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#26 OFFLINE   johns70

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:31 PM

To me for $6/mo it is not even a question. It's not like I am "savings" anything. I am pretty sure if I didnt have the protection plan I wouldn't be "saving" $72/yr. I just wouldnt be spending it on the protection plan. I'd probably be spending it on something else I didnt need.

To me it is worth $6/mo to know it wont be me on a ladder messing with my dish in 100+ degree Texas heat or running replacement lines, etc. Nor will I have to play CSR roulette hoping one of them will waive a fee that non PP customers should have to pay. When one of my receivers went down, it was a 5min call and a new receiver in 2 days.

To me the $6/mo is totally worth peace of mind.


Overuse of the phrase "to me" is intentional. It is my opinion. I realize some disagree.


To me I'd rather not spend $72 a year for something I don't use. To me it's like I am "saving" $6/month.

To me it's not a big deal to try to fix a problem myself. To me it's worth a one time charge of $50 for a service visit if I couln't fix the problem myself instead of $72 a year for DIRECTV protection money.

To me if one of my receivers went down it would still be a 5 min. call and I'd have a replacement in 2 days, and it would only cost me $20, no big deal. Having the protection plan doesn't make your DIRECTV phone calls go any faster or get replacement equipment shipped to you any faster.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:32 PM

To me for $6/mo it is not even a question. It's not like I am "savings" anything. I am pretty sure if I didnt have the protection plan I wouldn't be "saving" $72/yr. I just wouldnt be spending it on the protection plan. I'd probably be spending it on something else I didnt need.


Good point. I spend $6 a month on tacos, at least. Over the course of 10 years, that's $720 I have spend on tacos! :D

Still though, if your wiring was good for 10 years, which of course there is no reason why it can't be, your LNB needs an occasional replacement, and a few receiver swaps, over 10 years you wouldn't be anywhere near $720 in costs. Assuming you could fix things yourself that is.
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Posted 08 August 2010 - 10:59 PM

No.

Never wouldve used it in 7 years i have directv.

So saved $500+.



I've never had the need for it in my 10 years either, and I don't even have the ability to align a dish, replace an LNB, or replace Dish. I've just never needed those things done (nor have I ever had a receiver replaced). That's over $700 saved here (actually only over $600, cause I did have the PP for about 6 months once).

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 05:36 AM

Not really.

A service call is $50. I don't know what if anything they would have charged you for a new SWM, multiswitch, and a refurbished replacement HDDVR. Usually the $50 service call fee covers equipment. If they come out to replace some bad connectors they don't charge your $1.25 for each connector + the $50 service call price. If they would have charged you for the hddvr, swm, and a multiswitch most likey your home owners insurance would have covered it. You're probably already using your home owners insurance poilcy to replace all the other stuff in the house that was blown by a direct lightening hit.


Neighbor got hit, no pertection plan, took out LNB and switch 312.00 to repair. No she cannot "climb on her roof and fix it herself" she is 70 yrs old.

I have it simply becasue every piece of Directv equipment in my house is owned

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 06:16 AM

Lets see
Last year they removed dish from roof and replaced with ground pole,new dish and underground wiring for $59. Paid myself. This past month my HR20 took a dump. Tech came out and determined 1 line was bad also. He replaced dish with new SWM dish, SWM wiring to receivers and also gave me a HR24-100. Great tech! All was covered by protection plan. SWEET!!!!:D
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:10 AM

Lets see
Last year they removed dish from roof and replaced with ground pole,new dish and underground wiring for $59. Paid myself. This past month my HR20 took a dump. Tech came out and determined 1 line was bad also. He replaced dish with new SWM dish, SWM wiring to receivers and also gave me a HR24-100. Great tech! All was covered by protection plan. SWEET!!!!:D


Talk to anyone who works in sales and works on a commission basis, whether it be selling cars, selling appliances, or selling just about anything else, and the two sweetest words to his/her ears are the words "protection plan". A good car sales person can give a customer what appears to be a "great deal" on a car, and, while the customer is giddy over the deal, sell that customer an extended warranty that turns the great deal for the customer into a great deal for the sales person. Everyone I know in sales privately tells his friends and family to stay away from protection plans/extended warranties.

