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#26 OFFLINE   dmurphy

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:34 AM

Ouch, that stinks.

I was thinking about getting one (or two) for a couple of reasons: 1. My wife likes to read in the evening while I'm watching TV, but neither of us like having the living room light on. 2. I was hoping to use it on flights without having to keep the overhead light on. Bummer.


It's actually a pretty nice thing, believe it or not.

Because it's not backlit, there are two benefits:

1) Extra-super long battery life.
2) Easy to read in sunlight.

My wife and I use this clip-on light at night. Works great.

Also, the best recommendation I can make is to AVOID the Amazon-branded case for the Kindle. It uses "hooks" on the left side to secure the Kindle, and it has the potential to crack the front of the Kindle if you open the case backwards. (This happened to my wife's.) Thank goodness Amazon's customer service is so good -- they replaced the Kindle overnight and gave me a credit to buy a different case. I use this case but there are plenty of others... just look for one that has "straps" to secure the Kindle to the case and doesn't rely solely on the hook system.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:35 AM

Actually a clip-on light works very well. Think about it. People have been reading non-backlit books for thousands of years without issues.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:49 AM

Yep, a clipon light would work well. Every little add on though is a hassle when traveling. I already carry a USB pouch, laptop camera, 2 external HD's, headphones, travel mouse, etc.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:11 AM

Actually a clip-on light works very well. Think about it. People have been reading non-backlit books for thousands of years without issues.

That's almost true. Not being able to read at night except by making sure you have enough candles and flints had to be a hassle. A clip-on light has to have batteries or a cord.

Just think how much smarter Amazon would have looked if they, with the introduction of the new models, simply had added a backlight that could be switched on and off. Then one could read in the bright sunlight, plus in the dark in bed without disturbing your significant other. Wonder if they'd pay me for that not original idea....:sure:

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:13 AM

Just think how much smarter Amazon would have looked if they, with the introduction of the new models, simply had added a backlight that could be switched on and off. Then one could read in the bright sunlight, plus in the dark in bed without disturbing your significant other. Wonder if they'd pay me for that not original idea....:sure:


that's exactly how I had assumed they worked.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:26 AM

Actually the e-ink technology of Kindles is totally different from LED or LCD technology as implemented in pretty much every other display device. It doesn't require power to keep the image active, only to change it. It's not a translucent mask over a background medium as LCD is. It's totally different. I do have a clip-on for my Kindle and I find that I use the clip on very rarely, where on the other hand I really enjoy the highly legible screen in almost every situation. I could never read an iBook over lunch, but a Kindle book is no problem.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:48 AM

Actually the e-ink technology of Kindles is totally different from LED or LCD technology as implemented in pretty much every other display device. It doesn't require power to keep the image active, only to change it. It's not a translucent mask over a background medium as LCD is. It's totally different. I do have a clip-on for my Kindle and I find that I use the clip on very rarely, where on the other hand I really enjoy the highly legible screen in almost every situation. I could never read an iBook over lunch, but a Kindle book is no problem.

Yes, reading habits, along with price, make the iPad and Kindle very different choices.

I rarely spend more than two minutes in direct sunlight nor more than five minutes in partial sun what with having fair Irish skin and a family history of melanoma. On the other hand I do like to read before going to sleep and I've never been able make clip on book lights work without disturbing my wife. My iPad is perfect in this situation, albeit a terribly expensive choice compared to the new regular screen size Kindle prices.

The irony is I have yet to buy a book from the iBook store - so far I seem to use the Kindle app and buy books from Amazon.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:56 AM

After browsing the current selection of books I can "e-borrow" for free from my library (and being the cheapskate that I am :lol:), I guess if I was going to pull the trigger on one of these, I'd go for the Nook simply because it's compatible with my library's Overdrive DRM system and the Kindle isn't.

I'm guessing that to stay competitive with Amazon, B&N will come out with a next generation Nook before Christmas. The Sony's are Overdrive compatible as well, but I'd be surprised if they came out with a comparably featured model that is price competitive. You never know, tho. :)
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:59 AM

So, my wife has several hundred books that she got online somewhere and usually reads on her laptop. Most of them are in pdf or word or pub formats, IIRC.

Can she use the Kindle for these? The Nook?


scanned PDFs are a pain in the ass on any e-reader; if they're PDFs with actual text in them it should work fine. If not, they're just big images and they don't scale so well for readability on e-ink.

