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Need to replace Denon what do I get?


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#1 OFFLINE   SteveHas

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 03:48 PM

I need a 7.1 receiver to replace my lovely Denon which is having issues, and is not HDMI compatible

I am looking for at a Sony STR-DN2010 and a Pioneer VSX-1120

I am leaning towards the Sony as I need to have HDMI pass through.
I will not, and can not turn my receiver on every time I want to watch TV, or play the PS3, thus the hdmi pass through.
However I can not find ANY reviews of this particular Sony.
I've had other Sony units and found them to be a great value for the money spent as far as features and performance go

I can get either unit at my price point which is in the high $400.00
I also want
Network ability for home media
latest surround sound decoders

Any suggestions, or input?

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#2 OFFLINE   lugnutathome

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 07:07 PM

http://usa.yamaha.co...667/?mode=model

Another contender here:) I'm a Yamaha bigot myself. Sony makes good consumer grade equipment as does Yamaha though Yamaha to my ear has always had a warmer rounder sound than Sony but I stopped comparing them years ago and buy at the top of the range so my opinions are not based in everyone's reality.

The Pioneer looks awful attractive to me with the 6 HDMI inputs but for me the THX Select2 soundfields would be the deal maker but again that is just me. Ultimately any of them will rumble a sub and shriek out lots of sound through your speakers.

THX Select2 engages the 2 rear surrounds on any 5.1/2.1 processed soundfield. The same can be accomplished by selecting a PL2X extension or DD-EX/DTS-ES matrix extension to 5.1 sound materials. But at least on my RX-V3800 they remain in "matrix" mode even on 7.1 input source until I deselect the extension.

THX does it transparently so I don't have to switch things on and off. Plus it adds some theater like dynamics to the sound without adding rasp or phony reverberations. My RX-Z11 and the RX-V2600 both have the Select2 (the Z box also has Ultra for LARGER rooms (which I need in that area)). Ultimately I prefer the sound manipulations the THX processing adds but this is my tastes.

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#3 OFFLINE   SteveHas

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 07:15 PM

http://usa.yamaha.co...667/?mode=model

Another contender here:) I'm a Yamaha bigot myself. Sony makes good consumer grade equipment as does Yamaha though Yamaha to my ear has always had a warmer rounder sound than Sony but I stopped comparing them years ago and buy at the top of the range so my opinions are not based in everyone's reality.

The Pioneer looks awful attractive to me with the 6 HDMI inputs but for me the THX Select2 soundfields would be the deal maker but again that is just me. Ultimately any of them will rumble a sub and shriek out lots of sound through your speakers.

THX Select2 engages the 2 rear surrounds on any 5.1/2.1 processed soundfield. The same can be accomplished by selecting a PL2X extension or DD-EX/DTS-ES matrix extension to 5.1 sound materials. But at least on my RX-V3800 they remain in "matrix" mode even on 7.1 input source until I deselect the extension.

THX does it transparently so I don't have to switch things on and off. Plus it adds some theater like dynamics to the sound without adding rasp or phony reverberations. My RX-Z11 and the RX-V2600 both have the Select2 (the Z box also has Ultra for LARGER rooms (which I need in that area)). Ultimately I prefer the sound manipulations the THX processing adds but this is my tastes.

YMMV

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I've read all this else where here

this unit does not match my criteria
not a networked unit
and I am not a Yamaha fan

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 07:22 PM

I need a 7.1 receiver to replace my lovely Denon which is having issues, and is not HDMI compatible

I am looking for at a Sony STR-DN2010 and a Pioneer VSX-1120

I am leaning towards the Sony as I need to have HDMI pass through.
I will not, and can not turn my receiver on every time I want to watch TV, or play the PS3, thus the hdmi pass through.
However I can not find ANY reviews of this particular Sony.
I've had other Sony units and found them to be a great value for the money spent as far as features and performance go

I can get either unit at my price point which is in the high $400.00
I also want
Network ability for home media
latest surround sound decoders

Any suggestions, or input?


Go to the Crutchfield website. You'll find everything you'll need to know about the Sony STR-DN2010 including photos. If your budget allows it step up to Sony's ES receivers.

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 07:32 PM

I've had two Sony Receivers and am currently on my third Pioneer receiver (1020). I'd take Pioneer over Sony any time, especially the 1120 that's a great receiver.

The 1120 does have HDMI passthrough, BTW.

