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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q1 2011 Thread)


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#2121 OFFLINE   oldfantom

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 08:11 AM

So, Are you saying that the fact that it was a 3D set it negatively affected the 2D picture quality to the point that you felt it necessary to return the set? :confused:


My non 3D set was about a $1000 less. There is other technology in that set, I will grant you, besides the 3D. But it just was not worth it to me to watch gimmick movies. My understanding of live 3D events is that the technology is rather immature and not of the same quality you see in the movies. Long and short of it is this, I saw Jaws 3D (the revenge) in theaters, that is enough 3D for a lifetime.
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#2122 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 10:24 AM

Over the past few years it appears that DirecTV's main concern is over their being the only provider of Sunday Ticket.

I haven't seen anything in writing, but I wonder if the high cost to DirecTV, from the NFL, for ST is the reason for the slow down of new national HD. Could their cost for ST be more than their income from it, causing them to pay for it from other areas?

Just my thoughts, because there has to be some reason for the big slow down of national HD, when DISH and the cable companies are still adding them.


Seriously doubt this. Again, we can go into this but not every channel is on every provider. Fios has some channels DirecTV does not while DirecTV has channels Fios does not. Same with Dish. Comcast is a hot mess. A lot in some places, little in others.

DirecTV's accent is on sports, yes, more so than the other providers but I am sure that the NFL deal stands on its own merit either in terms of making its own money or in terms of bringing in customers to get other services.

BTW, their approach is working. They are still gaining customers both grossly and net while others are not (Dish is reeling in terms of net losses, for example). That their approach is working rather than a bogey man NFL deal as the reason.
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Posted 28 February 2011 - 10:28 AM

It's only going to get better I would guess. Passive glasses soon then no glasses. It's a novelty and fun to watch for a little while but I couldn't watch it for a whole evening, I'd rather watch really good HD.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 12:25 PM

I don't know if its badly tuned sets, but I have watched 3D on some demo sets at Costco and the picture has the 3D effect in the foreground, but the background looked so flat it was disturbing. I have seen much better pictures on good HD sets.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 04:39 PM

3D thread: http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=174894

This is the (non-3D) HD anticipation thread.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 08:48 PM

I don't know if its badly tuned sets, but I have watched 3D on some demo sets at Costco and the picture has the 3D effect in the foreground, but the background looked so flat it was disturbing. I have seen much better pictures on good HD sets.


I have a feeling that the active 3D shutter glasses are not charged in most of those demo units. Costco is a horrible enough environment to demo TVs as it is (bright flood lights, most of the TVs mounted or displayed at heights that cause noticeable color shifting with LCD sets, most of the TVs set to overly bright and sharp factor defaults, etc.).

The 3D demos require more attention to detail (i.e., keep the glasses charged, keep them clean, setup the demo at the correct distances, and make sure that the viewing is at a straight on angle. They frankly don't care if the TVs are correctly setup. Those 3D displays probably worked right the first day, and then they just ignored it afterwards. At least, the Best Buy stores in my area keep the glasses charged and take reasonable care of their 3D demo units.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 10:28 PM

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 10:30 PM

My non 3D set was about a $1000 less. There is other technology in that set, I will grant you, besides the 3D. But it just was not worth it to me to watch gimmick movies. My understanding of live 3D events is that the technology is rather immature and not of the same quality you see in the movies. Long and short of it is this, I saw Jaws 3D (the revenge) in theaters, that is enough 3D for a lifetime.


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Posted 28 February 2011 - 10:40 PM

So, Are you saying that the fact that it was a 3D set it negatively affected the 2D picture quality to the point that you felt it necessary to return the set? :confused:


No, the 3D capability had nothing to do with that decision. The only 3D ready set I could afford was a rear projection DLP. For about $400 more, I got a 120hz 60" LCD that had a LOT better picture (the DLP lost focus on a crosshatch pattern about 10" from the edge, and got progressively worse as you went to the edge. There were no convergence controls on it.
I was just very unhappy with it, so I returned it. Did not have anything to do with the 3D tho. To get the set I ended up buying in a 3D version, however, would have set me back almost 100% more.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 10:48 PM

No, the 3D capability had nothing to do with that decision. The only 3D ready set I could afford was a rear projection DLP. For about $400 more, I got a 120hz 60" LCD that had a LOT better picture (the DLP lost focus on a crosshatch pattern about 10" from the edge, and got progressively worse as you went to the edge. There were no convergence controls on it.
I was just very unhappy with it, so I returned it. Did not have anything to do with the 3D tho. To get the set I ended up buying in a 3D version, however, would have set me back almost 100% more.