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 10:41 AM

I'm in kind of the same dilemma. My wife is a huge reader and she does travel a decent amount for work, probably 15 times a year. Of course, if she finishes a book and has to buy one at the airport bookstore, they rob you and for your trouble give you a feee book. ;) After some skepticism, she has warmed to ebooks, at least for light reading.

Our library recently started lending eBooks and they are using the Overdrive DRM, so that is in favor of the Nook, though they only have about 150 titles right now, so not a huge plus yet.

On the other hand, the new Kindle is way thinner than the Nook, though even it is not that thick. Also, I do have an iPhone so the abilty to link th eKindle account could be good.

Another issue is we leave for a trip sunday Sept 12, so if I can't have the Kindle 3 by then, she will miss out on being able to use it when we fly for 5 hours both ways. They are saying ships by Sept 8th right now so I should jus tbe able to get it by Friday the 10th, but I hate to trust that without knowing if they have been beating their dates since a one day slip would probably mean it gets here while we are gone.

And finally, one thing I don;t know, is are there publishers with exclusive deals with one or the other? I don't want to buy her a e-reader and it turn out that she can't get some books that she wants because they are only availble on the other platform.


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Posted 10 August 2010 - 11:08 AM

So far, the only stuff that I haven't been able to buy on Amazon for my Kindle (that interests me) is the stuff I've bought on Baen's site (to say nothing of their incredible Free Library). Now, Baen is a mostly Science Fiction & Fantasy publisher so if that's not her bag, then there's no gain.

However, I *do* have to load the e-books from my laptop to my Kindle (via the USB cable) since they're not in on Amazon's Whispernet infrastructure. They come in the .MOBI format which is compatible with the Kindle.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 10:09 PM

Has anyone bought the new Color NOOK? I am trying to decide on an e-reader. I like the Nook's ability to share content with my laptop/Desktop. It appears from the claims, the Nook has twice as many titles available as the Kindle.

So, from the three choices, Nook, Nook Color, Kindle (WiFi) versions, any pro's or cons on any of them? I have two Barnes and Nobles close by if that makes a difference.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 10:47 PM

Has anyone bought the new Color NOOK? I am trying to decide on an e-reader. I like the Nook's ability to share content with my laptop/Desktop. It appears from the claims, the Nook has twice as many titles available as the Kindle.

So, from the three choices, Nook, Nook Color, Kindle (WiFi) versions, any pro's or cons on any of them? I have two Barnes and Nobles close by if that makes a difference.

I hate these beta vs VHS format wars.

From what I've read they both have about the same amount of content with the Nook claiming to have about 50k more, but with each have totals over 2 million titles. I haven’t seen anywhere that says Nook has twice as many titles. Can you give me a link. :shrug:

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Take all I’m about to say with a grain of salt because I have two Kindles in the house. :grin:

The Kindle can share content with my laptop/desktop/smartphone. When I connect the Kindle to my laptop I transfer stuff back and forth all the time. Additionally, when I’m reading on my phone, say at the doctor’s office, and then go home and pickup my Kindle it knows where I left off. You can go between all the various platforms and it will always know where you left off. However, if you have the Wi-Fi only version you would need to be near a Wi-Fi hotspot or your home network for this to work. I only have to pay for the book once and I can read it on my laptop, my Android phone, or my iPhone. The app is free for all platforms...I think.

I like to read in the backyard (faces south) and at the beach so the Kindle is a must for me. I’ve tried to read on a tablet LCD screen at the beach and I couldn’t get past the glare. I’ve never used the Nook so I can only assume it will fare no better than any other LCD screens in the sun. The ease of reading is really the biggest criteria for me. You’ll have to decide what’s most important to you and then decide which ereader is for you.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 01:17 AM

I bought my boyfriend a Nook for Christmas and he loves it! When I went to Best Buy the guy that helped me said most people prefer the Nook. My brother-in-law has the Kindle and has been very happy with it. I think both are great gifts!

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 03:17 AM

I bought my boyfriend a Nook for Christmas and he loves it! When I went to Best Buy the guy that helped me said most people prefer the Nook. My brother-in-law has the Kindle and has been very happy with it. I think both are great gifts!

I agree. :)

IMHO, it comes down to what features are important to you and then get what best suits you needs...personal preference.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 04:28 AM

I can say form personal experience that the Nook is the way to go. A friend has a Kindle but you are limited to Amazon stuff and can't run Android apps. I bought a Nook for my wife for Christmas and I wound up winning another in a giveaway in Feb. I have found that it is really easy to use and doesn't draw alot of power. With a snap on lite and a nice cover, it is a perfect companion that also will read a multitude of formats. Plus the Free Friday Ebook feature.
We both have the original Nook.

