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#1 OFFLINE   gordo80

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 11:50 PM

Besides Fry's and Best Buy where else can I get 3D TV for a good deal. Fry's had the unc557000 series for $2263 with the starter kit. I miss out on that deal.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 07:55 AM

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 08:07 AM

I got a great deal on Amazon. Shipped free and got the glasses thrown in with the BD player.
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:31 AM

Fry's, Best Buy, Amazon, HHGregg, Costco, Sams Club, Sixth Avenue....pretty much anywhere that sells TV's.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:49 AM

I''d add Cleveland Plasma.
https://clevelandplasma.com/
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 03:26 PM

Whatever you do don't purchase from a local dealer.:D

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 04:30 PM

My local dealer told me that he didn't sell plasma because "everybody knew they were no good":) My local Best Buy (45 miles away) can't keep a pair of glasses to even demo the Panasonic (stolen, broken, etc). Pretty discouraging shopping on the local scene.
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 04:39 PM

Check out Video Only if there's one in the area.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 05:39 PM

Sears too.
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 07:21 PM

Check out Video Only if there's one in the area.


Sears too.

Thanks guys, but no Video Only in my area, and Sears doesn't even have the Panasonic VT25;s on their website.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:53 AM

Our local Sears had demos setup with the Samsung and Sony 3-D models.
The Sony looked just as good as the Panasonic I saw demoed at Best Buy. The Samsung only has an animated demo, which I wasn't crazy about. The Sony had some good demo material, which included ESPN's 3-D channel. It looked surprisingly good.........
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:46 AM

The Sony looked just as good as the Panasonic I saw demoed at Best Buy. The Sony had some good demo material, which included ESPN's 3-D channel. It looked surprisingly good.........


Just don't tilt your head when watching 3D on the Sony. I saw it at my BB and you must keep your head erect at all times - any tilt and you lose the 3D.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:47 AM

Our local Sears had demos setup with the Samsung and Sony 3-D models.
The Sony looked just as good as the Panasonic I saw demoed at Best Buy. The Samsung only has an animated demo, which I wasn't crazy about. The Sony had some good demo material, which included ESPN's 3-D channel. It looked surprisingly good.........


Just don't tilt your head when watching 3D on the Sony. I saw it at my BB and you must keep your head erect at all times - any tilt and you lose the 3D.


I've got a Mits DLP and I haven't see the tilt your head problem, I can lay down on the couch and still see 3D.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 10:30 AM

Besides Fry's and Best Buy where else can I get 3D TV for a good deal. Fry's had the unc557000 series for $2263 with the starter kit. I miss out on that deal.


I also got the UN55C7000 with the free Starter Set and free 3D Blu-Ray player from Amazon.com for what I think was a great price. It was around $2200, but you have to add the TV to your cart to see the price so it may have changed.

It was tricky getting the free stuff though. You have to add all three items to your cart to get the Starter Set and player for free. Originally, when I did that, Amazon's site added the player from a different vendor than Amazon. So, it wasn't free. I caught the problem just in the nick of time. Make sure you're adding the offers from Amazon.com to the cart.

So, far I'm really pleased with the TV. The picture is excellent once you fix the settings (see one of the web sites with recommended settings). The sound isn't very good, but I run my audio through a stereo receiver.

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 03:52 PM

BestBuy had the 50" VT20 with free Bluray 3d player ($399 value) or the VT25 54" for $2499 (but no player) last week. Not sure if its still on but you should check. VT25 is only available thru Magnolia stores but they can write them up through consultations if you don't want to drive to the Magnolia store which is what I did.

I went with the 54" VT25 and when I told them no service agreement they said if I purchased a $250 2yr agreement they would give me a free set of glasses (worth $150). Figured what the heck cause I would need glasses anyway. Waiting on my free 3D movies from panasonic as well through mail in form and new HR DVR from D* next week to support 3d but demo disc is great!!!