And what makes the thought of paying for the DirecTV protection plan especially hard for me to understand is that DirecTV policy seems to be such that you can get all of the same things that you can get a with protection plan (and, perhaps even more) free without the protection plan. In the last 3 years, I've replaced two SD receivers with 2 HD DVRs, added an additional HD receiver, had a dead HD receiver replaced, had a dead DVR replaced, had a SWM installation done, had the dish upgraded, had the dish pointing peaked, and had two extra lines line runs installed. I don't have the protection plan, and I have not paid anything at all for any of those upgrades or replacements.

Further, from reading posts on this board, it seems like it may even be easier to get an equipment replacement without the protection plan than it is to get one with the protection plan. I see threads where people with the protection plan have had their claims for non-functioning equipment denied. At the same same time, I see other threads where people have had a less strong case for replacing equipment, and they get replacements at no cost to them without the protection plan. That makes me consider the possibility that, in the bureaucracy of DirecTV, the standard for replacing equipment with the protection plan may actually be higher than that for getting a no charge replacement without it.

It seems to be the case, though, that people either come down on one side of this issue or the other, and nothing is going to change that position. There are many who believe that a protection plan is an especially high mark up item and that it is a good deal, not for the customer, but only for DirecTV. There are others can't understand why everyone wouldn't want to have the "secure feeling" that a protection plan gives them.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:32 AM

I don't want to discourage others from getting the protection plan. They have probably subsidized some of the free replacement DVRs I have gotten over the years. Just between us I think the money would be better spent getting high quality surge protectors like I have. Both my next door neighbors had most of their electronics wiped out a couple days ago by nearby lighting. I had no problems at all.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:55 AM

I didn't take the protection plan and figure that each month I don't have a problem, I'm banking $6 towards a future repair. After 23 months with no issues, that fund has grown to $138. So I have a reserve built up for a service call or to purchase parts. Although I have invested in a whole house surge protector and a UPS for each of my HR's. So I guess I really don't have the full $138 to spend.

With the help of the many experts on dbstalk if a problem arises, I feel that someone would help me troubleshoot my issue. I'm a do-it-yourself-er with most things, so for example if it was determined that my LNB was bad, I feel confident I could replace it. Although first, I would see if I could get DIRECTV to replace it for the cost of a service call. If that didn't work, then I would order the LNB and replace it.
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:38 AM

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:02 PM

Talk to anyone who works in sales and works on a commission basis, whether it be selling cars, selling appliances, or selling just about anything else, and the two sweetest words to his/her ears are the words "protection plan". A good car sales person can give a customer what appears to be a "great deal" on a car, and, while the customer is giddy over the deal, sell that customer an extended warranty that turns the great deal for the customer into a great deal for the sales person. Everyone I know in sales privately tells his friends and family to stay away from protection plans/extended warranties.

And what makes the thought of paying for the DirecTV protection plan especially hard for me to understand is that DirecTV policy seems to be such that you can get all of the same things that you can get a with protection plan (and, perhaps even more) free without the protection plan. In the last 3 years, I've replaced two SD receivers with 2 HD DVRs, added an additional HD receiver, had a dead HD receiver replaced, had a dead DVR replaced, had a SWM installation done, had the dish upgraded, had the dish pointing peaked, and had two extra lines line runs installed. I don't have the protection plan, and I have not paid anything at all for any of those upgrades or replacements.

Further, from reading posts on this board, it seems like it may even be easier to get an equipment replacement without the protection plan than it is to get one with the protection plan. I see threads where people with the protection plan have had their claims for non-functioning equipment denied. At the same same time, I see other threads where people have had a less strong case for replacing equipment, and they get replacements at no cost to them without the protection plan. That makes me consider the possibility that, in the bureaucracy of DirecTV, the standard for replacing equipment with the protection plan may actually be higher than that for getting a no charge replacement without it.

