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DirecTV Locals - City By City What's Available (v2)


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#741 OFFLINE   Rockaway1836

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:15 PM

Just noticed this morning that we have a channel 14 I'm pretty sure that it's really a sub-channel of channel 13. As with an OTA antenna it shows as 13-2, but Directv has designated it channel 14. It's the MY network. btw It's not HD, but at least it's something new !

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:19 AM

channel 68 in orlando-daytona beach is still listed in the guide as wbcc out of brevard. it is actually now wucf and it is in hd. i discovered this super bowl sunday. not sure when the change was made but central florida now has pbs hd again! :-)

#743 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:26 PM

...Well, D* promised that 99% of all DMAs would have HD LILs by the end of 2011. That proved to be wildly off-base. I think we're dealing with a combination of cost-effectiveness (bang-for-customer) and which DMA's have some existing OTA HD service.


I just stumbled upon your (mis)statement on the Directv website, whilst checking for announcements of any new LIL markets (sadly, there are no new entries at this time.)

Anyway -- the website statement is, "Directv provides HD Locals to 99.4% of all U.S. homes" at the close of 2011. That is a very different than your interpretation of, "... 99% of all DMA's".

Actually, 181 of 212 DMA's have HD Locals. That is 85% of all DMAs. But those remaining 31 DMAs in aggregate only represent 0.6% of all U.S. homes. (My arithmetic.) Looking at it another way: those 31 DMAs in aggregate are about equal to the Austin, TX DMA.


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Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:40 PM

On the other hand, us here at 125 ought to be way ahead of a lot of higher numbers that got it a long time ago. The bitter reality is assuaged by clever guerrilla tactics. Tomorrow night I'll miss Downton Abbey since it'll be cloudy and wimpy PBS ch. 25.1 will disappear off my OTA receiver. But I discovered I can download it from iTunes Monday morning. And frankly, the 720p from iTunes looks way better than the 1080i from PBS. Go figure.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:46 PM

Actually, 181 of 212 DMA's have HD Locals. That is 85% of all DMAs. But those remaining 31 DMAs in aggregate only represent 0.6% of all U.S. homes. (My arithmetic.) Looking at it another way: those 31 DMAs in aggregate are about equal to the Austin, TX DMA.


How can this be true when all you would have to do is combine two of the DMAs without locals in HD, Eugene and Lansing, to equal Austin? Throw in Bakersfield and you have far more households than Austin, and you still have 28 to go.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 12:18 AM

So are Portland, ME locals on 99, or 103 (It lists both)? 35 (My Network) is in HD, isn't it?

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 03:55 PM

I can confirm that WPME, channel 35, in the Portland/Auburn, ME area, IS in HD on Directv (But not Dish). This came from an email I received from Doug Finck, General Manager at WPME. As to which bird it's on though, he's not sure.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 05:20 PM

So are Portland, ME locals on 99, or 103 (It lists both)? 35 (My Network) is in HD, isn't it?


Uncertain as to what you are looking up.
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:58 PM

How can this be true when all you would have to do is combine two of the DMAs without locals in HD, Eugene and Lansing, to equal Austin? Throw in Bakersfield and you have far more households than Austin, and you still have 28 to go.


You are right. This time I had Excel do the arithmetic:


Total Nielsen Households, 2012: 114,649,310

HD Locals|181 DMAs|111,138,840|96.9% of US
SD Locals Only|15 DMAs|2,772,730|2.42% of US
No Locals|16 DMAs|737,740|0.64% of US


Sum of SD Locals Only, Plus No Locals At All
No HD Locals|31 DMAs|3,510,470|3.06% of US


Sum of HD Locals and SD Locals
Have Locals|196 DMAs|113,911,570|99.36% of US



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Posted 15 February 2012 - 06:49 PM

This is a double post (also entered in the Bakersfield DMA thread) but of much significance to folks HERE.

The DIRECTV Website has just posted the following list of DMA's to be provided HD Locals for 2012:

Bakersfield CA - 2012
Bend OR - 2012
Columbus-Tupelo-West Point MS - 2012
Corpus Christi TX - 2012
Duluth MN-Superior WI - 2012
Eugene OR - 2012
Fargo-Valley City ND - 2012
Lafayette LA - 2012
Lansing MI - 2012
Laredo TX - 2012
Lima OH - 2012
Medford-Klamath Falls OR - 2012
Monterey-Salinas CA - 2012
Rochester MN-Mason City IA-Austin MN - 2012
Topeka KS - 2012
Twin Falls ID - 2012
Wilmington ND - 2012


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:49 AM

Is there a typical time of year (or quarter) when D* adds locals. . . or do they simply show up whenever they show up? (Eager for Lansing, MI, HD locals.)

