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#21 ONLINE   harsh

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:37 PM

Sorry folks but the FCC is involved because of local channels. A consumer cannot obtain locals from multiple locations with 1 acct. This is called mirroring fraud. Legal source to follow.

Poppycock and maybe even a rousing hogwash.

The FCC has substantially no purview over how someone uses their receiving equipment. The FCC is all about signals that are sent.

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#22 OFFLINE   r028806

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:39 PM

From the Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act of 1999:
‘‘(f ) VIOLATION OF TERRITORIAL RESTRICTIONS ON
2 STATUTORY LICENSE FOR TELEVISION BROADCAST STA3
TIONS.—
4 ‘‘(1) INDIVIDUAL VIOLATIONS.—The willful or
5 repeated
6 secondary transmission to the public by a satellite
7 carrier of a primary transmission embodying a per8
formance or display of a work made by a television
9 broadcast station to a subscriber who does not reside
10 in that station’s local market, and is not subject to
11 statutory licensing under section 119 or a private li12
censing agreement, is actionable as an act of in13
fringement under section 501 and is fully subject to
14 the remedies provided by sections 502 through 506
15 and 509, except that—
16 ‘‘(A) no damages shall be awarded for such
17 act of infringement if the satellite carrier took
18 corrective action by promptly withdrawing serv19
ice from the ineligible subscriber; and
20 ‘‘(B) any statutory damages shall not ex21
ceed $5 for such subscriber for each month dur22
ing which the violation occurred.

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#23 OFFLINE   r028806

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:41 PM

The FCC has its hands all over satellite TV, the "Act" is 214 pages long.

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/shva/shvia.pdf

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:46 PM

That governs rules the satellite company must abide by, not the end user.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:50 PM

Sorry folks but the FCC is involved because of local channels. A consumer cannot obtain locals from multiple locations with 1 acct. This is called mirroring fraud. Legal source to follow.


As an FYI it's not possible to receive someone else's locals if you are not in their market. The locals are on spotbeams, so taking an authorized receiver from NYC to North Carolina will not get you NYC locals.

I'm not sure if that's what you meant with the above bold, but wanted to point out that moving a box does not pose "issues" with local channels.
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 11:47 PM

That governs rules the satellite company must abide by, not the end user.


Same as I'm READING quotes and documents.

To r028806: How it come into your head - an subscriber's violation ?! The papers say nothing about us. :)

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 01:00 AM

As an FYI it's not possible to receive someone else's locals if you are not in their market. The locals are on spotbeams, so taking an authorized receiver from NYC to North Carolina will not get you NYC locals.

I'm not sure if that's what you meant with the above bold, but wanted to point out that moving a box does not pose "issues" with local channels.


Actually, in the spirit of you're point, you're right, but in the application of an example you're wrong.

NYC and LA locals aren't a spotbeam, they're national for DNS. If you took a receiver authorized for a NYC location anywhere you can receive a signal, you'd be able to receive NYC locals.

Now, if you were to take a receiver from North Carolina to NYC, you wouldn't receive the North Carolina DMA's locals in NYC, due to being outside the spotbeam for the NC locals.

Just offering clarification on your specific example.

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 07:30 AM

The FCC has its hands all over satellite TV, the "Act" is 214 pages long.

In addition to applying to the carrier and not the consumer, the act that you refer to has twice been superseded. See SHVERA (2004) and STELA (2010).

For future reference, STELA sunsets in 2015.

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 12:01 PM

As an FYI it's not possible to receive someone else's locals if you are not in their market. The locals are on spotbeams, so taking an authorized receiver from NYC to North Carolina will not get you NYC locals.

Actually I believe it might because aren't NY locals also national feeds?

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 03:30 PM

Actually I believe it might because aren't NY locals also national feeds?


Bad example, but I think everyone got the jist...
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