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On which channels do you have audio dropouts?


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#181 OFFLINE   veryoldschool

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 07:54 AM

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#182 OFFLINE   DarinC

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 10:02 AM

I'm not much help, because as strange as it seems, I really don't watch that much TV (and much of what I do watch is broadcast TV, which I don't typically watch via DirecTV). But I did watch some Science Channel HD last night, and noticed them. Not NEARLY as bad as they were like a year ago. These were separated by minutes, rather than seconds.
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 03:52 PM

Recordings (not live):

Two most recent episodes on USA network of the following:

White Collar
NCIS re-runs
Covert Affairs
Burn Notice
Royal Pains

2 to 4 per hour, very predictable. Never less than 2, typically up to 4 per hour on every one of these programs. Duration: a couple words or so.

On the following TNT programs:

Glades
Memphis Beat
The Closer

No dropouts during all 3 episodes.

Lie to Me: Fox Network

1 episode, no dropouts noticed.

Science Channel:

3 Episodes of Zahi Hawass' Chasing Mummies, No dropouts at all.


All cases used the following equipment:

HR20-700 > HDMI > Onkyo SR605 > HDMI > Samsung 60" LED/LCD

I'm reporting on the dropouts only for the AVR. I don't listen to the TV speakers.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 05:22 PM

I have absolutely zero dropouts on my HR22-100, but what I do have ,and what D* refuses to acknowledge, is No Center Channel on the 101 network DD5.1 programming.

I've posted this issue in 2 threads, and only received one confirmation of the same issue.

I've got my HR22 audio out going coax to my Denon AVR988.
The input display shows DD5.1, but there is ZERO audio coming out of the center channel. Obviously, this makes following dialog a real challenge.

I have noticed intermittently, on some of the 101 promo's, and a C&W concert that was on in June( don't know who, 'cause I'm not a fan of the genre), the Center Channel does/did transmit.

Had a ticket open 4/29, and followed up for 2 weeks with no resolution.
I gave up the ghost.

All other channels' DD5.1 audio is normal.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 07:44 PM

I will admit I am no audiophile and I have no fancy sound equipment, but I have never noticed any audio dropouts on any channel ever. I have Dolby Digital 5.1 enabled and use a Sony sound-bar with the sub-woofer doubling as the receiver. I have an HR21/200 with HDMI connecting straight to the TV for video, but I am using fiber cables to the receiver for the audio.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 08:45 PM

Tonight I had 3 audio dropouts at the 15th, 26th, and 27th minute of The Colony on the Discovery channel. I saved this recording because I am going to be using it to compare the length of audio dropouts I have with a Pioneer receiver once I get it. (currently using an Onkyo and each dropout lasts about 3 seconds).

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 05:55 AM

Last Night

HGTV - Audio dropout associated with a slight picture stutter at 6:19 CST.

TBS - Meet the Browns - audio dropout @ 7:25 CST.

Science Channel - Wonder of the Solar System - audio dropout @ 8:15 CST.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 07:02 AM

Mets game last night on SNY, channel 639 at 8:07pm eastern time.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 07:14 AM

Noticed some last night, watching Covert Affairs (OAD 8/3) and Closer on USA and TNT respectively. 3-4 during each show, about .5 to 1 second in duration.

HR24-500 connected optical to a Yamaha RX-V2600 receiver. DD "on".

Edited by Steve, 12 August 2010 - 09:13 AM.

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#190 OFFLINE   veryoldschool

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 07:51 AM

Noticed some last night, watching Covert Affairs and Closer on USA and TNT respectively. 3-4 during each show, about .5 to 1 second in duration.

HR24-500 connected optical to a Yamaha RX-V2600 receiver. DD "on".

Caught two in Covert Affairs, @ the 2 min & 57 min marks.
Memphis Beat, TNT, had only one.
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:49 AM

Had them last night on HD rental of Bounty Hunter.
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#192 OFFLINE   Steve

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:12 AM

Caught two in Covert Affairs, @ the 2 min & 57 min marks [...]

