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#21 OFFLINE   greatone

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 10:51 PM

i do not see it can u show me a picture

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#22 OFFLINE   jimmyv2000

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 06:51 AM

KCAL disappared too BUMMER

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 07:19 AM

That's where you are wrong. As stated on other threads, if this were the case, KVH TracVision, who work hand in hand with D*, would not show Directv's signal available outside CONUS.

It might in someway violate Directv's fine print, but it in no way is illegal for a US Resident to take his unit outside of the CONUS and use it - and as thus, is not illegal - nor has it been challenged in the courts by either Country.


You are absolutely correct. Despite what people continue to post, it is NOT illegal under U.S. law for people to receive the DirecTV signal outside the U.S. borders. It can be illegal under LOCAL law for people to do this - for example it's illegal in Canada under Canadian law, although I have yet to hear of the mounties arresting a U.S. RV owner for using his system while in Canada. Using a DirecTV receiver outside the U.S. is however against the Terms of Service that apply to your account. DirecTV has to incorporate this clause into the terms of service because DirecTV's license, and the agreements they have with copyright holders, only give DirecTv the right to deliver the service to subscribers within the USA. In theory, if DirecTV finds out you are using the system outside the USA, they could cancel your service.
A similar situation applies to people who receive Canadian satellite signals in the USA. In this case it is NOT illegal under US law to receive the signals, but just as in the DirecTV case, it's a breach of the terms of service of the Canadian sat providers.
This forum chooses not to allow discussion of issues relating to the receiving of DirecTV outside the USA because it is a breach of the Terms of Service and the forum wants to maintain good relations with DirecTV, it has NOTHING to do with it being legal.
The receiving of DirecTV by RVs outside the USA is not allowed, it is just overlooked, because it would be somewhat unreasonable (and very difficult) to remove service from those people who are using it.

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 10:48 AM

Actually, it is illegal to receive DirecTV broadcasts outside of the 50 states-but it's a violation of copyright law. The networks that DirecTV carries, as well as the content on DirecTV Cinema and the 101 Network, are licensed for viewing only within the United States. I'm sure there are other entities that hold the licenses to present the programs in Mexico and Canada, and by "importing" the DirecTV signal you are violating their rights. That's also the basis for the injunction and the impending lawsuit against FilmOn (to drag this thread back onto topic...)

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 10:57 AM

That's where you are wrong. As stated on other threads, if this were the case, KVH TracVision, who work hand in hand with D*, would not show Directv's signal available outside CONUS.

It might in someway violate Directv's fine print, but it in no way is illegal for a US Resident to take his unit outside of the CONUS and use it - and as thus, is not illegal - nor has it been challenged in the courts by either Country.


KVH's original thrust was in the maritime market.
The footprint maps are primarily for determining marine use antennae size for offshore applications. This is "Open Water" areas are thus different rules.

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 11:14 AM

KCAL disappared too BUMMER


Yeah, it sucks...I was using it for Lakers road games.

They added more adult channels. :lol:
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Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:47 PM

Just a further update they have added more channels more pron and ITV 1234
bbc 1 and bbc2 all in HD enjoy channel 5 and channel 4 also:lol:

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 05:26 PM

I wonder how they are getting their channels. Do they have an OTA reception site in LA or are they taking feeds off of a cable system? The international channels could be taken from a cable/satellite system in England.

They are certainly doing business in the US, which would bring them under US laws for distribution. If they were entirely off-shore their primary problem would be with the source of their signals. It is not legal for me to take my satellite/cable subscription and stream it to other people. I don't own the copyright and have not paid the carriage fees to do that.

I see they have responded to the legal challenge by removing some channels (now marked as coming soon) so there is some respect for US law ... but I'd be concerned about how long this will last.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:46 AM

I wonder how they are getting their channels. Do they have an OTA reception site in LA or are they taking feeds off of a cable system? The international channels could be taken from a cable/satellite system in England.


I may be wrong on this but I thought I recall reading once that supposedly they were getting the LA channels from FTA satellite.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:00 PM

I checked the site out today. It's gone subscription. $9.99 for US TV. Atleast pron channels are EXTRA and NOT included!

They also offer BBC One and Two.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:06 PM

I checked the site out today. It's gone subscription. $9.99 for US TV. Atleast pron channels are EXTRA and NOT included!

They also offer BBC One and Two.


Oh well, I enjoyed it while it lasted. :mad:
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:31 PM

the free player I downloaded a few weeks ago still works, though not all the channels are there. BBC News and SKy News are there (and oddly enough the pr0n channels were there yesterday, but not today) but I've never seen BBC1, etc listed.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 08:12 PM

I checked the site out today. It's gone subscription. $9.99 for US TV. Atleast pron channels are EXTRA and NOT included!

They also offer BBC One and Two.


I was able to access the site (and all the channels) through my Iphone just a few minutes ago (no log-in required)

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 01:38 AM

This is what I see:

Scheduled maintenance. We will be back soon!
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Posted 01 December 2010 - 06:10 AM

This is what I see:

Scheduled maintenance. We will be back soon!
FilmOn.com


This morning, I get nothing but a blank screen when I try and access the site via my Iphone.

I also happened across this article: http://www.hollywood...ing-order-48374

n a legal win for the big broadcast networks, a federal judge has issued a temporary restraining order against FilmOn.com, which has been streaming the signals of TV stations over the Internet without permission of stations, networks or producers, the LA Times reported


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Posted 01 December 2010 - 06:55 AM

They may have indeed had a problem ealier; HOWEVER, I'm using their service on FilmOn.com with my iPhone 4 right this very second.

It seems, at least for now, they have resolved whatever the issue was (maintenance or otherwise).

A good sign is that they keep adding more and more content / channels to their mix.
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Posted 01 December 2010 - 07:12 AM

If using the player on a PC, you will see 5 red icons above the channel list. The arrow allows you to change the filter of channels to "Adult", "HDi" or "Additional HDi". I read that the owner of IVI still feels he is on safe ground because he is paying a copyright fee. FilmON was keeping all of the revenues to itself.

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 01:07 PM

I did get the player downloaded later, but the video is too herky-jerkey for me on my web connection, so I won't be able to use it.
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Posted 01 December 2010 - 01:56 PM

I did get the player downloaded later, but the video is too herky-jerkey for me on my web connection, so I won't be able to use it.


What's your subscribed ISP package speed(s). All stations work fine without any choppyness issues here on my 50/10 mbps connection and work equally as well on my iPhone 4 on both wifi and 3g connection methods (which is at a much lesser speed connection (3/1 mbps or less given the area).




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