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DirecTV™'s Fox agreements end at the end of November? (answer is "no")


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#26 OFFLINE   Newshawk

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 10:37 PM

Actually, the official trademark is DIRECTV.

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#27 OFFLINE   adkinsjm

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:48 PM

Yup .. DIRECTV is an independent company now. Sure, Liberty (and Malone) still own some stock, but last I checked, his voting power stopped @ 24%.

Still, I think DIRECTV & Fox have a much better relationship than DISH & Fox. Now, that being said .. a DISH CSR as the source of DIRECTV's contract situation .. well, let's just say, I'm not sure that's the best source. Sounds more like a tools to keep the customer than actual news.


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#28 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 12:07 AM

Malone's voting power is 3 percent now.

http://investor.dire...eleaseid=480109


well, there you go .. :)
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#29 OFFLINE   SWORDFISH

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:49 AM

Title thread...Not true




Well that settles that! Thx satracer!



That really didn't settle anything. All SR said is that the title of the thread is not true. The agreement could end November 1st or December 15th or whatever. We'll probably never know, unless the two sides start publicly bickering.




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#30 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 08:03 AM

That really didn't settle anything. All SR said is that the title of the thread is not true. The agreement could end November 1st or December 15th or whatever. We'll probably never know, unless the two sides start publicly bickering.


Yeah because a DISH CSR is more likely to lead in the right direction regarding a DIRECTV contract than SR is. :rolleyes:
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:59 PM

Let me be clearer. It's a non issue for a long time. The thread of the title is wrong.
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 03:47 PM

Let me be clearer. It's a non issue for a long time. The thread of the title is wrong.


I beg to differ. The title of the thread can not be wrong because it is a question. Only the answers to the question, yes or no can be wrong. :lol:

Thanks SR though for making it clear the answer is no.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 04:32 PM

You're right. There is a question mark. My apologies. D* will not be immune to programming disputes as well. I don't think any MSO can anymore with the way things are going in the industry.
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 06:06 PM

As long as I can get my FOX locals for Nascar and shows I'm happy.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:22 PM

Let me be clearer. It's a non issue for a long time. The thread of the title is wrong.


I have heard rumors that an agreement between the two has already been reached and even more unreliable rumors of collusion between the two companies. Just rumors for other sources, and should be taken with a grain of salt

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:26 PM

Which sources Dodger because if it is true then it shows D as the top fish in sports period they dont want to piss off any of the sports viewers bottom line. And I am one of those sports viewers.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:29 PM

Which sources Dodger because if it is true then it shows D as the top fish in sports period they dont want to piss off any of the sports viewers bottom line. And I am one of those sports viewers.


Just a person that works for them. They are reliable about many Direct issues, but the collusion part is just a rumor that they told me and cannot confirm it at all. Also, usually the business decisions are secret and employees know as much as us

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 08:38 PM

As conservative as DIRECTV has generally been regarding all legal issues (24 hour rule, distant locals, etc.) .. I think "collusion" is probably nothing more than someone making a misinformed guess and not based on anything factual.
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Posted 15 October 2010 - 08:41 PM

As conservative as DIRECTV has generally been regarding all legal issues (24 hour rule, distant locals, etc.) .. I think "collusion" is probably nothing more than someone making a misinformed guess and not based on anything factual.


I think that too is the case. It is probably someone drawing this conclusion simply because they came to an agreement so quickly (assuming they did agree)

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 07:27 AM

Doesn't DirecTV hold controlling interest in a few of the Fox sports channels?

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 08:31 AM

Whether the rumors are true or not, one of two things are certain to happen:

  • DirecTV, like DISH and Cablevision, will lose channels for a considerable length of time in a carriage dispute, after which subscribers will be paying higher prices for the same programming, or
  • DirecTV will not lose channels for a considerable length of time because a carriage agreement has been worked out, after which subscribers will be paying higher prices for the same programming.

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 08:40 AM

Whether the rumors are true or not, one of two things are certain to happen:

  • DirecTV, like DISH and Cablevision, will lose channels for a considerable length of time in a carriage dispute, after which subscribers will be paying higher prices for the same programming, or
  • DirecTV will not lose channels for a considerable length of time because a carriage agreement has been worked out, after which subscribers will be paying higher prices for the same programming.


Or a carriage agreement has been worked out and we will not be paying higher prices or they did not go up very much, because:

  • Direct has a better working relationship with Fox
  • Direct has more viewers and can get a better deal
  • Direct has more people watching RSNs because of the sports packs so Fox was able to give them a better deal
  • A combination of some of the above or all of the above


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Posted 16 October 2010 - 08:48 AM

Or a carriage agreement has been worked out and we will not be paying higher prices or they did not go up very much, because:

  • Direct has a better working relationship with Fox
  • Direct has more viewers and can get a better deal
  • Direct has more people watching RSNs because of the sports packs so Fox was able to give them a better deal
  • A combination of some of the above or all of the above


Combination, plus throw in:

- DirecTV has full time HD RSNs, which means the value is better for the price
- DirecTV's placing of channels and RSNs is more in line with what Fox wants.

Seems a large part of the Fox dispute with Dish is package levels.
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Posted 16 October 2010 - 08:59 AM

if im a betting man, i bet that directv and fox will reach n agreement before dish and cablevision does

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 09:01 AM

Let me be clearer. It's a non issue for a long time. The thread of the title is wrong.


if im a betting man, i bet that directv and fox will reach n agreement before dish and cablevision does


Well since SatRacer said DirecTV and Fox don't have to renew their agreement for a long time looks like you'd win.

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 09:17 AM

Yes, Virginia, there is nothing to see here ..
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Posted 16 October 2010 - 09:28 AM

if im a betting man, i bet that directv and fox will reach n agreement before dish and cablevision does


Agreed, do you have any idea how stubborn Cablevision can be? Biggest market in the country and they quibble about such little things. That's the Dolans for you. I'll never forgive them for dropping the Yes Network in '02.

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 09:38 AM

if im a betting man, i bet that directv and fox will reach n agreement before dish and cablevision does


It has already been done. I have heard from another source as well

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 02:20 PM

There was a full-page ad in the L.A. Times today reiterating that some Fox channels had already been removed from Dish, and that the local Fox affiliate was in danger of being dropped from Dish November 1st.


I've never understood the whole threat of dropping local affiliates. I thought cable and sat companies were mandated by the FCC to carry the locals and there was no money exchange taking place to carry the locals?

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 02:58 PM

I've never understood the whole threat of dropping local affiliates. I thought cable and sat companies were mandated by the FCC to carry the locals and there was no money exchange taking place to carry the locals?


Not really a threat, since it's actually happened.




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