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Water your pole revisited


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#1 OFFLINE   sstv

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 06:14 AM

Hi all
Awhile back, I posted about Sat signal levels going down when the soil near my backyard dish dried out and watering my pole would improve the signals.
The signals would never got back to where they were but was good enough.
Well, after a hot dry summer in Dallas, the signals got very poor and watering did not help much.
After a call to DTV, a DTV truck shows up with a with a tech that seemed to know his business and after a checkout of my pole, we decided to put the dish back on the roof. Goodby $75.00
Dallas soil is "black gumbo" and if it ever drys on your shoes, you have to throw your shoes away.
The roof mount works fine so I decide to pull the pole. A little side to side push on the pole and it pops right out of the ground.
Now I know why the pole was not stable. The hole was 21" deep, no belled out bottom and only 7" of concrete arund the top part of the pole leaving the bottom 14" of the pole with nothing around it.
My wife called DTV and they said nothing could be done because the pole was installed a year ago but they gave her 3 months of starz so its not a complete lose.
I should have kept a eye on the original install.
live and learn.:(

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#2 OFFLINE   hasan

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 07:03 AM

Hi all
Awhile back, I posted about Sat signal levels going down when the soil near my backyard dish dried out and watering my pole would improve the signals.
The signals would never got back to where they were but was good enough.
Well, after a hot dry summer in Dallas, the signals got very poor and watering did not help much.
After a call to DTV, a DTV truck shows up with a with a tech that seemed to know his business and after a checkout of my pole, we decided to put the dish back on the roof. Goodby $75.00
Dallas soil is "black gumbo" and if it ever drys on your shoes, you have to throw your shoes away.
The roof mount works fine so I decide to pull the pole. A little side to side push on the pole and it pops right out of the ground.
Now I know why the pole was not stable. The hole was 21" deep, no belled out bottom and only 7" of concrete arund the top part of the pole leaving the bottom 14" of the pole with nothing around it.
My wife called DTV and they said nothing could be done because the pole was installed a year ago but they gave her 3 months of starz so its not a complete lose.
I should have kept a eye on the original install.
live and learn.:(

SSTV
since :(94


Just a quick note. As I first read your post, I thought you were saying there was something about the soil that was directly impacting signal strength, and thought: no way. Sounds like voodoo to me.:)

What you were really saying was the mounting job was poor and did not properly anchor the pole, so it would stay in position. So what you really had was an unstable mount causing the dish to go out of alignment. It just took me a few seconds to process your description.:)

SSTV as a screen name? Are you really that big a fan of Slow Scan TeleVision? I know it's kinda fun, but really?

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 07:46 AM

Hi Hasan
If its digital, I like it.
I have been slow scanning for years and its been a Hoot

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#4 ONLINE   jimmie57

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 08:34 AM

Hi all
Awhile back, I posted about Sat signal levels going down when the soil near my backyard dish dried out and watering my pole would improve the signals.
The signals would never got back to where they were but was good enough.
Well, after a hot dry summer in Dallas, the signals got very poor and watering did not help much.
After a call to DTV, a DTV truck shows up with a with a tech that seemed to know his business and after a checkout of my pole, we decided to put the dish back on the roof. Goodby $75.00
Dallas soil is "black gumbo" and if it ever drys on your shoes, you have to throw your shoes away.
The roof mount works fine so I decide to pull the pole. A little side to side push on the pole and it pops right out of the ground.
Now I know why the pole was not stable. The hole was 21" deep, no belled out bottom and only 7" of concrete arund the top part of the pole leaving the bottom 14" of the pole with nothing around it.
My wife called DTV and they said nothing could be done because the pole was installed a year ago but they gave her 3 months of starz so its not a complete lose.
I should have kept a eye on the original install.
live and learn.:(

SSTV
since :(94


Your best bet would be to add a couple of supporting poles connected to the vertical pole, one pointed North or South, the other one pointed East or West.
The more support you have the better.

Having said that, a lot depends on the ground you have it stuck into.
I live in Texas City, TX and the ground here is mostly clay. It moves a lot when the ground dries out and then moves again when it gets wet. I have piers under the foundation all around my house that are bell bottomed and 12 feet deep and my house still shifts enough to make a couple of doors hard to open and close when it gets dry.

Bottom line: You need to be able to adjust the alignment of your dish for yourself because it will surely alway move a little bit and that is all it takes.

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#5 OFFLINE   Lee L

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 08:43 AM

Expansive clay soils are a pain. You would have to dig a pretty large footing to avoid any movement.


DirecTV, please don't make me have to go back to watching March Madness in standard Def! Oh, and the usual begging for AMC and BBC America. You are so close to actually being the HD Leader.




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