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DirecTV & Dish Network HD Channel Lineup Comparison


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#301 OFFLINE   harsh

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 11:32 PM

I guess that means Direct passed Dish with HD premiums 27-29.

If you count the SPORTS PACK premium package (occupying 27 full-time channels), that happened a long time ago.

On the commercial-free movie channel front, DISH perhaps still has an edge with Pixl, Epix, Epix2, Retroplex and Indieplex in their Platinum package.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 07:03 AM

If you count the SPORTS PACK premium package (occupying 27 full-time channels), that happened a long time ago.

On the commercial-free movie channel front, DISH perhaps still has an edge with Pixl, Epix, Epix2, Retroplex and Indieplex in their Platinum package.


I'm looking at the official line up posted at top of this thread for premium movie channels that has nothing to do with sports channels. Last time it was updated was 3-10 so with the 5 new premium movie channels added yesterday Direct jumps Dish. (29-27)
Also the line-up includes counting Pixl, Epix, Epix2, Retroplex and Indieplex for Dish.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:08 AM

I'm looking at the official line up posted at top of this thread for premium movie channels that has nothing to do with sports channels.

Official Hoosier205 list, yes. Official DBSTalk, DIRECTV, DISH Network, etc., no.

As a reference point, it can certainly be used if explicitly referenced.

Also the line-up includes counting Pixl, Epix, Epix2, Retroplex and Indieplex for Dish.

DISH's Platinum HD is not technically a Premium package as it isn't included in their top-level package and doesn't qualify for multiple Premium Channel discounting.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:53 AM

Official Hoosier205 list, yes. Official DBSTalk, DIRECTV, DISH Network, etc., no.

As a reference point, it can certainly be used if explicitly referenced.DISH's Platinum HD is not technically a Premium package as it isn't included in their top-level package and doesn't qualify for multiple Premium Channel discounting.


WHAT???? I have no clue what your beef is, facts are Directv has more Premium HD movie channels offered now. So what? I said there up by 2 premiums by the list reported on this site and your making a issue out of it.
If you want to believe Dish has more premiums, feel free.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 06:59 PM

A reminder ...

This is NOT a thread to attack either provider or other members.


That being said: with this week's DirecTV additions, the count is DISH 23 DirecTV 31 for premiums (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, Starz, Encore).

The count is DISH 88 DirecTV 70 for non-RSN basics (although there are arguably some sports channels in that count - and the Platinum/Extra channels).

Overall: DISH 134, DirecTV 169 as a full time HD channel count. Under DirecTV rules they counted only full time channels. Adding 3D and distant networks (services that are not widely distributed) makes the "score" 138 to 180.

Of course if your favorite channels are not part of your provider's number the number really doesn't matter. Which is why the comparisons in this thread are MORE than a simple number. The charts provided give a bigger picture than any simple number could.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:38 PM

I finally updated the list. I lost the file to a HDD failure and had to start from scratch.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 08:39 PM

Hoosier, great job. I noticed a few things that, I believe, need to be updated:
1- Dish no longer carries SNY - they are in a contract dispute with SNY.
2- Dish has never carried either MSG or MSG+ in HD, not even in a part-time basis.
3- Dish carries GSN in HD.
4- Wedding Channel is about to fold, if it hasn't folded already.
5- Nascar Hot Pass and NFL Sunday ticket temporary contract disputes with DIsh? I Don't believe so, I think dish doesn't carry it, period.
6- You may also add ESPN Deportes HD to your list. Time Warner in NYC, for instance, carries it.
7- DIsh no longer carries WFN in HD... it was dropped when DIsh decided to start carrying...
8- Dish carries Veria in HD.
9- Finally, list is missing Telemundo HD, ION HD, ABC Live Well HD, which neither Dish nor Directv carries.

That's what my tired eyes were able to see today :-) Again, great job!

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 09:37 PM

Hoosier, great job. I noticed a few things that, I believe, need to be updated:
1- Dish no longer carries SNY - they are in a contract dispute with SNY.
2- Dish has never carried either MSG or MSG+ in HD, not even in a part-time basis.
3- Dish carries GSN in HD.
4- Wedding Channel is about to fold, if it hasn't folded already.
5- Nascar Hot Pass and NFL Sunday ticket temporary contract disputes with DIsh? I Don't believe so, I think dish doesn't carry it, period.
6- You may also add ESPN Deportes HD to your list. Time Warner in NYC, for instance, carries it.
7- DIsh no longer carries WFN in HD... it was dropped when DIsh decided to start carrying...
8- Dish carries Veria in HD.
9- Finally, list is missing Telemundo HD, ION HD, ABC Live Well HD, which neither Dish nor Directv carries.

