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Does HR24 support HDMI CEC?


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#1 OFFLINE   SteveHas

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 11:25 AM

So I have a beautiful new Pioneer VSX-1120.
One of its very cool new features is called HDMI pass through.
This feature allows the unit to pass through audio and video signals to say a TV even when the avr unit is in stand by mode.
So now we can watch TV without having to turn on the whole av system

Well, I couldn't seem to get this feature to work no matter what I did.
So I called Pioneer Tech support.
Seems that my equally beautiful HR24 does not support CEC, which is needed to take advantage of this great new feature, (at least according to Pioneer).
Anyone know if CEC is supported by the HR24, and if not, will it be on the horizon?

Please note:
I don't care about 3D programing, my concern here is to be able to take advantage of HDMI pass through.
All of my cables are 1.3 or higher.

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#2 OFFLINE   CCarncross

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 11:31 AM

Check your settings in your Pioneer again....even my HR20 will work with my AV Receiver turned off and still pass-thru to my tv....after we all went round and round on this topic last week, I actually went home and turned on the HDMI control on my Denon, and it worked great...but I had to have the settings correct for it to work....

#3 OFFLINE   SteveHas

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 11:50 AM

Check your settings in your Pioneer again....even my HR20 will work with my AV Receiver turned off and still pass-thru to my tv....after we all went round and round on this topic last week, I actually went home and turned on the HDMI control on my Denon, and it worked great...but I had to have the settings correct for it to work....


I hear ya, and believe ya, but
checked many times
I have all the setting checked as per owner's manual
even Pioneer says it won't work if source isn't CEC compliant
or at least they don't guarantee it will work

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#4 OFFLINE   wilbur_the_goose

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 11:51 AM

Steve,
I have an HR24-500 hooked up to my Marantz SR7005. HDMI pass-thru works perfectly.

#5 OFFLINE   SteveHas

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 12:03 PM

Steve,
I have an HR24-500 hooked up to my Marantz SR7005. HDMI pass-thru works perfectly.



so back to Pioneer I go

thx Wilbur

having said this, does anyone know for a fact if any D* dvr supports CEC?

Edited by SteveHas, 13 December 2010 - 12:11 PM.

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  • Dish
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  • Panasonic 55" TC-P55GT50 plasma HDMI/ DECA, CAT6, OTA
  • Nintendo Wii,
  • Panasonic DMP-BDT220 Blu-Ray, CAT6
  • Pioneer VSX-1120 7.1 CAT6,
  • Cambridge Sound Works Ensemble 1 - front, S300 - surround back, Center Stage - center, Polk RM7 - surround side, and Bass Cube 8
    Master Bedroom
  • DirecTV HR24-500 
  • Vizio 37" SV370XVT LCD HDMI/DECA, CAT6 - can I just take a moment to say how awesome this TV is
  • Sony BDP-BX3B Blu-Ray, CAT6
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  • Samsung 52" LNT5271 FX LCD HDMI/DECA, CAT 6, OTA
  • Sony PS3,
  • Denon AVR 2108, KEF C40
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  • Vizio 42" E3D420 VX LCD HDMI/DECA, CAT 6, OTA
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  • 2 - D-Link DGS-1008G Gigabit switches
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#6 OFFLINE   sigma1914

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 12:10 PM

so back to Pioneer I go

thx Wilbur


Try Yamaha...My semi-low end (in my sig) does pass through.
If you stop responding to them or put them on ignore, then eventually they'll go away.

#7 OFFLINE   SteveHas

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 12:14 PM

Try Yamaha...My semi-low end (in my sig) does pass through.



just bought this thing!
I'm going back to Pioneer CS, I'm not replacing unit

UPDATE
I just spoke with Pioneer, the technician I spoke with said that the latest DirecTV unit they have tested the VSX-1120 on was "at least three years old"
he said they have tested the 1120 on as many cec compatible dvrs, and blu ray players as they knew of.
He said if they get enough demand they will possibly update the firm ware to make the unit work with any dvr that is in fact CEC
he passed along my comments, and the model number to the engineering department for their review.
He said I was the first person to call about a CEC control problem with a D* dvr.
He went to say that they had worked directly with D* in the past on some issues

well let see what happens
he seemed knowledgeable, and sincere in our conversation
I was just surprised that they had no knowledge of the HR24

Edited by SteveHas, 13 December 2010 - 02:33 PM.

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  • Dish
  • Slimline-3 SWiM 16, 
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  • DirecTV HR44-700  
  • Panasonic 55" TC-P55GT50 plasma HDMI/ DECA, CAT6, OTA
  • Nintendo Wii,
  • Panasonic DMP-BDT220 Blu-Ray, CAT6
  • Pioneer VSX-1120 7.1 CAT6,
  • Cambridge Sound Works Ensemble 1 - front, S300 - surround back, Center Stage - center, Polk RM7 - surround side, and Bass Cube 8
    Master Bedroom
  • DirecTV HR24-500 
  • Vizio 37" SV370XVT LCD HDMI/DECA, CAT6 - can I just take a moment to say how awesome this TV is
  • Sony BDP-BX3B Blu-Ray, CAT6
    Basement
  • Samsung 52" LNT5271 FX LCD HDMI/DECA, CAT 6, OTA
  • Sony PS3,
  • Denon AVR 2108, KEF C40
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#8 OFFLINE   dakid21

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 06:01 PM

Did you ever get it to work? I just bought a 1021 and can't seem to get standby pass thru to work either with the hr24.

#9 OFFLINE   Groundhog45

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 11:24 PM

I don't think any of the HR's support CEC.

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#10 OFFLINE   hilmar2k

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 06:27 AM

I didn't think CEC had anything to do with pass through. I thought CEC was the ability to send remote commands through HDMI.

Now I have to go look that up.....

EDIT: Well, my memory hasn't totally failed yet.... :lol: http://www.pcworld.c...v_hdmi_cec.html

#11 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 06:28 AM

I didn't think CEC had naything to do with pass through. I thouhgt CEC was the ability to send remote commands through HDMI.

Now I have to go look that up.....

You are right...save the lookup time.
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#12 OFFLINE   texasbrit

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 06:29 AM

I didn't think CEC had naything to do with pass through. I thouhgt CEC was the ability to send remote commands through HDMI.

Now I have to go look that up.....

Correct, it has nothing to do with passthru.

#13 OFFLINE   hilmar2k

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 06:30 AM

You are right...save the lookup time.


Too late.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 06:31 AM

Too late.

!rolling

OK - but you're still right... :D:lol:
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#15 OFFLINE   hilmar2k

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 06:32 AM

!rolling

OK - but you're still right... :D:lol:


Hey, after being married for 11 years, I'll take all of the "you're right"s I can get. :lol:




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