It seems to be the case, though, that people either come down on one side of this issue or the other, and nothing is going to change that position. There are many who believe that a protection plan is an especially high mark up item and that it is a good deal, not for the customer, but only for DirecTV. There are others can't understand why everyone wouldn't want to have the "secure feeling" that a protection plan gives them.


In my case it is a requirement - I own every one of my DVR's and recievers. without the PP I would have to replace them with leased equipment.

I spend more in one evening out with my wife and kids then what the PP costs me for a year.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:17 PM

I own two of my three DVRs, and I don't have the PP. So if one of the owned DVRs goes bad it gets replaced with a leased one. Is that really a bad thing? I can't see why it would matter. :confused:

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:34 PM

If you buy the DTV service plan , you have to wait 30 days before you can put in a service request?

Dish used to let you buy the plan and get the service tech out there the next day.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:39 PM

I own two of my three DVRs, and I don't have the PP. So if one of the owned DVRs goes bad it gets replaced with a leased one. Is that really a bad thing? I can't see why it would matter. :confused:


It depends, since you own them, you can de-activate and re-activate as you please without sending them back. With a leased unit if you send a HD-DVR back after deactivation and in 6 months decide you want it back, you have to pay $199 (possible to get it cheaper though) and start another 2 year commitment....not to mention should you decide to change providers, you can sell those owned rcvrs to recoup some of the $$ you shelled out for them, instead of just giving them back to DirecTV....I have 2 owned HR's, thats the only reason I keep the PP on my account, in case something should ever happen to one of the owned receivers, plus I've had a couple other receivers replaced under the PP and the no shipping costs is nice :D

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 02:12 PM

If you buy the DTV service plan , you have to wait 30 days before you can put in a service request?


Actually, a few years ago I had a workman trenching a water line and he damaged one of my cables and, of course, didn't tell anyone. I found it a few hours later and called D*. They gave me the option of paying around $70.00 for a service call or signing up for the Protection Plan right then and getting a free service call. I signed up and they fixed it the next day.

I then contacted the owner of the company that had the water line trenched and he gave me a $70.00 credit off my total charges from him and deducted it from the subcontractors pay. The subcontractor called and was mad. He said that he would have fixed it himself. I told him there was no way was that going to happen and that he should have paid more attention to his workers and definitely not have the worker hide it after he had done it.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 02:24 PM

unfortunately after 13 years of directv, there is no way i would be without the protection plan. the equipment (and related svc) is not dependable in the least. talk about the ultimate good & bad.....sadly, we have more then paid for our plan over the years. i look at it as insurance. since directv won't back up their own equipment at no charge if a problem (not incl user error of course), i'm essentially forced to pay them to back it up. one thing you might do if you don't want to get the plan, is setup an automatic monthly $5 withdrawal to a saving account. then if you have to pay for something down the road.....

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 02:56 PM

Neighbor got hit, no pertection plan, took out LNB and switch 312.00 to repair. No she cannot "climb on her roof and fix it herself" she is 70 yrs old.

I have it simply becasue every piece of Directv equipment in my house is owned


I do not have the protection plan and I had lightning damage back in May and they had to replace the multi switch and one DVR and all I paid was the $50 service call.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 02:56 PM

I own two of my three DVRs, and I don't have the PP. So if one of the owned DVRs goes bad it gets replaced with a leased one. Is that really a bad thing? I can't see why it would matter. :confused:


I can deactivate the one in my eldest room when she leaves for, put it in the closet and reactivate when she is home for vacation spring break or summer vacation and not affect my no contract state

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 02:58 PM

I do not have the protection plan and I had lightning damage back in May and they had to replace the multi switch and one DVR and all I paid was the $50 service call.


