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Should Directv give you 2 boxes with no mirroring or rent fees?


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#1 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:37 PM

Should Directv give you 2 boxes with no mirroring or rent fees for box 2?

Most cable co's only give one and this something that can make them stand out.
I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

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#2 OFFLINE   bills976

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:57 PM

Interesting idea, but they make too much cash on the mirroring fee. I doubt we will see this go away anytime soon.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 04:06 AM

Without a poll I say yes!!

Mirroring/Lease fee is crap.

#4 OFFLINE   nevea2be

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 04:52 AM

What is the mirroring fee?

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 05:21 AM

Interesting idea, but they make too much cash on the mirroring fee. I doubt we will see this go away anytime soon.


They also probably made a lot of money on the HD Access fee.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 05:22 AM

What is the mirroring fee?


It's the same as the lease fee, but charged to owned boxes.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 05:25 AM

What is the mirroring fee?


It should appear on your bill as a "Leasing Fee". In short, this is the fee $5.99 per receiver) DirecTV charges you to have programming on an additional receiver.

My answer is YES, do away with mirror/leasing fee's on a second receiver. DirecTV could go as far as to have a # of free receivers in a given package.

Choice gets 1 free (no different than today)
Choice Xtra gets 2
Choice Ultimate gets 3
Premier gets 4

This type of system (in my opinion) would encourage customers to look at going with a better package or possibly invest in additional receivers.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 05:36 AM

Kind of irrelevent at this point. The fee is firmly entrenched as part of the cash flow equation, so if it goes away as a lease/mirror fee it will just pop up somewhere else.

Perhaps removing it could draw enough additional customers to offset the revenue loss, but I doubt it. "Free Lease/Mirroring Fee for life" just isn't a sexy come on like "Free HD for life".:lol:
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 06:45 AM

They'd just charge more money elsewhere. My suspicion is that DirecTV would like to go to the Uverse model with only 1 DVR and non-dvr slaves that access the recorded program. This would replace the mirror fee with multi-room viewing few. Technically this is a terrible idea and the limits caused by a single dvr and many - but another discussion.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 07:05 AM

I know a number of people with only one TV. Having a free mirroring fee on a second receiver would be of little interest to them. It might, however, convince them to accept a second receiver at no cost even which would be of no benefit to Directv.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 07:16 AM

They also probably made a lot of money on the HD Access fee.


This should be removed especially now. DirecTv is not the only company pushing HD

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 07:25 AM

Why are stupid irrelevant questions allowed? We can't change Directv policy so all this will do is take up forum space.

#13 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 07:38 AM

Interesting idea, but they make too much cash on the mirroring fee. I doubt we will see this go away anytime soon.


I not saying drop the fees all together just make box 1 and 2 have no rent or mirroring fee.
I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:13 AM

It should appear on your bill as a "Leasing Fee". In short, this is the fee $5.99 per receiver)


You must be the ONLY one being charged $5.99 - EVERYONE else is charged $5... :confused: :confused:

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:28 AM

Of course they should give us two receivers for free.

They should also only hire athletic twenty-something girls dressed in blue bikinis to do their installs.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:33 AM

I think allowing an extra receiver with a higher programming package might interest many people. D* has had this so long that their policy is unlikely to change.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:55 AM

They should also only hire athletic twenty-something girls dressed in blue bikinis to do their installs.


Yeah, but they'd always get stuck at their first install of the day. "Can you show me how to work the remote again?"
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#18 OFFLINE   Kansas Zephyr

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:27 AM

Why are stupid irrelevant questions allowed? We can't change Directv policy so all this will do is take up forum space.

Really?

Don't think that the potential to influence D* policy, by starting discussions here, exists?

Hmmm...HD free for 24-months for current subs. Only after I saw threads complaining about "dissing current customers" here, did it become available.

I also saw numerous threads about being forced to have SuperFan for HD, in past seasons. Now, it's included.

Did THIS forum force those changes? Of course we don't know...but I'm sure it didn't hurt.

BTW...Glad to see you're a DBSTalk Club Member that helps pay for forum space. :rolleyes:

...and yes, perhaps as an incentive, they could consider waiving one or two more lease/mirror fees as part of a premium/sports bundle, etc.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:28 AM

It should appear on your bill as a "Leasing Fee". In short, this is the fee $5.99 per receiver) DirecTV charges you to have programming on an additional receiver.

My answer is YES, do away with mirror/leasing fee's on a second receiver. DirecTV could go as far as to have a # of free receivers in a given package.

Choice gets 1 free (no different than today)
Choice Xtra gets 2
Choice Ultimate gets 3
Premier gets 4

This type of system (in my opinion) would encourage customers to look at going with a better package or possibly invest in additional receivers.


I never even thought of that, it's actually a really good idea and makes sense.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 10:02 AM

When I briefly left DTV in 2001, I told the CSR on the phone that I was leaving because of the mirror/lease fees. I also told her I would be willing to pay a little more upfront for a receiver if I could get rid of those fees. So I think it would be great if they got rid of it; especially when I'm paying for an additional 5 receivers. I have 2 additional rooms that could use TV's, but I haven't added them there because it's not worth the extra $10 a month.

I also think they would also add a fair number of cable subscribers if they took this approach. I’m sure for some people it’s hard to justify going to DTV when they realize they have to drop 5 for every room they are currently getting for free with their analog cable.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 10:14 AM

You must be the ONLY one being charged $5.99 - EVERYONE else is charged $5... :confused: :confused:


Was just going from memory without actually looking at the bill. I thought I had recalled the changed the mirroring fee a year or so back but am probably wrong.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 10:28 AM

I like to save money as much as the next person, but I'd say the $5 fee per box is fairly reasonable when compared to some other service providers.

I recently checked prices with my local cable company. No up front cost for up to two HD digital boxes, but the second box had a $17/month lease fee and they also charged a $10 HD access fee.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 06:14 PM

Perhaps removing it could draw enough additional customers to offset the revenue loss, but I doubt it. "Free Lease/Mirroring Fee for life" just isn't a sexy come on like "Free HD for life".:lol:


And DISH Network didn't introduce it first... ;)

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 06:22 PM

Time-Warner charges $7.95 per month per box in my area (Milwaukee/SE Wisconsin) for EVERY box (even the first one). But there is no hassle like sending the old one back or spending $20 S & H when a leased box dies. They send a technician out for free to solve any problem (no "Protection Plan") And, of course, no commitment requirement.

BUT with the reliability of present receiving equipment you quickly spend a lot more than with DirecTV with their elevated programming package charges, franchise fee (5% in my area) and other little surcharges-like a monthly fee for the remote control!!

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 06:35 PM

D* used to do that (no mirroring fees) for Primestar converts... I had it until my MPEG4 conversion..




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