Your post made me realize the episode I reported above was last week's Covert Affairs. Haven't watched this week's yet. Closer was this week's.
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:30 AM

The newer Denon was also connected via HDMI, not optical.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 05:40 PM

DROPOUTS ON VOD = INEXCUSABLE

Most of the non-pay VOD available isn't Dolby, but flat stereo; I've never heard any dropouts on it.

But today, I 'got around' to watching a VOD Dolby movie that was filled with dropouts every couple of minutes, throughout the entire 2hr film.

Absolutely inexcusable. Obviously ZERO quality control. Although the transfer mechanism (or actually whatever d/l system, both at their head-end and my HR) could be at fault, although that gets us into another area (that's even worse), programmers.

The film is 'Lifeforce', a Tobe Hooper classic, done between 'Poltergeist' and 'Invaders From Mars' (remake).

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 07:11 PM

Big Brother tonight, which is SD on NY Channel 2 had a number of dropouts.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 07:19 PM

CBS

Numerous dropouts during the Ravens-Panthers game. Maybe 1 second long and occurring nearly every 3 minutes.

Watching on a R10 receiver. Very annoying. This is the first time I've noticed this.:(

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:12 AM

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+1 on Warehouse 13, every episode lately.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 01:46 PM

Spoke to D*TV tech support this afternoon on another issue, and casually mentioned to rep that I've experienced audio dropouts on HD shows with DD5.1 on. Told him I had a service tech over a few weeks ago who downloaded a firmware upgrade, tightened my dish alignment, but had zero affect on the fixing the audio dropouts. Also said I learned via DBSTalk that the problem resides with audio codec compatibility with MPEG4 broadcasts.

Tech rep said he wished I had spoken to him. He acknowledged audio dropouts are indeed a problem and DirecTV is working on correcting them. He said the audio problems began when D*TV implemented a fix for audio level problems between shows and commercials. Seems fixing one problem inadvertently caused another. He also said he's experienced the same audio problems with his home theater setup in South Dakota. So he shares out pain.

He felt a permanent fix would be ready in a month or so, possibly sooner. I'm sure all of us on this thread would certainly hope so.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:21 PM

Spoke to D*TV tech support this afternoon on another issue, and casually mentioned to rep that I've experienced audio dropouts on HD shows with DD5.1 on. Told him I had a service tech over a few weeks ago who downloaded a firmware upgrade, tightened my dish alignment, but had zero affect on the fixing the audio dropouts. Also said I learned via DBSTalk that the problem resides with audio codec compatibility with MPEG4 broadcasts.

Tech rep said he wished I had spoken to him. He acknowledged audio dropouts are indeed a problem and DirecTV is working on correcting them. He said the audio problems began when D*TV implemented a fix for audio level problems between shows and commercials. Seems fixing one problem inadvertently caused another. He also said he's experienced the same audio problems with his home theater setup in South Dakota. So he shares out pain.

He felt a permanent fix would be ready in a month or so, possibly sooner. I'm sure all of us on this thread would certainly hope so.


I don't think the tech got it right. The drop-outs (non-HR24) involve the encoders (MPEG-4), which have nothing to do with the volume adjustments.
It was an interesting guess on his part, but far off the mark.

The part he had right is that D* knows about it an is working on a fix. The problem is a difficult one with no easy fix. I am confident that it will eventually get fixed, but it isn't going to be "real soon now". Try not to get your hopes up, and if it bothers you a lot, turn Dolby Digital off (in your sat box), which seems to help a lot of people hide the problem.

I like DD so much, I leave mine on, and tolerate the drop-outs (at least for now).

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:16 PM

VOS, how much longer do you need to post information? Hasn't what has been posted so far giving DirecTV any leads on the problem?

See post My Setup for configuration info.





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