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 02:11 PM

Is there a typical time of year (or quarter) when D* adds locals. . . or do they simply show up whenever they show up? (Eager for Lansing, MI, HD locals.)

Bob


Do your homework: go to the TPN Map thread, open the Excel and look at the "LIL Market List" tab. That will give you the complete story, with the 'date-it-came-alive' date for each and every DMA.

Let us know what you discover!


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 03:17 PM

Thanks, gct. Didn't know such information existed here.

It looks like, for the last two years at least, there's little activity until June. The bulk of new HD locals begin to be added in June, followed by bursts in September and October. Yes, there's activity in other months too, but the majority of channels seem to follow this pattern, especially in recent years; before 2010, channels were added in almost every month.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 11:29 PM

All the markets listed go live on:

December 22, 2012

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 05:11 PM

This is a double post (also entered in the Bakersfield DMA thread) but of much significance to folks HERE.

The DIRECTV Website has just posted the following list of DMA's to be provided HD Locals for 2012:

Bakersfield CA - 2012
Bend OR - 2012
Columbus-Tupelo-West Point MS - 2012
Corpus Christi TX - 2012
Duluth MN-Superior WI - 2012
Eugene OR - 2012
Fargo-Valley City ND - 2012
Lafayette LA - 2012
Lansing MI - 2012
Laredo TX - 2012
Lima OH - 2012
Medford-Klamath Falls OR - 2012
Monterey-Salinas CA - 2012
Rochester MN-Mason City IA-Austin MN - 2012
Topeka KS - 2012
Twin Falls ID - 2012
Wilmington ND - 2012


This is such great news! I am tired of dealing with unreliable OTA (here in Eugene, the transmitters are in 2 locations, almost 180 degrees apart). This will make my life and cabling much easier to deal with. WAF also goes up a few notches.

I know it as been asked, but is there any time frame for when this will occur in 2012? I am planning on upgrading the OTA antenna for the living room, but would hold off if Eugene gets locals in Q1 or even Q2.

Also, I noticed that the majority of these markets are getting SD LIL from the satellite at 119. Wonder what plans they have for that sat?

I wonder what they are doing for Bend? There are only 2 or 3 channels out of Bend. They get ABC and CBS from Eugene. Probably just feed them those channels from Eugene?

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 05:16 PM

This is such great news! I am tired of dealing with unreliable OTA (here in Eugene, the transmitters are in 2 locations, almost 180 degrees apart). This will make my life and cabling much easier to deal with. WAF also goes up a few notches.

I know it as been asked, but is there any time frame for when this will occur in 2012? I am planning on upgrading the OTA antenna for the living room, but would hold off if Eugene gets locals in Q1 or even Q2.

Also, I noticed that the majority of these markets are getting SD LIL from the satellite at 119. Wonder what plans they have for that sat?


For NOW, nothing. The SD locals have to stay up there for SD receivers. Be interesting to see what they do when they FINALLY COMPLETELY convert to MPEG-4. Can't really picture WHAT they'll do though, since it's standard now for them to install the SL3 LNB. I know Dish Network has satellites there-they may just sell them off to Dish and concentrate entirely on 99, 101, 103.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:39 PM

KBVO, ch 51 in Austin TX, a myTV affiliate, is now available in HD. I think this just happened recently. This channel carries the Big 12 Network for basketball, and I recall just last week having to watch the channel in SD, but today it was also available in HD (two ch. 51's, one SD and one HD). Significant to me because they carry some of the U of Texas basketball games. The lineup in the OP still lists it as an SD-only channel.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:10 PM

KBVO, ch 51 in Austin TX, a myTV affiliate, is now available in HD. I think this just happened recently. This channel carries the Big 12 Network for basketball, and I recall just last week having to watch the channel in SD, but today it was also available in HD (two ch. 51's, one SD and one HD). Significant to me because they carry some of the U of Texas basketball games. The lineup in the OP still lists it as an SD-only channel.


Sorry, but as the EDIT on post #1 says, none of the Original Post #1 data has been updated since September, 2010. Everything is very much out of date. We hope to have other folks pick up this thread and bring it up to current status. That is pending.

You might watch the "TPN Map..." thread in the DIRECTV Tips and Resources Forum. That data is updated weekly. Even an Excel beginner will find a wealth of information here. And when anything happens in the LIL world, Doctor J will be there to let you know immediately.


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:41 AM

GOOD NEWS:
2012 HD LIL's may be coming sooner than expected:)

Columbus-Tupelo, MS
&
Wilmington, NC

HD LIL's are in *TEST
See gct's new TPN Channel map coming soon for details!

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 03:46 PM

Always good news to hear. Now about the "L" section of that list...




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