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Selling my HR24, Where are the purchases stored?


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#1 OFFLINE   jackten

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:05 PM

I'm a former directv employee/customer and am in the process of selling my owned HR24 IRD. There are a few purchases on it. When I sell it, I'm not sending the access card, will my previous purchases show up on their bill when it makes its first callback? My question is, are the purchases stored on the access card or somewhere else on the receiver? Also, I have a TON of HD movies recorded on it also, will these work with their new access card or does that cause an authorization issue?

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#2 OFFLINE   dsw2112

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:11 PM

The purchases are stored on the access card. I might be interested in buying if you want to PM me.
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#3 OFFLINE   jackten

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:19 PM

Any idea about the recorded programs on the hard drive? Are those tied to the access card?
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:57 PM

Yes. The recorded content will be useless (present but not playable) with a new access card.

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 02:27 PM

How do you own a HR24?

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 02:31 PM

The purchases should not follow the unit, but the recordings might even though they shouldn't. If you want to erase them all, do a "reset everything" before selling.
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#7 OFFLINE   jackten

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 02:39 PM

Former employee is how its owned, all employee equipment is owned
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 02:49 PM

Yes. The recorded content will be useless (present but not playable) with a new access card.


Has anyone actually verified this? I know that recordings are locked to the DVR that they are recorded on, but they can't be locked to the access card because then everyone would lose all of their recordings if DIRECTV ever had to do a system-wide access card replacement for security reasons (which they haven't done in quite some time, but used to do every few years).

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 03:59 PM

I have bought DVRs with recordings on them that play fine after I get a new card. It is usually crap I don't care about though, but I have watched some movies that way. :)

I always do a reset everything when I sell a box. I also make sure the box has been hooked up to internet and phone for several days to give it one last chance to call home. If it doesn't call within a few days, consider anything that it hasn't called about free IMHO. If you really feel guilty about it, send the card back to the access card department and they will pull the rest of the charges off it, but I feel that if you give it a week to call in and it doesn't, then who cares? :)
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 04:01 PM

Also, how much are you asking for it? I might want another :D
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 06:49 PM

Asking 350 for it plus shipping, but that kind of talk probably shouldn't take place on this forum, PM me if you're interested.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:09 AM

Good luck getting $350.00. http://www.amazon.co...4/dp/B003LQIQU6

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:17 AM

Good luck getting $350.00. http://www.amazon.co...4/dp/B003LQIQU6

The HR24 in you link to Amazon is a lease. You don't own it and you have to return it DirecTV when you're done with it.

The one the OP has is an owned receiver. Instead of a lease fee, the monthly charge will be an "additional receiver" fee but you actually own the receiver.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:27 AM

i bought an owned dvr that had programs recorded on it. i also got a new access card from dtv. i guess the previous owner forgot to delete what he had recorded.


btw, i paid $250 for a 4 month old hr21 pro plus $10 shipping so i think 350 is a little steep. the 21 retails for 600, but the previous owner paid 400.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:30 AM

Even though you are an exemployee don't count on the box showing up as owned until you have checked with D*.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:47 AM

be prepared to share receiver id number with anyone who might wanna buy.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:55 AM

btw, i paid $250 for a 4 month old hr21 pro plus $10 shipping so i think 350 is a little steep. the 21 retails for 600, but the previous owner paid 400.


For quite awhile the HR21 pro's were selling for $200 new.

I would think many people would pay more for an owned HR24 than an owned HR21 PRO

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 08:14 AM

For quite awhile the HR21 pro's were selling for $200 new.

I would think many people would pay more for an owned HR24 than an owned HR21 PRO



i'd be interested to know when this happened because even now the cheapest i have seen these were $399 new. and sorry, i would take my hr21 pro over an hr 24 andy day.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 08:28 AM

It was about a year ago maybe. I remember because there was a thread discussing why someone would lease a DVR from D* for the same price that they could buy an HR21 PRO.

And there's no need to apologize, many does not equal YOU.


edit: Here's a link to a post, and I was off, it wasn't $200, it was $250:


Considering you can now buy the HR21Pro for $249, do we know that DirecTV is still selling regular the HR2x for an absurd price? That wouldn't make any sense at all.


I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 08:39 AM

thanks for the link. in any event, i've had my hr21 pro for over a year...no problems and i love it.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 09:10 AM

Even though you are an exemployee don't count on the box showing up as owned until you have checked with D*.


You have to tell Directv that it was Owned by the previous Directv Customer and they can check and see that it was Owned and then Flag it an an Owned DVR on your Account.

I had to call Twice to get this done after a CSR with the Access Card Department refused to flag it as Owned until I had to call and get another Customer Service Agent who was Experienced to put in my notes on my account (after she had verified it was indeed Owned by the Previous Customer) and then she transferred me to the Access Card Department where they read the notes and noted that it was an Owned DVR.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:10 AM

For quite awhile the HR21 pro's were selling for $200 new.

I would think many people would pay more for an owned HR24 than an owned HR21 PRO

I agree with you there. Given the choice, I’d take the HR24 for more money every day of the week.

Additionally, I don’t really see a reason to pay the extra money for an owned receiver. Speaking only for me, I don’t see an advantage.

  • I would prefer to plug in an eSATA drive rather than open it up (owned or not) so that doesn’t matter to me.
  • By the time I’m ready to drop it in favor of new model it won’t be worth much on the open market.
  • The “Additional Receiver” & “Leased Receiver” fee are exactly the same so I don’t save any money.
  • Owning the DVR will actually cost me more because of the higher price to acquire the receiver than the price to lease (which could be free in some cases...not usually but it has been known to happen).
  • Although the external enclosure adds cost to the drive it won’t offset the added cost to own the DVR.
Besides, I still have old receivers and two dishes laying around that I need to get rid of. If it’s leased, I return them and I’m done...except for the dishes. They don’t seem to ever want them back. :grin:

My 2¢ FWIW.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:17 AM

Former employee is how its owned, all employee equipment is owned


Umm... No it isn't.
You better double check twice.

All my equipment is classifed as leased.
I had to jump through a lot of hopes, to deactivate a D12 and hang on to it for testing purposes.

They actually did charge the non-return charge, because I didn't send it back in.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:56 AM

Well, all of my equipment was owned, even an H21 which was originally a leased piece of equipment, once it was activated on my account it became Owned equipment. I have seen my account and other employee accounts and all of the equipment i've seen has always been owned, as is this HR24. IMO, the HR24 is the way to go, primarily in terms of speediness. Scrolling through the playlist is SUPER quick and the guide can fly by too. Thanks for all the input, but I'm not sure we have a consensus or a test case on the recordings:

Does getting a new access card make the recordings useless? I can see how it would, as the access card seems to "do" the decoding, but it seems like there's some other opinions out there.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:59 AM

You better double check twice.


In other words, check four times.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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