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#1 OFFLINE   cover

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 03:47 PM

Hi,

I'd like some help to understand what I would need to do to set up MRV.

Here's my current setup:

2 HR20-700
1 HR22-?

All three are located in the living room. All three have a standard Ethernet connection. All three are using the older two coax connections to the DTV multiswitch with BBCs.

I'm currently feeding 5 other rooms from these three DVRs using component video and stereo audio cables through a component video switch.

Maintaining and supporting this setup can be onerous, so I'd like something simpler/easier and considering just switching to MRV.

I think I understand that, at a minimum, I'd need a coax run from the DTV multiswitch to a receiver in each of the other rooms. I'd prefer not to have to run CAT5 to the other rooms, but could if necessary.

I've read about SWM and DECA but don't fully understand how or if this would work with my current receivers.

I'd appreciate any advice on what I'd need to set up MRV or any suggestions of alternate options that may be simpler and easier to maintain.

Thanks!

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:00 PM

Hi,

I'd like some help to understand what I would need to do to set up MRV.

Here's my current setup:

2 HR20-700
1 HR22-?

All three are located in the living room. All three have a standard Ethernet connection. All three are using the older two coax connections to the DTV multiswitch with BBCs.

I'm currently feeding 5 other rooms from these three DVRs using component video and stereo audio cables through a component video switch.

Maintaining and supporting this setup can be onerous, so I'd like something simpler/easier and considering just switching to MRV.

I think I understand that, at a minimum, I'd need a coax run from the DTV multiswitch to a receiver in each of the other rooms. I'd prefer not to have to run CAT5 to the other rooms, but could if necessary.

I've read about SWM and DECA but don't fully understand how or if this would work with my current receivers.

I'd appreciate any advice on what I'd need to set up MRV or any suggestions of alternate options that may be simpler and easier to maintain.

Thanks!


With your current setup they would change out the old 4 line LNB to a SWM (Single Wire) LNB. They would replace your WB68 multswitch with a 4 port SWM splitter.

1 line from each of the DVR's would be disconnected as they will no longer be needed.

A 21volt Power inserter will be added to power the SWM LNB.

All three receivers will get a DECA unit (Directv Ethernet Over Coax). This will use the already existing coax to create a network between your receivers.

Should you decide to add On Demand networked in, a seperate coax will need to run to your router and a deca unit be placed there.

What happens is the DECA units diplex or mix the ethernet in with the already existing coax. This creates a local network between your receivers that allows them to share recorded programs.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:55 PM

So the existing HR20s will work with the SWM?

I assume that I'll be paying for new receivers in the rooms that need them. Should I also expect to pay for coax runs, DECA adapters, the LNB, etc?

Thanks

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 05:08 PM

Also there is a whole forum dedicated to the Connected Home.
http://www.dbstalk.c...splay.php?f=137
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 07:45 PM

if all 3 are located in the living room, why would you want MRV?

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 07:54 PM

So the existing HR20s will work with the SWM?

I assume that I'll be paying for new receivers in the rooms that need them. Should I also expect to pay for coax runs, DECA adapters, the LNB, etc?

Thanks


The coax runs, DECA, LNB, etc are covered when you purchase whole home DVR. There might not even be a reason for you to buy new receivers; how many rooms would you like to be able to MRV/watch TV in? You can always cut that total by moving two of the HR's to two different rooms; with whole home it doesn't matter where the receivers are actually located. There's also the added benefit of Directv2PC, so having a computer can reduce your receiver total even further...

Edited by dsw2112, 18 July 2010 - 07:59 PM.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 09:00 PM

if all 3 are located in the living room, why would you want MRV?


I'd be moving 2 to other rooms and adding receivers in other rooms.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 09:04 PM

The coax runs, DECA, LNB, etc are covered when you purchase whole home DVR. There might not even be a reason for you to buy new receivers; how many rooms would you like to be able to MRV/watch TV in? You can always cut that total by moving two of the HR's to two different rooms; with whole home it doesn't matter where the receivers are actually located. There's also the added benefit of Directv2PC, so having a computer can reduce your receiver total even further...


So, my only up-front cost would be for additional receivers?

I'm looking at a total of 6, maybe 7, rooms. So leaving one existing DVR in the living room and moving 2 others to other rooms, I'd still need to add 3 or 4 receivers to cover all of them.

Thanks

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 09:14 PM

So, my only up-front cost would be for additional receivers?

I'm looking at a total of 6, maybe 7, rooms. So leaving one existing DVR in the living room and moving 2 others to other rooms, I'd still need to add 3 or 4 receivers to cover all of them.

Thanks


Your up-front costs (in addition to the extra receivers) will also include the whole home DVR install ($150), which includes the install, coax runs, DECA, etc. Some have gotten it cheaper, waived, etc... I'd call and see what they'll work out for everything.

P.S. You would still have the $3 monthly whole home DVR fee.
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 11:04 PM

So if you are looking at 3 or 4 new receivers in addition to the 3 DVR's you already have that puts you above 8 total tuners so a SWM LNB wouldn't be adequate. You would also need an upgrade to I'm guessing a SWM-16 multiswitch -- I'm guessing that would included in your install fee if you add several new receivers.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:44 AM

So if you are looking at 3 or 4 new receivers in addition to the 3 DVR's you already have that puts you above 8 total tuners so a SWM LNB wouldn't be adequate. You would also need an upgrade to I'm guessing a SWM-16 multiswitch -- I'm guessing that would included in your install fee if you add several new receivers.

Correct. When the number of tuners requiring support exceed 8...the SWiM16 is the recommended and typically-installed unit. The SWiMLNB dish works fine for up to and including 8 tuners.

The simple key - it's not the number of devices connected...it's the number of tuners. DVR's have 2 tuners, receivers 1.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 05:43 PM

So the existing HR20s will work with the SWM?


When I had MRV installed the installer replaced my HR20 after he couldn't get MRV to work. He said it was not compatible. But that was before he replaced my dish so it might have been the dish causing the problems and not the HR20. I read where others have HR20s in their MRV setup and they work fine. So I guess it depends.




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