Unfortunately, the DLPs are very individual per unit. If you'd got a replacement it might have been much better. . . or maybe not. One of those things where you take your chances if you are willing to undergo the possibility of significant frustration and effort in dealing with retailers and vendors in exchange for a significantly lower price.

I wrote the FAQ on AVS for the 2009 Mits DLP lineup. :)

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 10:58 PM

I saw Jaws 3D (the revenge) in theaters, that is enough 3D for a lifetime. +1


LMFAO!!!!! That was actually on a few weeks back and I watched it. Cheezy goodness!!!! :lol: Lea Thompson was hot though. :hurah:
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Posted 28 February 2011 - 11:01 PM

I wrote the FAQ on AVS for the 2009 Mits DLP lineup. :)


I could see where there could be a possibility of a great picture if you happened to get one with everything aligned correctly out of the box, but I was dealing with Amazon. We have no local dealers. I didnt think Amazon would appreciate free shipping me 60" sets until I found one that was perfect, and I couldnt afford to hire someone to come take a new set apart and align mirrors, or however they do that now. I just remembered my last rear projector, and how I was always having to reconverge it as it aged, and thought that would have been corrected by now. Maybe I just got unlucky. After returning that one, I bought a 60" Sharp Aquos on sale at Best Buy, and *THAT* one was DOA when I plugged it in. I spent a whole weekend unpacking and packing 60" TV's :) Third time was a charm. Perfect picture, no stuck or dead pixels, sharp from edge to edge. The 3D would have been nice, but I would have had to step up to a Quattron or Sony, at 3K+.

I really like HD, and am perfectly content. If DirecTv adds the top 10 on the recent poll, I can cancel Xfinity, and be a happy camper.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 11:01 PM

Anybody smell any new HD coming

Soon.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 12:05 AM

So, it's now Tuesday. What happened to Sixto?

Did he:

1) Fall in love?
2) Get a new job?
3) Go on a bender?
4) Suddenly realize 1,461 was a really big number?

I could hope for #1, but he might already be married, and then the explanations could be awkward. . .

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 12:08 AM

Anybody smell any new HD coming


I know I'm gonna get mocked for this. . but personally I've been groovin' on the HD VoD for HBO and Cinemax that just became available.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:58 AM

Anybody smell any new HD coming


I'm sensing truTV HD. Plus a few more. At some point during the year 2011.

#2137 OFFLINE   bluegras

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 05:41 AM

well directv has seen that list of the survey here on dbstalk and i think they will add the top 10 from that list.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 06:25 AM

I know I'm gonna get mocked for this. . but personally I've been groovin' on the HD VoD for HBO and Cinemax that just became available.


Don't feel bad, I've downloaded several movies from both in the last week as well. Apparently the PQ is better anyway.

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#2139 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 07:08 AM

So, it's now Tuesday. What happened to Sixto? ...

All is well. The numbers are final ... I was thinking that I might want to analyze the data some more, but seems like the totals speak for themselves ...
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 07:14 AM

well directv has seen that list of the survey here on dbstalk and i think they will add the top 10 from that list.


is it like the surveys they come to in my house for?...

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it'll be looked at and said "oh yeah look at that.."
then it'll be on an endtable somewhere....forgotten...but noted!


will it matter at all?

really guys I can get a cab in the middle of Times Square on a Friday or Saturday night quicker, than some movement for new HD additions..Soon..........in the Directv world means a promisory polite not today....


However, DirecTV has my money gladly...and willingly and that is ONLY because of the ABUNDANCE of Sports in HD, on the PPV packages respectively..and on the RSN's. I will never criticize them for that, they have me and my money...

As for their stance of adding new HD's both National & Premium channels..unless its a PPV channel they can reap $$ from (and yes trekkies I KNOW a PPV channel doesn't cost D* anything) to add plain & simple --> they suck....

fanboy this stance anyone that flys the flag for DirecTV but they do suck for HD additions my other option is Time Warner and they added HD's more often than D* did in 2010...ahh but the D* Sports HD offerings ....sigh

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Edited by Santi360HD, 01 March 2011 - 07:28 AM.





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