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#1 OFFLINE   DFDureiko

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:20 AM

I've recently been reading threads about owned receivers, benefits seem to be, that you can turn the service on and off at will with no restrictions? (as could be done about 5 years ago)
ie an RV or vacation home? and with the protection plan if an issue should a occur with a receiver it will be replaced, and you will continue to own the receiver?
where would the best source be for a used HRxx/Hxx that is owned?
in fact years ago, I could turn the RV on and off every weekend if need be. Now you can only turn on/off twice a year I think?
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#2 ONLINE   Rich

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:49 AM

I've recently been reading threads about owned receivers, benefits seem to be, that you can turn the service on and off at will with no restrictions? (as could be done about 5 years ago)
ie an RV or vacation home? and with the protection plan if an issue should a occur with a receiver it will be replaced, and you will continue to own the receiver?
where would the best source be for a used HRxx/Hxx that is owned?
in fact years ago, I could turn the RV on and off every weekend if need be. Now you can only turn on/off twice a year I think?
Thanks
Dan


The best place to get owned HRs is on eBay or Craigslist. These are usually sold by Multiple Dwelling Users (MDUs) and are usually well kept.

You must check the RID number on each offering on eBay or CL. Sellers on eBay will sell you a leased HR and you won't be able to activate it. If the RID (Receiver ID #) is posted, you can call this number, 1-877-887-7994, and check to see if the HR is owned or leased. Don't believe the sellers. Many more leased HRs are put up for auction than owned HRs and you will not be able to activate an HR that is leased or has money owed on the account. That number above is for the Access Card Team (ACT). No waiting, it's a direct line.

You gotta have the PP if you are gonna have owned HRs. If you don't, and one goes south, the replacement you get will revert to leased. With the PP, it's owned for owned.

If you do get an owned receiver, you can drop a large HDD in it and don't have to screw around with external devices. You'll have less problems with a large HDD being used internally. My 20-700s run much cooler and better with 1.5-2TB HDDs in them. And you can deactivate them and reactivate them without extending your commitment.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 09:09 AM

The best place is the buy,sell, trade forum right here on dbstalk
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:04 AM

The best place to get owned HRs is on eBay or Craigslist. These are usually sold by Multiple Dwelling Users (MDUs) and are usually well kept.

You must check the RID number on each offering on eBay or CL. Sellers on eBay will sell you a leased HR and you won't be able to activate it. If the RID (Receiver ID #) is posted, you can call this number, 1-877-887-7994, and check to see if the HR is owned or leased. Don't believe the sellers. Many more leased HRs are put up for auction than owned HRs and you will not be able to activate an HR that is leased or has money owed on the account. That number above is for the Access Card Team (ACT). No waiting, it's a direct line.

You gotta have the PP if you are gonna have owned HRs. If you don't, and one goes south, the replacement you get will revert to leased. With the PP, it's owned for owned.

If you do get an owned receiver, you can drop a large HDD in it and don't have to screw around with external devices. You'll have less problems with a large HDD being used internally. My 20-700s run much cooler and better with 1.5-2TB HDDs in them. And you can deactivate them and reactivate them without extending your commitment.

Rich


Question about the protection plan, does this fee apply per receiver, or does one fee cover every receiver on the account?

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 11:02 AM

Question about the protection plan, does this fee apply per receiver, or does one fee cover every receiver on the account?


It covers the account.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:06 PM

Question about the protection plan, does this fee apply per receiver, or does one fee cover every receiver on the account?


Every receiver, every piece of equipment from the dish down to the HR including switches, splitters and cabling.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:09 PM

The best place is the buy,sell, trade forum right here on dbstalk
http://www.dbstalk.c...isplay.php?f=97


I should have added that I only buy 20-700s and I haven't seen one on Matt's offerings at the same price that I usually pay. I wouldn't recommend a 21 series HR to anyone.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:14 PM

The best place is the buy,sell, trade forum right here on dbstalk
http://www.dbstalk.c...isplay.php?f=97


Sorry, Paul, I didn't realize you were selling them too.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:14 PM

The best place to get owned HRs is on eBay or Craigslist. These are usually sold by Multiple Dwelling Users (MDUs) and are usually well kept.

You must check the RID number on each offering on eBay or CL. Sellers on eBay will sell you a leased HR and you won't be able to activate it. If the RID (Receiver ID #) is posted, you can call this number, 1-877-887-7994, and check to see if the HR is owned or leased. Don't believe the sellers. Many more leased HRs are put up for auction than owned HRs and you will not be able to activate an HR that is leased or has money owed on the account. That number above is for the Access Card Team (ACT). No waiting, it's a direct line.

You gotta have the PP if you are gonna have owned HRs. If you don't, and one goes south, the replacement you get will revert to leased. With the PP, it's owned for owned.

