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Selling my HR24, Where are the purchases stored?


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#26 OFFLINE   matt

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:01 AM

Does getting a new access card make the recordings useless? I can see how it would, as the access card seems to "do" the decoding, but it seems like there's some other opinions out there.


Like I said:

I have bought DVRs with recordings on them that play fine after I get a new card. It is usually crap I don't care about though, but I have watched some movies that way. :)


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#27 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:03 AM

Well, all of my equipment was owned, even an H21 which was originally a leased piece of equipment, once it was activated on my account it became Owned equipment. I have seen my account and other employee accounts and all of the equipment i've seen has always been owned, as is this HR24. IMO, the HR24 is the way to go, primarily in terms of speediness. Scrolling through the playlist is SUPER quick and the guide can fly by too. Thanks for all the input, but I'm not sure we have a consensus or a test case on the recordings:

Does getting a new access card make the recordings useless? I can see how it would, as the access card seems to "do" the decoding, but it seems like there's some other opinions out there.


Well if you are sure it is owned....
All I know is that mine (and most of my co-workers) all our equipment is leased, just like the customers.


As for the recording... just reset the entire box to erase the recordings.

Typically before you can switch Access Cards, the box has to dial in (or internet connect) to make sure all PPV has been charged correctly.

The non-ppv recordings shouldn't be tied to the access card, they are tied to the RID.
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#28 OFFLINE   jackten

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:06 AM

Earl,

Are you an HSP account type or a DTV account type? In other words, are you an installer working for an HSP or do you work for Directv itself? I know there's a BIG difference in terms of equipment and billing, maybe that's what the difference is. Mine was a DTV account type, and all DTV account equipment is owned equipment.
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#29 OFFLINE   gfrang

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:07 AM

For me lease is a win win except for the state tax i get charged each mouth.

I would never think of buying a receiver.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:09 AM

[*]Owning the DVR will actually cost me more because of the higher price to acquire the receiver than the price to lease (which could be free in some cases...not usually but it has been known to happen).


Not in my case. I have never paid anywhere close to the lease price, even with my HR24. I have bought 2 HR20s in the past for less than $50 each, along with several other steals and deals. Maybe after I am out of my first year the prices will get down to $100 and possibly free, but why bother to wait for that?

Because the hard drive may go out? Oh no! It's $20 for a leased replacement. If the one you bought works for years awesome, or if it only works for 2 days then you just leased a new receiver for the ~$50 you paid for the owned one, $20 for the card you needed, and $20 shipping. You just leased a DVR for ~$90; $110 off the normal lease price and $10 off a loyal customer discount. Sure, you extend your commitment that way, but who cares anyway? If I spend $100 or $200 on something I hope to use it for at least two years or I wouldn't have bought it.
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#31 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:09 AM

Earl,

Are you an HSP account type or a DTV account type? In other words, are you an installer working for an HSP or do you work for Directv itself? I know there's a BIG difference in terms of equipment and billing, maybe that's what the difference is. Mine was a DTV account type, and all DTV account equipment is owned equipment.


Yes, I work for Directv itself, and it is a DTV Account.
And the system that was just added to my account two months ago, leased.
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#32 OFFLINE   jackten

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:11 AM

Well, that's an error somewhere. I'm not sure if you have access to it in your position, but look it up in DORIS. Activation of any equipment on a DTV account makes it owned equipment.
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#33 OFFLINE   matt

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:12 AM

Earl, do you have access to DORIS in your position? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:12 AM

I'm not sure if you have access to it in your position,


:lol:

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:15 AM

Didn't mean to step on anybody's toes here, and I'm sure Earl does, but just something to look up if someone has access to it.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:15 AM

Maybe we should move this to the Laughter Is The Best Medicine forum because I find that post pretty darn funny! :D
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#37 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 11:18 AM

It's all good...

Just posting to make sure that you verify it is owned, not really trying to drag out DTV internal processes here. I don't have an issue with my equipment being leased.

If your's are flagged as owned... then I guess you are free to do with them as you wish.

Let's not worry about if I have access to DORIS or Doris either :) My wife may be reading this thread...
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:48 PM

Called Customer service and they confirmed All of my 6 Receivers all are owned by me, even the one which was originally leased (An H21 sent to my dad, which he didn't need, and I activated on my account instead) became owned upon activation.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:50 PM

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 07:31 PM

I was the one who purchased the Reciever and Directv had no problem activating it as owned. I called in advance and had Directv send a new access card. It arrived today as well. Everything went smoothly. I did proactively request the access card division when I called to activate it.

Thanks.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 07:44 PM

I was the one who purchased the Reciever and Directv had no problem activating it as owned. I called in advance and had Directv send a new access card. It arrived today as well. Everything went smoothly. I did proactively request the access card division when I called to activate it.

Thanks.

Jason Pollard


I hope you have the protection plan :)

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:59 PM

I was the one who purchased the Reciever and Directv had no problem activating it as owned. I called in advance and had Directv send a new access card. It arrived today as well. Everything went smoothly. I did proactively request the access card division when I called to activate it.

Thanks.

Jason Pollard


Glad to hear everything went smoothly.

I hope you have the protection plan :)


hahaha :lol: "oh the joys of owned equipment"
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 07:00 AM

Yes. I have the protection plan and it has paid for itself many times over. All of my HR20's were orginally HR10-250's. Over the years, Directv has swapped them all out after they failed with owned HR20's.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:32 AM

Yes. I have the protection plan and it has paid for itself many times over. All of my HR20's were orginally HR10-250's. Over the years, Directv has swapped them all out after they failed with owned HR20's.

Thanks.

Jason Pollard


That is one of the joys of owning equipment that people don't understand. I love owned stuff, and the PP makes it even better. :D
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:07 AM

Umm... No it isn't.
You better double check twice.

All my equipment is classifed as leased.
I had to jump through a lot of hopes, to deactivate a D12 and hang on to it for testing purposes.

They actually did charge the non-return charge, because I didn't send it back in.


Earl,
Did you have DIRECTV before you joined our team? If so i bet they did not go in and move the leased to owned.
When i was hired in 07' all my receivers showed up as owned since the day i was installed. Every ERP I have had was also swapped to owned.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:27 AM

That is one of the joys of owning equipment that people don't understand. I love owned stuff, and the PP makes it even better. :D

How does PP enhance having owned receivers (all mine are owned)?

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:29 AM

How does PP enhance having owned receivers (all mine are owned).

Mike


They stay owned when they break :D

Really though, over the long term of several years, PP isn't worth it.
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