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#1 OFFLINE   Direct-Albert

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 12:05 PM

I’m about to order a new external enclosure to add to my system taking advantage of the Tenbox closeout very tempting sale but I’m not sure which are the best HDD to use, I asked Tenbox vendor and they told me to use the HDD DirecTV recommends but since there are not bare drives recommended at the DirecTV site, only complete enclosures, I’d like to have some input from other users here.

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#2 OFFLINE   matt

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 12:07 PM

Western Digital EVDS has my vote. 2TB, WD20EVDS specifically, but smaller may work for you too :D
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 12:46 PM

I’m about to order a new external enclosure to add to my system taking advantage of the Tenbox closeout very tempting sale but I’m not sure which are the best HDD to use, I asked Tenbox vendor and they told me to use the HDD DirecTV recommends but since there are not bare drives recommended at the DirecTV site, only complete enclosures, I’d like to have some input from other users here.

Thanks
Al.


D* doesn't "support" any eSATAs. It "suggests" two eSATA setups that are only 1TB. For about the same price, you can purchase an enclosure and a 2TB WD EVDS HDD. I doubt if you can find a better HDD, at the moment, and I'm pretty sure the TenBox doesn't have them in their enclosures. What the TenBox does have is a ridiculously priced range of eSATAs that they or their vendors will happily sell you. The 2TB version goes for about $700. What do you get for all that? Little more, if anything at all, than the aforementioned enclosure + WD EVDS 2TB HDD.

We actually had the TenBox guys on the forum for a while, but they bailed out. Too pricey and their guarantee is not much different than that of several high end (but much cheaper) eSATAs.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 12:59 PM

If you don't have your heart set on TenBox, take a look at Antec MX-1 and Rosewill RX-358, they seem to be popular here.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:08 AM

Thanks to matt1124 and to rich584 for your input.

I read here about the Antec MX-1 and other cheap single drive enclosures, but those are not for 24/7 continuous use.
In my work I had problems with computer backup boxes overheating, it would not be safe to leave home with one of those
connected to my DVR and working nonstop.
With huge new drives there is no need for RAID boxes, but I like the RAID mirrored setting as it saves my recordings if one
hard disk fails. Professional high-performance storage boxes as those used in servers are safe too, but they are also noisy
and expensive, so I think the Tenbox enclosure at only $129 is a good choice now.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:33 PM

Thanks to matt1124 and to rich584 for your input.

I read here about the Antec MX-1 and other cheap single drive enclosures, but those are not for 24/7 continuous use.
In my work I had problems with computer backup boxes overheating, it would not be safe to leave home with one of those
connected to my DVR and working nonstop.
With huge new drives there is no need for RAID boxes, but I like the RAID mirrored setting as it saves my recordings if one
hard disk fails. Professional high-performance storage boxes as those used in servers are safe too, but they are also noisy
and expensive, so I think the Tenbox enclosure at only $129 is a good choice now.


Where are you getting them at that price and what is the capacity?

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:49 PM

Where are you getting them at that price and what is the capacity?

Rich


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Rich, I believe its a closeout, the $129 is the full enclosure assembled without HDD, it's at www.tenbox.net
It is a steal, I guess theyre not making them anymore.I purchased a whole Tenbox a year back and never a problem.

Regards
Al

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:28 PM

I love the 6 foot eSATA cable for $30. :lol:

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 05:58 PM

That's not a bad price for as nice as that box is.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 07:39 PM

...they told me to use the HDD DirecTV recommends but since there are not bare drives recommended at the DirecTV site, only complete enclosures, I’d like to have some input...

If you open up a HR2x, the HDD inside it is typically a WD. That kind of indicates that this is the HDD that they recommend.

I have had great luck with the EADS models (the EARS models do not work).
It's usually safe to talk honestly and openly with people because they typically are not really listening anyway.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:15 AM

If you open up a HR2x, the HDD inside it is typically a WD. That kind of indicates that this is the HDD that they recommend.

I have had great luck with the EADS models (the EARS models do not work).


Every 20-700 I've ever opened up has a Seagate in it. Can't speak about the 21 series. The EADS is a fine HDD, but the EVDS is even quieter. Some Seagates are quiet, some are noisy.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:16 AM

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Rich, I believe its a closeout, the $129 is the full enclosure assembled without HDD, it's at www.tenbox.net
It is a steal, I guess theyre not making them anymore.I purchased a whole Tenbox a year back and never a problem.

Regards
Al


Thanx for the info.

Rich

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:17 AM

I love the 6 foot eSATA cable for $30. :lol:

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Really makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Rich

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:58 PM

Every 20-700 I've ever opened up has a Seagate in it. Can't speak about the 21 series. The EADS is a fine HDD, but the EVDS is even quieter. Some Seagates are quiet, some are noisy.

Rich


Don't forget that the 20-700's are the original and oldest of the HR series. They might have gotten all their original drives thru Seagate and moved to WD later, say the next model or two after that, possibly due to reliability issues, or price point, etc...

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 11:26 AM

Every 20-700 I've ever opened up has a Seagate in it. Can't speak about the 21 series. The EADS is a fine HDD, but the EVDS is even quieter. Some Seagates are quiet, some are noisy.

Rich


My refurbished 20-100 has a WD in it.

Hooked a 1TB WD in a WD My DVR Expander to it and it's been working great.
I had bought an Antec MX1 to use, but never hooked the WD to my Tivo, so just used it instead.
Antec is hooked to the computer for now, might hook it to one of the HR21's though.


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