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 02:04 PM

Just pull the trigger on a LED 8000 55" at best buy. They met fry's discount so I was happy with the discount. Plus I got the free blu ray 3D and the glasses. Thanks for all of you guys help.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:05 PM

Try Ultimate Electronics they might deal with you.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 01:41 AM

Update: Toshiba is now in the process of making the first 3D that's glasses free.
Yes 3D fans. Toshiba is hoping to have the TV on the shelves for Christmas. But the deal breaker for some will be the real high price for the sets.
We're talking the thousand and up range minimum.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 08:16 AM

Update: Toshiba is now in the process of making the first 3D that's glasses free.
Yes 3D fans. Toshiba is hoping to have the TV on the shelves for Christmas. But the deal breaker for some will be the real high price for the sets.
We're talking the thousand and up range minimum.

As compared to a $600 television and $400 worth of glasses?

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:28 AM

Update: Toshiba is now in the process of making the first 3D that's glasses free.
Yes 3D fans. Toshiba is hoping to have the TV on the shelves for Christmas. But the deal breaker for some will be the real high price for the sets.
We're talking the thousand and up range minimum.


The technology has been around for some time. I first saw a lenticular 3D TV sometime around 1988. Toshiba is using a newer technology, but it works in a similar way.

The advantage to the TVs with the active shutter glasses, is that there is not much of a compromise made to the 2D display to support 3D or the 3D display to also support 2D.

But, the lens added to the front of the display for the glassless TVs is always there, even when you watch 2D. The lens adds to the cost of the TV and may affect the picture even if you watch only 2D programs.

The viewing angle is reduced in 3D mode on a glassless TV. For the lenticular system, you have to view it directly from the front. Toshiba says their "bi-directional lens" system offers a wider viewing angle. We'll have to see.

Also, I suspect the cost and complexity of the added lens will mean the technology will be available only on smaller TVs at first.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:51 PM

I am about to pull the trigger on the Samsung UN55C8000 and the blu ray / 3d starter kit from Amazon (likely). Only other tested etailer at a good price is buy.com but I don't see that they are doing the bundle offer.

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I currently have a hr21-700 that I am going to connect the tv to. Any issues here?

I will be replacing the hr21-700 with a 24 series HD-DVR in the coming month. Any issues here?

I see a Sony XBR LED (52") that looks interesting. Same for a LG. I don't see LG in the DTV compatibility list for 3D. Any comments on either of these?

Any issues with the Samsung and 2D HD or 3D HD video?

Any reason to consider the 7000 series instead of the 8000?

Thanks for your opinions!!
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 09:33 AM

I am about to pull the trigger on the Samsung UN55C8000 and the blu ray / 3d starter kit from Amazon (likely). Only other tested etailer at a good price is buy.com but I don't see that they are doing the bundle offer.

Questions -

I currently have a hr21-700 that I am going to connect the tv to. Any issues here?

I will be replacing the hr21-700 with a 24 series HD-DVR in the coming month. Any issues here?

I see a Sony XBR LED (52") that looks interesting. Same for a LG. I don't see LG in the DTV compatibility list for 3D. Any comments on either of these?

Any issues with the Samsung and 2D HD or 3D HD video?

Any reason to consider the 7000 series instead of the 8000?

Thanks for your opinions!!


First, I'd suggest that you check Best Buy and PC Richard to see what their pricing would be before buying online. If their prices are competitive, buy through them rather than online. The shipping charges might come close to the sales tax. Best Buy has been running a bundle that includes free shipping, installation and haul away of old TV's. My son in Dallas took advantage of BB's deal, although he and I took care of the actual cabling, etc. He's quite happy with the 800's performance, including the capability of providing simulated 3D with 2D movies.

Remember that a 3D TV is a major investment that you'll want to live with for years to come. Definitely go for a bundle, whatever you brand you buy.

