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1080p Not Free and only on Certain Receivers--why bother?


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#1 OFFLINE   bookwalk

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 05:44 PM

I see via Direct Cinema Plus that ANY 1080p program will cost at least $4.00.

Then I found out that even though my HR 20 shows the 1080p as a Resolution option, according to a CSR, no DVR receiver except the HR 24 actually outputs 1080p!

They say that even if I downloaded free 1080p On Demand movies, I would not be watching them in true 1080p because I have a HR 20.

I thought it was software dependent and if I had chosen the 1080p option, then I am watching 1080p!

So, doesn't look like Direct TV can help me with 1080p even though my Vizio is 1080p capable.

So will NOT be ordering ANY 1080p movies -- but will just invest in a Blue Ray and rent 1080p movies -- maybe via Netflix. May as well cancel premiums also.

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#2 OFFLINE   hilmar2k

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 05:48 PM

All of the HR2x's can output in 1080p. To indicate 1080p, all but the HR24 light both the 720p light and the 1080i light (the HR24 has a dedicated 1080p light).

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 05:50 PM

Try enabling the 1080p checkbox in the HD DVR's HDTV Setup Menu. But realize that your Vizio might only be 1080p@60fps compatible instead of DirecTV's 1080p@24fps. Not very many HDTVs support 1080p@24fps yet.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 05:52 PM

MY HR20 does indeed output 1080P to our Samsung LN55C630 tv. As soon as we rented Knight and Day it popped up a message on the tv stating it was receiving an input of 1080P. Litzdog is right, your tv needs to be able to accept 1080p 24. My current tv and our Mitsubishi 52" DLP set both could accept it and it worked fine.
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#5 OFFLINE   hilmar2k

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 05:52 PM

Try enabling the 1080p checkbox in the HD DVR's HDTV Setup Menu. But realize that your Vizio might only be 1080p@60fps compatible instead of DirecTV's 1080p@24fps. Not very many HDTVs support 1080p@24fps yet.


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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:05 PM

Then I found out that even though my HR 20 shows the 1080p as a Resolution option, according to a CSR, no DVR receiver except the HR 24 actually outputs 1080p!


Yeah, that's total crap. Like others said, your TV has to support 1080p/24fps
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:37 PM

And not all 1080P movies cost extra either. For instance if you have the HD Extra pack you can get some 1080P movies from MGM VOD

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:56 PM

And not all 1080P movies cost extra either. For instance if you have the HD Extra pack you can get some 1080P movies from MGM VOD


you DON'T NEED HD EXTRA for MGM and SONY VOD.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:43 PM

you DON'T NEED HD EXTRA for MGM and SONY VOD.


Since when?

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:43 PM

That's not true anymore.


Well, it does some that the "cheaper" HDTVs still don't support 1080p@24fps.
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#11 OFFLINE   betterdan

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 09:00 PM

I think most tvs support 24fps now

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 09:27 PM

Well, it does some that the "cheaper" HDTVs still don't support 1080p@24fps.


I think most tvs support 24fps now


Yeah, virtually all of the new TV's, any most of the TV's from the past couple of years do. Much harder to find one that doesn't than one that does.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 09:37 PM

Nearly all TVs made since 2008 models support 1080/24p input signals.

A great many of those same TVs (generally the cheaper models) still have 60 Hz panels or otherwise lack the circuitry and software to display 1080/24p content at 24-frames-per-second, so they have to convert the 1080/24p to 1080/60p, introducing 3:2 judder as most earlier TVs also did.

But there are other advantages of 1080/24p (the most common ones being a higher bitrate, allowing better color depth and reduced macroblocking during motion).

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:50 PM

Since when?


Well......to add a VOD Channel you need to subscribe to it, and when you subscribe to a channel it shows when you browse by channel....

But......even if you subscribe to HD Extra pack, there is no VOD channel you can add for MGM and Sony.

(Again) But......when you peruse the PPV movies you see content on an MGM channel and a Sony Channel (whether you've got HD Extra Pack or not). Usually this content is in HD, occasionally it's in 1080P.

As far as I know, it's the only 1080P programming available free of charge.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 03:13 AM

Also, i haven't seen anything that says 1080p costs more than the regular hd version..

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 09:23 AM

you DON'T NEED HD EXTRA for MGM and SONY VOD.


Since when?


Long time. Since I hard ever use VOD I never noticed up until a while ago. I've never checked SONY but have had MGM for as far back as I can remember. I was surprised and posted it here ages ago and someone said it's always been that way.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 09:29 AM

Long time. Since I hard ever use VOD I never noticed up until a while ago. I've never checked SONY but have had MGM for as far back as I can remember. I was surprised and posted it here ages ago and someone said it's always been that way.


Thanks for the info, I have the HD extra, but wasn't aware of MGM's HD VOD offerings.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 10:28 AM

My 58" Panasonic Viera Plasma that was made in the Summer of 2007 and cost darned near $4000 at the time most definitely DOES NOT support DirecTV's flavor of 1080p @ 24FPS. My Samsung Blu-Ray player DOES output 1080p @ 60FPS, and produces the usual beautiful picture on my TV. Even my lowly OPPO DVD player will upscale standard def DVD's into a most acceptable 1080p/60 on my TV. It would really be nice if DTV's 1080p could be backwards-compatible to my TV, especially since I got the HR20 at the same time as I bought the TV!.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 10:41 AM

My 58" Panasonic Viera Plasma that was made in the Summer of 2007 and cost darned near $4000 at the time most definitely DOES NOT support DirecTV's flavor of 1080p @ 24FPS. My Samsung Blu-Ray player DOES output 1080p @ 60FPS, and produces the usual beautiful picture on my TV. Even my lowly OPPO DVD player will upscale standard def DVD's into a most acceptable 1080p/60 on my TV. It would really be nice if DTV's 1080p could be backwards-compatible to my TV, especially since I got the HR20 at the same time as I bought the TV!.


If your HDTV does not support a native 1080P/24 Hz program your HR20 will recognize this during its setup for supported resolutions of your TV to automatically convert such programs to 1080i/60 Hz

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 10:52 AM

Well......to add a VOD Channel you need to subscribe to it, and when you subscribe to a channel it shows when you browse by channel....

But......even if you subscribe to HD Extra pack, there is no VOD channel you can add for MGM and Sony.

(Again) But......when you peruse the PPV movies you see content on an MGM channel and a Sony Channel (whether you've got HD Extra Pack or not). Usually this content is in HD, occasionally it's in 1080P.

As far as I know, it's the only 1080P programming available free of charge.

Has anyone figured out a smart search that will only list the MGM or Sony VOD titles? Is it even possible?




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