The 1120 was $425 at Amazon last month and is currently $430 at newegg, but they're out of stock and probably won't get any in before that deal goes away.

I'm sure another deal will pop up though.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 06:02 AM

I've had two Sony Receivers and am currently on my third Pioneer receiver (1020). I'd take Pioneer over Sony any time, especially the 1120 that's a great receiver.

The 1120 does have HDMI passthrough, BTW.

The 1120 was $425 at Amazon last month and is currently $430 at newegg, but they're out of stock and probably won't get any in before that deal goes away.

I'm sure another deal will pop up though.


the 1120 DOES have passthrough?!
I couldn't find that feature listed any where on any web site are you sure?
If it does that the unit for me

#7 OFFLINE   SteveHas

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 08:26 AM

Go to the Crutchfield website. You'll find everything you'll need to know about the Sony STR-DN2010 including photos. If your budget allows it step up to Sony's ES receivers.



thanks mm
I had checked Crutchfield previously, but there were no reviews
I have all the tech specs I need on the Sony
I just need someone who has it

I have only found one review from 1 buyer at Amazon
and one other that reads suspiciously like a Sony employee who conunters the 1st reviewer

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 08:36 AM

thanks mm
I had checked Crutchfield previously, but there were no reviews
I have all the tech specs I need on the Sony
I just need someone who has it

I have only found one review from 1 buyer at Amazon
and one other that reads suspiciously like a Sony employee who conunters the 1st reviewer


There is one review by a owner of the Sony STR-DN2010 Receiver on the Receiver Review website.

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#9 OFFLINE   SteveHas

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 08:55 AM

There is one review by a owner of the Sony STR-DN2010 Receiver on the Receiver Review website.



cool, but what web site?
there are no reviews for this unit on Crutchfield

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 09:01 AM

cool, but what web site?
there are no reviews for this unit on Crutchfield


receiver-reviews.send.us/sony.....when the menu comes up you will see it. Just click on.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 09:03 AM

Onkyo

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 09:04 AM

receiver-reviews.send.us/sony.....when the menu comes up you will see it. Just click on.



thats the same review as appears on Amazon
it also shows up on Sony's web site as well

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 09:05 AM

Onkyo



what Onkyo?
which model
is it networked
HDMI pass through?
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 09:11 AM

thats the same review as appears on Amazon
it also shows up on Sony's web site as well


Didn't know that.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 09:23 AM

I've had two Sony Receivers and am currently on my third Pioneer receiver (1020). I'd take Pioneer over Sony any time, especially the 1120 that's a great receiver.

The 1120 does have HDMI passthrough, BTW.

The 1120 was $425 at Amazon last month and is currently $430 at newegg, but they're out of stock and probably won't get any in before that deal goes away.

I'm sure another deal will pop up though.


it has 3d pass through which is not the same as HDMI pass through

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 09:25 AM

Didn't know that.


I think I'm going to have to pull the trigger on the Sony as it the only unit I've found that;
it has all the features I want
and
meets my price target
I would prefer the Pioneer only based on available reviews, but it doesn't have the much needed HDMI pass through


I will wait for further, (and much valued) input from this forum however

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:28 AM

it has 3d pass through which is not the same as HDMI pass through


Are you sure? I went to the 1120 thread on avs and searched for "passthrough" and there were several posts that come up with people stating that it had it.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:09 PM

I actually don't know of any decent receivers that have the HDMI pass through feature you are looking for...actually passing the HDMI signal when unit is off, is not something very many support...you might want to rethink that.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:13 PM

The Yamaha in my sig does pass through when set to stand by when powered off. It's not networked, though, or does HDMI 1.4 (3D).
If you stop responding to them or put them on ignore, then eventually they'll go away.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:19 PM

I think I'm going to have to pull the trigger on the Sony as it the only unit I've found that;
it has all the features I want
and
meets my price target
I would prefer the Pioneer only based on available reviews, but it doesn't have the much needed HDMI pass through


I will wait for further, (and much valued) input from this forum however


The newer Denons, if you turn on HDMI CEC, have a setting to specify which HDMI input is the Standby Source. It is supposed to pass the specified input to the TV when the receiver is in standby.

I'd hate to have to get rid of my Denon; I don't know if you feel the same way, but it seems that you may not have to (switch brands anyway)

Look here for more info.

Q. HDMI Control? I can watch TV when the Denon is off? Wow, really??

Edited by David Ortiz, 07 December 2010 - 12:22 PM.
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