The Nook Color just had a software upgrade that now includes access to Android apps and in just a month, the B&N app store has had over one million downloads. And there is news of a new Nook Color coming out that will rival the iPad.

So with all this going for it, the Nook is the hands down way to go...

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 05:01 AM

Nook Color, all the way. I love mine.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:46 AM

I can say form personal experience that the Nook is the way to go. A friend has a Kindle but you are limited to Amazon stuff and can't run Android apps. I bought a Nook for my wife for Christmas and I wound up winning another in a giveaway in Feb. I have found that it is really easy to use and doesn't draw alot of power. With a snap on lite and a nice cover, it is a perfect companion that also will read a multitude of formats. Plus the Free Friday Ebook feature.
We both have the original Nook.

The Nook Color just had a software upgrade that now includes access to Android apps and in just a month, the B&N app store has had over one million downloads. And there is news of a new Nook Color coming out that will rival the iPad.

So with all this going for it, the Nook is the hands down way to go...


Library books are coming to Kindle. And isn't it more like the Nook Color can run Android apps B&N allows you to have? I believe you have to go through the B&N app store, they block the Android Marketplace unless you root it.

For me, I prefer the screen of the Kindle compared to the Nook Color.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:49 AM

If mostly going to be used outdoors, Kindle, especially now that it's going to become "library-friendly".

If mostly for indoor reading, Nook Color is a lot more useful, IMO, because it's an excellent media player as well as an e-reader and photo viewer.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 07:07 AM

Another happy Kindle user here. :up: I've not used the e-ink Nook but I imagine the reading experience is similar.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 07:55 AM

If mostly going to be used outdoors, Kindle, especially now that it's going to become "library-friendly".

If mostly for indoor reading, Nook Color is a lot more useful, IMO, because it's an excellent media player as well as an e-reader and photo viewer.

Just my .02.

I do have music on my Kindle that I listen to sometimes while reading but it's very rudimentary. There is no media player. You select play music from a menu and it will play music from a single file in the order you transferred them to the Kindle. It’s more like putting in a cassette tape and just letting it run.

It’s not very useful for anything other than some background music so the Nook has a real big advantage as far as that goes.

For me it’s about reading and not apps but if someone wants it to do more then the Nook is probably best.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:35 AM

My thoughts on this:

If you read outdoors very much either the Kindle or the Nook (not color) is the way to go. Kindle has a higher contrast ratio screen and the available cover with the built in light is super-sweet IMO. In addition, if you want to use either one in a pool, at the beach etc. I find the keys on the Kindle to be easier to find and easily actuate when the reader is in a plastic bag.

The Nook Color is very popular as a "poor-man's" tablet (no disrespect or slight meant to anyone!) because it's fairly easy to root and run a lot of Android applications on it. It would also be preferable for magazines or text books that included color diagrams. The battery life cannot compare to that of the Kindle or non-color nook (hours instead of weeks).

My wife and I both have the latest gen Kindle and she had a 2nd Gen one and we absolutely LOVE them. We have some friends that are equally enamored with their Nooks. I'm a big Amazon fan / customer so that helped with my decision, if you're more partial to B&N the Nook is likely a better choice.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:48 AM

It would also be preferable for magazines or text books that included color diagrams.


That is a good point, e-ink doesn't do graphics near as well as an LCD.

I had been an Amazon customer for years so Kindle was the obvious choice for me.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 09:01 AM

It depends on what you're doing. If you want to read books and (some) magazines and blogs, Kindle is hands-down, the way to go. Kindle's have batteries that can last a month. Using a Nook or other Android tablet is going to require much more frequent recharging.

That being said, if you want to play Angry Birds or watch movies on a tablet, get a tablet. The Kindle isn't made for any of that.

One side note - Amazon is supposedly releasing two Android tablets this year so you MAY want to wait. These are, allegedly, NOT going to be replacements for the Kindle. Only a color touch-screen e-ink would fit THAT bill and Bezos has said that the color e-ink technology isn't quite there yet. I'm guessing the Android tablets are a way to let Amazon play in that arena, get a foothold as far as market share goes and be a placeholder until some killer Kindle 4 comes out.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 09:41 AM

My misses has the Nook Color and loves it, she has a friend with a regular nook, but they can 'loan' some books to one another so that is a nice option.

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