A key element of an installation of a 3D TV is the HDMI cable between the DVD player and the TV, which must be capable of passing 3D content It's not necessary that it be fully HDMI 1.4 compliant. Don't be suckered into buying a Monster cable to do the job. We found a Vizio flat Ultra High Speed HDMI cable that does the job just fine.
I'm not at all familiar with DirecTV's receivers, so can't give you advice on their performance other than the HDMI cable.
If you compare the features of the 7000 and 8000, you'll probably be happier with the 8000. Not the least of the 8000's advantages is the slimness of the receiver.

Aside from the Samsung models, the ONLY other 3D receivers I'd consider would be the Panasonic plasmas, which have better blacks, and quite possibly better 2D picture quality. At this time, the Panasonic receivers are the standard by which others are judged.

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 09:49 AM

Thanks for your response. However, I'm quite well seasoned in purchasing electronics and where from. Realizing sales tax and delivery charges add to the bottom line price, I often do not purchase from retail. I find resellers like Amazon (I'm a Prime member) and Buy.com offer free 'white glove' delivery and no sales tax. The local retailers often match the price but won't lower the price to compensate for the sales tax they will charge. Right now, the bundle offered via Amazon

I am also quite comfortable with cabling requirements and quality. Monster is a completely overrated product pushed by the big box retailers. Most of the interconnects I use are of high quality and price. I have had a formal theater at a prior home with over $50k in equipment. This situation that I'm putting together is quite a bit different in price point and I realize what I'm likely to get with mid-level products.

The question in comparing the 7000 and the 8000 series is based on my understanding that the lighting situation varies between the two and haven't been as comfortable with LED technology as I have only owned front projection DLP and now LCD. I've seen various opinions on backlighting versus edge / side lighting.

Re: long term investment, 3D is a secondary requirement here but I still would like to make sure the interoperability of the equipment I choose is correct. I realize DirecTV has a short list of output devices (TVs) that they will support, mostly Panasonic, Sony and Samsung. I was interested in the various hands on experience individuals have had with these products and the 21-700 and 24-xxx series set top boxes.

Thanks again for your response. I'm still seeking additional input.

Regards,
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First, I'd suggest that you check Best Buy and PC Richard to see what their pricing would be before buying online. If their prices are competitive, buy through them rather than online. The shipping charges might come close to the sales tax. Best Buy has been running a bundle that includes free shipping, installation and haul away of old TV's. My son in Dallas took advantage of BB's deal, although he and I took care of the actual cabling, etc. He's quite happy with the 800's performance, including the capability of providing simulated 3D with 2D movies.

Remember that a 3D TV is a major investment that you'll want to live with for years to come. Definitely go for a bundle, whatever you brand you buy.

A key element of an installation of a 3D TV is the HDMI cable between the DVD player and the TV, which must be capable of passing 3D content It's not necessary that it be fully HDMI 1.4 compliant. Don't be suckered into buying a Monster cable to do the job. We found a Vizio flat Ultra High Speed HDMI cable that does the job just fine.
I'm not at all familiar with DirecTV's receivers, so can't give you advice on their performance other than the HDMI cable.
If you compare the features of the 7000 and 8000, you'll probably be happier with the 8000. Not the least of the 8000's advantages is the slimness of the receiver.

Aside from the Samsung models, the ONLY other 3D receivers I'd consider would be the Panasonic plasmas, which have better blacks, and quite possibly better 2D picture quality. At this time, the Panasonic receivers are the standard by which others are judged.


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Posted 31 August 2010 - 09:57 AM

Concerning the HDMI cable requirement for 3D from their receivers to 3D TV's, saw this in a tech bulletin:

HDMI Cable Category 1 & 2 will pass 3D video from the DIRECTV receiver to the compliant and tested 3D TV. Current DIRECTV HDMI cables are 3D compatible.


Also saw another tip which was if the cable in use now works for 1080p programming then it will work for 3D from DirecTV.

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 01:38 PM

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