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Activations no longer available for receivers without an RID


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#41 OFFLINE   dmurphy

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 07:41 PM

Minor correction. If the legacy receiver without RID had been active on an account before, it is possible to reactivate on same account as long as it has an existing access card for that account. It cannot be added to anyone else's account (by selling or gifting, etc.)


Perfect.... Works for me. Thanks for the clarification!

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#42 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 08:05 PM

The only way this "eliminate MPEG2" effort will happen is when DirecTV agrees to upgrade customers FOR FREE with NO NEW COMMITMENT which may happen eventually. But there are a LOT of SD-only customers being installed daily and there are lots of other customers who have been long-term subs (like me) who have no intention of upgrading due to the 2 year commitment...and upgrade fee.


They can start by moving stuff like Sunday ticket to MPEG4 and other stuff that is not remaps like Full Court, Game Plan, some PPV EVENT's, Hot pass. Maybe later adult, HBO, SHOW, MAX, STARTS Some of the sports pack. PPV movies SD and EVENTS.
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#43 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:04 PM

They can start by moving stuff like Sunday ticket to MPEG4 and other stuff that is not remaps like Full Court, Game Plan, some PPV EVENT's, Hot pass. Maybe later adult, HBO, SHOW, MAX, STARTS Some of the sports pack. PPV movies SD and EVENTS.


Yup .. by inching their way out of the MPEG2 door folks (in general) will either move up or move on until the point DIRECTV decides to force the issue by providing free equipment.
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#44 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:05 PM

The only way this "eliminate MPEG2" effort will happen is when DirecTV agrees to upgrade customers FOR FREE with NO NEW COMMITMENT which may happen eventually. But there are a LOT of SD-only customers being installed daily and there are lots of other customers who have been long-term subs (like me) who have no intention of upgrading due to the 2 year commitment...and upgrade fee.


There are numerous Free TV options out there all of which have no commitment and work as good as or better than standard definition television. You don't even necessarily have to complete your commitment term with DIRECTV to come out ahead by switching to those options today.
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#45 OFFLINE   claymanhb

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:15 PM

I've been planning on keeping my old directivo for my new house. It's been activated before and directv said I can activate it any time.
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#46 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:40 PM

I've been planning on keeping my old directivo for my new house. It's been activated before and directv said I can activate it any time.


It looks like if you are going to be putting it back onto the same account it was on before that it should be OK, but more and more these older receivers will be banished from the system.
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#47 OFFLINE   LCollett

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 06:27 PM

I believe eliminating the HD fee for everyone would help in reducing the MPEG2 receivers in service.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:35 PM

After D* obtains a cheap MPEG4 capable SD IRD, with RF output (who knows when that date will be?)...they can start installing new SD subs...and replacing failing SD IRDs with the new box.

When they think they can quickly recover the cost to swap the remaining installed MPEG2 only base, it will happen.

But as others have posted...a simple D10 or D12 can work for a very long time...there are millions out there in service...and thousands of D12s in warehouses.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:41 PM

What ever happened to the D13 IRD? I see it show up on some documents about SWM but have never seen it? Is that maybe the transition receiver that we will see someday?

I bet there is a small enough market for RF only TVs that they would just give the customer an external RF modulator as opposed to giving every customer an internal built in one, but who knows, they could be super cheap to implement internally.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:03 PM

Are all MDUs HD capable now? That could be one of the tough areas to crack.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:10 PM

I bet there is a small enough market for RF only TVs that they would just give the customer an external RF modulator as opposed to giving every customer an internal built in one, but who knows, they could be super cheap to implement internally.


For "primary" TVs, yeah...I'd agree.

But, I think there are plenty of RF only sets still being being used/will be used as a secondary, tertiary, etc. service for quite a while.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 01:12 AM

Are all MDUs HD capable now? That could be one of the tough areas to crack.


Yes in our complex, but for DISH only. Our management does NOT permit tenants to get DirecTV even if the tenants wanted. In fact, they won't let anyone install dishes, telling everyone that "DISH is our sole provider of satellite service. We don't allow DirecTV installations or the installation of any satellite dishes here."

According to the management office, when someone who sees my big Slimline dish on my balcony, which conveniently is right across from management's office, then asks, "Then why does that person have a satellite dish?", the management office's response is, "He is grandfathered and can keep his."

There are 22 buildings in our complex, each with 20 units. If I had the ability, I'm tempted to print the FCC's OTARD regulations and somehow get these to every resident (our occupancy rate always hovers around 96%).

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 30 July 2010 - 01:16 AM

If I had the ability, I'm tempted to print the FCC's OTARD regulations and somehow get these to every resident (our occupancy rate always hovers around 96%).


On your dish where it says "DIRECTV", just change it with a little paint to say "DIRECTV.COM/FCC", tell your management that is the newest dish, and there ya go. :grin:
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#54 OFFLINE   Lord Vader

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 02:28 AM

Interesting idea.

;)

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 03 August 2010 - 12:58 AM

Dang, someone gave me an IRD without a RID today. :(
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 06:03 AM

Dang, someone gave me an IRD without a RID today. :(



I keep having this image of Sanford and Son when it comes to you and D* STB's....:lol:

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 06:30 AM

Beats me :shrug:

My guess would be 5-10 years out, though.

What's still MPEG-2? :scratchin

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:04 AM

Anyone know if the 'pull and pray' method still works, i.e. taking the smart card out of a subscribed unit and placing it in a non-rid unit and itting refresh services on the web site? Previously, this would activate your non-rid unit without ever having to involve a DTV CSR.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:29 AM

I keep having this image of Sanford and Son when it comes to you and D* STB's....:lol:


Sometimes I do have a bunch of them :D Why do people keep saying I remind them of sanford and son?! If I can make a buck on it, it probably is sitting around my house... or garage... or porch... or yard... or truck bed...
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#60 OFFLINE   Rich

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:41 AM

Effective 7/22, receivers without an RID (Receiver Identification) number will no longer be eligible for activation.

There a a lot of legacy receivers that you guys may have in the closet that fall into this category. In fact, I have one in my legacy TiVo (SAT-T60) however, it is currently activated and will remain activated. However, if I were to deactivate it, I would not be able to reactivate it on my account.

Minor correction. If the legacy receiver without RID had been active on an account before, it is possible to reactivate on same account as long as it has an existing access card for that account. It cannot be added to anyone else's account (by selling or gifting, etc.)

Sorry for being late on this, but I just got the tidbit today.


Is this going to impact all the old TiVos? I have a dozen or so SD TiVos and I think they have RID numbers.

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