That's what my tired eyes were able to see today :-) Again, great job!


Thanks for the list! I knew I would make a few mistakes having to start over like that. I will update again tomorrow.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 10:29 AM

One other correction-CSN California HD isn't carried full-time on Dish Network. Like all other HD RSN's, on Dish Network, it's only carried part-time.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 12:42 PM

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 04:26 PM

Very nice job Hoosier,

Here is just a few other minor updates that you can do whenever you have time:

HD channels that are available and no longer TBD:
  • Africa Channel
  • FearNet
  • Fox Movie Channel
  • Sprout
  • Sho Beyond West
  • Sho Next West
  • Sho Women West

Fox Sports en Espanol is now Fox Deportes and its available in HD

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  • Encore Action
  • Encore Drama

Pentagon Channel is launching in HD Sept. 2011

Disney Junior is launching in HD sometime in 2012

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 05:05 PM

Hoosier, you're counting 1 channel twice. CSN West (originally a game only subfeed of CSN Bay Area) changed its name to CSN California (now a 24 hour channel) a couple of years ago. CSN West should therefore be deleted.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 05:47 PM

Hoosier, you're counting 1 channel twice. CSN West (originally a game only subfeed of CSN Bay Area) changed its name to CSN California (now a 24 hour channel) a couple of years ago. CSN West should therefore be deleted.


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Posted 12 July 2011 - 05:49 PM

Very nice job Hoosier,

Here is just a few other minor updates that you can do whenever you have time:

HD channels that are available and no longer TBD:

  • Africa Channel
  • FearNet
  • Fox Movie Channel
  • Sprout
  • Sho Beyond West
  • Sho Next West
  • Sho Women West

Fox Sports en Espanol is now Fox Deportes and its available in HD

Launching in HD Aug. 1, 2011
  • Encore Action
  • Encore Drama

Pentagon Channel is launching in HD Sept. 2011

Disney Junior is launching in HD sometime in 2012


Thank you
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 03:06 PM

A few more items for the next update:

1. The counts at the top of the table don't add down
2. CBS College Sports s/b CBS Sports Network
3. Sony HD s/b Sony Movie Channel
4. Cox Sports New Orleans s/b resorted (did it used to be an FSN?)

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:13 AM

A few more items for the next update:

1. The counts at the top of the table don't add down
2. CBS College Sports s/b CBS Sports Network
3. Sony HD s/b Sony Movie Channel
4. Cox Sports New Orleans s/b resorted (did it used to be an FSN?)


Thanks. I'll work on it in just a little bit.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:06 PM

Apparently, there is no actual definition of what an HD "Channel" is if the OP actually believes D* has 207 HD "Channels". I guess the bottom line is why do sat providers have to lie about (or grossly exaggerate) their channel counts. I was almost going to switch to DirecTV 3 years ago and then they started blatantly lying about content, haven't looked at them since other to see that they still lie.

Dish did it too claiming they were the first to offer 200 HD channels!
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:49 PM

Apparently, there is no actual definition of what an HD "Channel" is if the OP actually believes D* has 207 HD "Channels". I guess the bottom line is why do sat providers have to lie about (or grossly exaggerate) their channel counts. I was almost going to switch to DirecTV 3 years ago and then they started blatantly lying about content, haven't looked at them since other to see that they still lie.

Dish did it too claiming they were the first to offer 200 HD channels!


For the purposes of this list, we try to count everything we can. It is easier to include something, than to exclude something. How would you recommend the list be more accurate. It's a slippery slope when you start deciding what doesn't count.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:49 PM

Today's update will have to wait until tomorrow due to...unscheduled craziness.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:07 PM

For the purposes of this list, we try to count everything we can. It is easier to include something, than to exclude something. How would you recommend the list be more accurate. It's a slippery slope when you start deciding what doesn't count.


My main beef is with providers claiming movie, PPV's, RSN's, locals, etc. Take regional sports channels - a channel that is nothing more than a mirror of itself multiple times over (except for a local game). Counting east and west local feeds, C'mon? A PPV channel that is nothing more than a loop of one movie all day, really? I get why providers do it, but it turned me off to DirecTV a long time ago because they were (and are) the most blatant. Using D*'s logic of what they consider an HD "channel", I could claim that Time Warner in my division has 300 HD channels because of all the VOD offerings.

An HD "channel" should be just that - a dedicated network's HD feed. Everything else is just content. Then again, I'm sure they would just use deceptive ads with the word content in them like Comcast did!

At least, your list distinguishes the "channels" on the first post.
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