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Monsoon Vulkano--An Alternative to Sling + More?


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#1 OFFLINE   bnborg

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 02:12 PM

It seems to me that this device would offer the MRV features of Sling, with additional features. http://www.myvulkano.com/products.html

It can download from the internet, display to your TV, capture HD, record, has an EPG, and supports an eSata EHD. It almost seems too good to be true.

Has anyone tried one with a Dish rcvr? I see there has been some discussion in DirecTV threads. :confused:
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 03:37 PM

Apparently it uses it's own external hard drive. I am not sure anyone would want this if they already have a Dish DVR receiver. It is roughly the same price as a Dish DVR.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:03 PM

I'm sure it will be a fine product. Right now I'd read this article in the New York Times A Device Sold Before Its Time and the mixed reviews at Amazon. Nonetheless, in the long run it should put some pressure on Sling.

Keep in mind that my Slingbox PRO-HD works perfectly and I haven't seen others here with any significant criticisms. I cannot comment on the ViP922 or the new Adaptor which integrate Dish services and DVR's with the Sling function.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:04 PM

Apparently it uses it's own external hard drive. I am not sure anyone would want this if they already have a Dish DVR receiver. It is roughly the same price as a Dish DVR.


It's less than half as much as a ViP722k. There is a Black Friday $50 discount, making the basic, 8GB Platinum about $115 incl. shipping.

I went ahead and ordered it.

Edited by bnborg, 22 November 2010 - 04:17 PM.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:06 PM

It seems to me that this device would offer the MRV features of Sling, with additional features.

It can download from the internet, display to your TV, capture HD, record, has an EPG, and supports an eSata EHD. It almost seems too good to be true.

I think you're reading more into it than is really there. If you look at the specifications, it is capable of encoding only H.264(MP) video (SD). It may capture HD programming, but it will capture in downconverted SD.

I would liken this device to DIRECTV's upcoming NOMAD product.

The Vulkano also complies with HCDP which adds another dimension of confusion about what you'll be allowed to record.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:17 PM

It's less than half as much as a ViP722k.

How do figure? You must not have priced DVR capable eSATA drives.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:24 PM

How do figure? You must not have priced DVR capable eSATA drives.


I happen to have just ordered an eSata docking station for $22. Enclosures are similarly priced. Drives are drives, as long as they are SATA. You can get 1TB drives for about $55 from various sources.

Note, it also has an IR Blaster and can learn remote codes. It knows Dish codes for address 1 (IR).

I will see how it goes.
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:49 PM

I happen to have just ordered an eSata docking station for $22. Enclosures are similarly priced. Drives are drives, as long as they are SATA. You can get 1TB drives for about $55 from various sources.

I will see how it goes.


Don't expect to be able to record to an external hard drive connected to a Platinum. You will be able to record to a computer with the PC player though.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 07:22 PM

Thanks, Brandon.

Yeah, I see on the Monsoon Forums that users have had problems with this. I didn't assume it would be easy. I realize I might have to format the EHD with ext2 or ext3 if the Vulkano doesn't do it. ESata drives can be funny about power. Some of them don't work correctly unless the 3volt pins have power, in addition to the 5v and 12v. The external enclosure needs to provide all three.

First thing I do when I get it is back up the 8GB SD that comes with it. I can copy the MBR and change parameters as necessary.
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 07:46 PM

Thanks, Brandon.

Yeah, I see on the Monsoon Forum that users have had problems with this. I didn't assume it would be easy. I realize I might have to format the EHD with ext2 or ext3 if the Vulkano doesn't do it. ESata drives can be funny about power. Some of them don't work correctly unless the 3volt pins have power, in addition to the 5v and 12v. The external enclosure needs to provide all three.

First thing I do when I get it is back up the 8GB SD that comes with it. I can copy the MBR and change parameters as necessary.


Did you order the Platinum or the Deluxe? The Platinum doesn't come with any SD card or EHD, nor the support (firmware) to utilize one.
The Deluxe's can use an EXT3 formatted drive and will automatically reformat one if needed.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 08:05 PM

I ordered Platinum, and I see on the Monsoon web site there is no storage. I think I was confused by the offer at NewEgg which was for one with an 8GB SD card.

There seem to have been several variations on the Vulcano besides the three currently shown, Platinum (0GB), Deluxe (16GB SD) and Deluxe Pro (1TB eSata). I have also seen a 500GB eSata model mentioned.
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Posted 23 November 2010 - 09:00 AM

I happen to have just ordered an eSata docking station for $22. Enclosures are similarly priced. Drives are drives, as long as they are SATA. You can get 1TB drives for about $55 from various sources.

So the platinum is $149 and the external hard drive is $100. $249 doesn't seem like "less than half" of $199 (or even $349 for an outright purchase).

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 09:23 AM

It seems to me that this device would offer the MRV features of Sling, with additional features. http://www.myvulkano.com/products.html

It can download from the internet, display to your TV, capture HD, record, has an EPG, and supports an eSata EHD. It almost seems too good to be true.

Has anyone tried one with a Dish rcvr? I see there has been some discussion in DirecTV threads. :confused:

I am using the older Hava Platinum model with a VIP622 for about two years now.

As a place shifting box it works great and you do not need to login to use it. Just supply the password of the local box once during set up of the remote client.

My model does not support external hard drive so I can not comment on recording.

Bottom line I have been happy with mine,there support not so much.

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 01:17 PM

So the platinum is $149 and the external hard drive is $100. $249 doesn't seem like "less than half" of $199 (or even $349 for an outright purchase).


After the Black Friday discount, the Platinum was $113.02 including shipping. You can get 1TB drives for about $55 these days. An eSata enclosure or docking station will be about $20.
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