If you do get an owned receiver, you can drop a large HDD in it and don't have to screw around with external devices. You'll have less problems with a large HDD being used internally. My 20-700s run much cooler and better with 1.5-2TB HDDs in them. And you can deactivate them and reactivate them without extending your commitment.

Rich


What about on this site? I would consider buying here first. Some of my owned recievers were purchased on this site and some on EBAY and zero on Craigs list. Guess my area is just to lazy to put RID numbers on the site.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:16 PM

I should have added that I only buy 20-700s and I haven't seen one on Matt's offerings at the same price that I usually pay. I wouldn't recommend a 21 series HR to anyone.

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I perfer the HD20's myself but I like me 20-100 better then my 20-700. The 700 is loud. The R22's are not bad but I will not own a HR21. If I ever get one in a swap from D* for one of mine receivers that has died then it will be sold as fast as can be and a owned used HR20 purchased right away.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:27 PM

The R22's are not bad but I will not own a HR21. If I ever get one in a swap from D* for one of mine receivers that has died then it will be sold as fast as can be and a owned used HR20 purchased right away.


Well...you might be surprised to learn this, but an R22 is an HR21...
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:37 PM

Well...you might be surprised to learn this, but an R22 is an HR21...


Yep. Had both an HR21-200 and R22-200 open at the same time a couple days ago to swap drives. Sure enough, both said "HR21 MAIN" on the main board, in big while letters.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:42 PM

Well...you might be surprised to learn this, but an R22 is an HR21...


That might be the case but the R22's I have do not run anywhere near as slow as I have seen a HR21 run.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:09 PM

I wouldn't recommend a 21 series HR to anyone.


I would, as long as it is a 700. Mine are very reliable and speedy, no problems at all. I'd stay away from 22's and 23's.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 11:39 PM

It seems everyone has their own preferred models and to be avoided models. I've got an HR21-200, two HR22-100's, an R22-200, and an HR24-500. I've previously had HR20-700's. All have been perfectly acceptable to me, none I would consider to be avoided. YMMV.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:20 AM

What about on this site? I would consider buying here first. Some of my owned recievers were purchased on this site and some on EBAY and zero on Craigs list. Guess my area is just to lazy to put RID numbers on the site.


The folks that sell on Craigslist rarely put the ID number on their offerings. I think that's because they don't understand the importance of it. I've received some rather nasty replies to my emails asking for the RID number and after explaining why I wanted it, they sent it to me. Apparently, folks on CL are a bit suspicious.

I've never seen any HRs that I wanted to buy on this site. My preference is the 20-700 and I don't see them listed. I won't go any farther on the open forum, if you want to PM me, I will clarify my answer.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:24 AM

Yep. Had both an HR21-200 and R22-200 open at the same time a couple days ago to swap drives. Sure enough, both said "HR21 MAIN" on the main board, in big while letters.


The 21-200 should be a pretty good choice. I've only had two, but one has lasted for over a year without any problems. The first one started to burn up the first day I had it activated. Stuff happens. It was a brand new one. Odd.

The 21-200s and the 21-700s are the only 21s I would consider and that would be only if I couldn't find an owned 20-700.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:26 AM

That might be the case but the R22's I have do not run anywhere near as slow as I have seen a HR21 run.


Don't forget, the 22-100, the 22-200 and the 23-700 are all 21s, too. Never had a 22-200, they seem to be rare, can't comment on them, but I wouldn't have a 22-100 or the 23. Just my opinion, I really like the 20-700s.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:31 AM

I would, as long as it is a 700. Mine are very reliable and speedy, no problems at all. I'd stay away from 22's and 23's.


My second favorite HR. (Too early to comment on the 24s, had three, one bad 24-500, have one 24-500 and one 24-200.) But considerably slower than the 20-700s. Still a fine HR if you have nothing to compare it too. Very dependable. I sent all but one of my 21-700s back to D* after I bought a bunch of 20-700s.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:38 AM

It seems everyone has their own preferred models and to be avoided models. I've got an HR21-200, two HR22-100's, an R22-200, and an HR24-500. I've previously had HR20-700's. All have been perfectly acceptable to me, none I would consider to be avoided. YMMV.


It's not subjective on my part. I've had so many of them I've had the opportunity to compare them and I think the 20-700 is, by far, the best of the HRs. The 21-700 would be next and then the 21-200. The rest, I wouldn't buy. I've never ordered or bought an HR with the idea that it was gonna fail except for a 22-100 that I bought new, and it failed after a couple weeks. Surprised me, because it worked superbly for a week or so and then gradually became unusable. I expected it to fail when I leased it, but it worked so well for a week that I was very happy with it and then... Sometimes it's hard to be right. Very disappointing.

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