictions are likely out of DirecTV's control and in the hands of the studios. Look at how many PPV coupons people get - DirecTV wants to hook more people on it. I suspect that if it were up to DirecTV, there'd either be a "netflix" model of all-you-can-eat PPV or single PPV viewings would be cheaper in order to make it up in volume.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 10:08 AM

Yet if anything the prices have gone up along with the restrictions .. That should tell you something.


Yup, fully understand why DIRECTV is doing what they're doing. :money:

I'd do the same thing too. ;)

However, I'm not !pusht! money. I must spend wisely. Netflix is the wise choice. Cheaper, better picture and better sound than DIRECTV PPV. Plus, I can keep the movie for longer than 24 hours too. :D

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 04:51 AM

I think DTV PPV is a joke and I really don't understand why anyone watches it, unless they have money to burn. They would have to charge no more than $1.50 to make it competitive cost wise, and even then many can't get true HD on PPV (limited to 24 fpm capable HDTV) to match Blu-Ray quality anyway. I watch 12 to 16 Blu-Ray titles per month via Netflix for $18.

At $1.50 for PPV new releases, DTV would make a ton of money because millions would use it and use it often.


No matter how much I want to pay Netflix I can't decide at five PM that I want to watch Shutter Island at six and be able to do so. One pays something for convenience.

And as far as PQ goes, I've never directly compared DirecTV's 24fps 1080p with a BD, but I can say that the PPV 1080P PQ is definitely better than, say, the premium movie channels.

I do agree that the price is too high, however. I'd use PPV a lot more if it were cheaper.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 06:55 AM

I can remember when I came with them and you had ussb and D* ever month you got 2 free movie coupons ever month, but that was sept. 1995, they could still do that, they might sell more movies, which I wouldn"t buy any, I haven"t bought a movie in over 10 years, and don"t intend to, as a matter of fact I thinking of hucking on to my new antenna and let them have it, ever time you turn around they are going up, 15 years is about long enough!!!
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 10:14 AM

I do live in the real world. A world where people who expect cable VOD aren't going to be pleased to learn that they have to buy into an HD DVR to have access to $5.99 movies and a relatively limited (relative to cable) slate of free programs.


Yeah, cause you don't need a box of any kind to get cable so you can pay $5.99 for VOD movies. Again, what world do you live in?

Also, the slate of free programs is close to the number I get on Fios and close to the number I had on Comcast a few months ago when I cancelled. Guess you are believing advertising...

What you're suggesting is kind of like comparing a golf cart (possibly bedecked with a racing stripe) with a Bugatti Veyron and insisting that your "sports car" is just as good as theirs.

There are just some cans of whoop-ass that need to be left alone unless someone really wants to know -- at which point, you have a thoughtful answer.


Yeah, and Kia should stop advertising they have cars since they are not all Porsches.
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 10:19 AM

It suggests they have a customer base that is willing to pay regardless. The question is how much larger they expect that customer base can get and whether or not it will appear to be a selling point against the competition when trying to draw customers away.


WHO is drawing them away?

Let's see. Percy Jackson and the Olympians costs $5.99 in HD on DirecTV, Percy Jackson and the Olympians costs $5.99 in HD on Fios. Both have the same terms of sale.

So, how is DirecTV losing customers because of their VOD offerings?

The damned things are overpriced for me and a lot of people but they obviously sell and the price and terms of sale are pretty much driven by the studios and distributors as much or more than the end provider.
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 10:54 PM

Yeah, and Kia should stop advertising they have cars since they are not all Porsches.

Kia has never claimed to offer a world-class sports coupe just as you're never hear Porche bragging about their unprecedented factory warranty. Kia makes cars and Porche makes cars but each has a relative specialty and they need to stick to selling what they do well and not about how they can be everything to everyone.

The point I'm failing to impress upon you is that D* needs to toot its horn about what it does best (or at least every bit as good as the best) and have a clear explanation for the things it doesn't do as big. It isn't an all-or-nothing proposition as you seem to like to paint it.

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