Directv is known for not being consistent on things, they replaced more then the multiswitch and one dvr for her

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 03:02 PM

I can deactivate the one in my eldest room when she leaves for, put it in the closet and reactivate when she is home for vacation spring break or summer vacation and not affect my no contract state


So you are paying $5.99 to save $5 and a contract? They should quit calling it "protection plan" and call it "contract protection plan!"
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 02:09 AM

I am a 37 year-old who is disabled and uses a walker. So, of course it was an easy decision for me.
However, before '04, when I was still climbing on rooftops, I chose to live without it. Now that I have 4 DVRs, I think I would carry it regardless of my health.
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:12 AM

Actually, a few years ago I had a workman trenching a water line and he damaged one of my cables and, of course, didn't tell anyone. I found it a few hours later and called D*. They gave me the option of paying around $70.00 for a service call or signing up for the Protection Plan right then and getting a free service call. I signed up and they fixed it the next day.

I then contacted the owner of the company that had the water line trenched and he gave me a $70.00 credit off my total charges from him and deducted it from the subcontractors pay. The subcontractor called and was mad. He said that he would have fixed it himself. I told him there was no way was that going to happen and that he should have paid more attention to his workers and definitely not have the worker hide it after he had done it.


The CSR told me specifically that the Protection Plan doesn't cover incidents like that, where a contractor or gardener damages the lines or DTV equipment. She said it is mainly to re-aim the dish and replace the receiver, not to fix other people's accidents. I guess it depends who you speak to and what sort of mood they are in.

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:29 AM

The CSR told me specifically that the Protection Plan doesn't cover incidents like that, where a contractor or gardener damages the lines or DTV equipment. She said it is mainly to re-aim the dish and replace the receiver, not to fix other people's accidents. I guess it depends who you speak to and what sort of mood they are in.


I call baloney on that. D* specifically sets people up for accidents so they can sell them the service plan. Think I'm crazy? Go look at the pole mounts done in your city. Direct bury flooded cable? Nope, not even in the warehouse, much less the truck. Some of that flexible conduit to put in the trench and up the pole and house a little bit so you can weed-eat and not slice a cable and let in water or just plain cut it in half? Nope, what's a conduit anyway? In fact, you should have seen the surprise on the tech that did my parents install when he just had to push his wire through the pipe I trenched to the pole. :grin: We had the discussion I just typed above and he agreed. :D
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 09:08 AM

So you are paying $5.99 to save $5 and a contract? They should quit calling it "protection plan" and call it "contract protection plan!"


no I am paying 5.99 a month to insure that ALL my directv equipment retains the designation of OWNED. Have gone from HR10's HR20's, 21, and 23's all of which are still marked as OWNED, all of which do not extend the contract if I discontinue one , nor do I have to send it back if I disontinue the unit. Eventually will get a HR24 when one of the old ones dies and I get it replaced under the Protection Plan, pretty good chance of it if I go to MRV

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 09:57 AM

The CSR told me specifically that the Protection Plan doesn't cover incidents like that, where a contractor or gardener damages the lines or DTV equipment. She said it is mainly to re-aim the dish and replace the receiver, not to fix other people's accidents. I guess it depends who you speak to and what sort of mood they are in.


The fact remains they covered it and I was truthful with them when I discussed the problem and the various steps I took to isolate and find the problem.

Also, I suspect that the average customer wouldn't have traced the problem and gone through the steps to isolate it. They would have simply said that the service isn't working and we need it fixed. That would result in a truck roll and the guy on the truck would probably fix the damaged cable and be on his way to the next call.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 03:29 PM

New D* customer as of 10 minutes ago.
Installer just left. After everything was done he asked if I knew about protection plan.. I said yes but do not plan on getting it right now.
He said that without protection plan, I would pay full retail for "anything" that happened to receiver..even if they just quit working a month from now.
Example: He said a lady had a 4 receiver setup and lighting hit dish and smoked all receivers.. he said she had to pay $1400 to replace everything..
I said bullsh*t..they can kiss my *ss . I do not own those receivers, if they quit working, I expect a new one. I'll pay shipping no problem




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