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DIRECTV Completes Six Retransmission Deals


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#26 OFFLINE   tvjay

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:31 PM

It is my understanding that the stations (owners) actually control whether or not the signal gets polled. So, if the station feels they have reached an agreement, the signal does not get pulled. That doesn't mean if DirecTV refuses at a later date to sign it, it won't get pulled, it just means it won't get pulled tonight.
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#27 OFFLINE   QuickDrop

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:52 PM

Ah yes, there it is:
http://www.wtnzfox43.com/


Basically, it's looking like Raycom is good to go now. May not be signed until the new year as it's getting late, but it seems to be done.


It seems like Raycom is positioning themselves to have the public's sympathy if negotiations aren't settled. All their statement says is they have a document that they feel good about and DirecTV hasn't signed it. Nothing suggests DirecTV wants to sign it, but the statement makes it appear that if the Raycom channels go dark DirecTV is at fault.

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:55 PM

It seems like Raycom is positioning themselves to have the public's sympathy if negotiations aren't settled. All their statement says is they have a document that they feel good about and DirecTV hasn't signed it. Nothing suggests DirecTV wants to sign it, but the statement makes it appear that if the Raycom channels go dark DirecTV is at fault.


another question. why was raycom not mentioned at all in the press release?

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 11:11 PM

Looks like we lose our Fox channel here in Richland WA (Yakima)

Guess i shouldn't be hopeful that they will add Fox in HD around here anytime soon if they are pulling the SD channel!!

I guess its time to get an antenna installed on the roof

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 01:19 AM

more info regarding the northwest broadcasting/ directv issue.
http://support.direc...ating/related/1
Our agreement with Northwest, the owner of your local broadcast station(s), expired on 12/31/10. After months of radio silence and ignoring our requests to talk about the agreement, Northwest contacted us at the eleventh hour and demanded that we accept a 600% increase in fees. We of course declined that offer because we can't ask our customers to absorb such an increase. We responded with a fair counter offer and they flatly refused to accept it. Now that our agreement has expired, Northwest has demanded that we take their channels down even though we asked them to keep the local station(s) up while we continue to negotiate.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 01:40 AM

another question. why was raycom not mentioned at all in the press release?


Because a deal hasn't been signed or agreed to. Raycom basically only says they are waiting for DirecTV to agree to their latest offer, not that the two have agreed on anything. It's worded to make DirecTV look like the bad guys if they don't agree to Raycom's terms.

It's similar to the DirecTV's press release at the top of this thread. Despite having a title that suggests at least some talk about the deals DirecTV did get done, the entire point of the article is all about how horrible Northwest Broadcast is.

In both cases, the intent is to "play" the public who could hurt by a lack of a deal; in the first instance, to be against DirecTV, in the second, to be pro-DirecTV

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 01:53 AM

I just emailed this:

Stop trying to extort money from directv. And you know very well that $5 a month they charge for locals includes the fiber line to their uplink facility which aint cheap, as well as the equipment to rebroadcast your station which is operating on public airwaves. You should be ashamed of yourself trying to mislead your customers like that. And no, I dont work for DirecTv, but Im sick of my bills going up because of stations like yours.


to http://www.myfoxspokane.com/

in reference to the misleading info on their website which made it sound as if DirecTv was collecting $5 a month from customers to watch their free station.... If others were to email them, they might get the message, and when its your stations turn, they might think twice.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 02:07 AM

KFFX has yet to be taken down. I'm wondering if it won't happen tell 6am eastern time.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 02:10 AM

Nope they took it down, but have another station group mentioned on the screen.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 07:01 AM

The first thing I did this morning was to tune to 40-1 and what do I see but the DirecTV logo and the channel ID showing 40-1 Alerts. I panicked and then did a channel up and there was my OTA version. Of course, ch 40 shows the info screen. I think that it's weird that DirecTV would force a second 40-1 just to show a large DirecTV logo. I guess they want to make sure that their subscribers would get the message.
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Posted 01 January 2011 - 07:44 AM

It seems like Raycom is positioning themselves to have the public's sympathy if negotiations aren't settled. All their statement says is they have a document that they feel good about and DirecTV hasn't signed it. Nothing suggests DirecTV wants to sign it, but the statement makes it appear that if the Raycom channels go dark DirecTV is at fault.


That is the feeling I go from reading the statement too. Another possibility is that the agreement was automatically renewed as DirecTV claimed and Raycom is trying to not look as stupid since the stations are still up.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 09:17 AM

bingo, I suspect you are correct
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Posted 01 January 2011 - 09:42 AM

wxix is still on in cincinnati

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 09:43 AM

All Ye of little faith. :D;)
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Posted 01 January 2011 - 09:45 AM

All Ye of little faith. :D;)


I don't know how long it will be on. but lets hope directv and raycom come to an agreement.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 09:58 AM

I just emailed this:

Stop trying to extort money from directv. And you know very well that $5 a month they charge for locals includes the fiber line to their uplink facility which aint cheap, as well as the equipment to rebroadcast your station which is operating on public airwaves. You should be ashamed of yourself trying to mislead your customers like that. And no, I dont work for DirecTv, but Im sick of my bills going up because of stations like yours.



to http://www.myfoxspokane.com/

in reference to the misleading info on their website which made it sound as if DirecTv was collecting $5 a month from customers to watch their free station.... If others were to email them, they might get the message, and when its your stations turn, they might think twice.

I guess I was lucky with Hearst, as I didn't need to do this, but wanted to.
I had the notice being displayed and tried their website [per their message], but they had nothing but a story about this from Dec. 12th. I figured they might/should have had a place to post, but they didn't.

Not sure why DirecTV is even being charged for what is received from them OTA [in this market].
I can understand costs for fiber links etc., but for DirecTV to be simply "my antenna" and me being below the FCC minimum signal level, unless DirecTV were to not air all the commercials from this station, I really can't find a reason for charging a fee to retransmit their signal. The station simply gets more viewers to what they are broadcasting over the air.
This is the same station that won't issue waivers for those like me that can't get their signal with a large antenna and TVfool shows their signal power is -122.6 dBm.
They seem to want their cake, eat it too, and then charge DirecTV [us] also.
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Posted 01 January 2011 - 10:09 AM

As of 10:00 AM January 1st, My Local NBC Channel is still on the air, WMC TV 5 Memphis. It says at their website "Raycom Media, this station's parent company, has been in good faith negotiations with DirecTV to ensure the continued availability of this television station and the popular news and entertainment programs you enjoy on DirecTV.

Raycom has agreed in writing to substantially all the terms mutually negotiated to keep this station on DirecTV's service. Raycom has sent DirecTV a signed agreement for DirecTV to execute. We are awaiting DirecTV's signature on the agreement." So I am assuming the ball is now in DirecTv's Court to either sign the deal or pull the plug on programming. Come On DirecTv Sign it so I won't have to worry about this station getting yanked. NFL Wildcard Saturday is next weekend and I would be Madder than HELL if I could not see the playoffs come next weekend.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 10:36 AM

As of 10:00 AM January 1st, My Local NBC Channel is still on the air, WMC TV 5 Memphis. It says at their website "Raycom Media, this station's parent company, has been in good faith negotiations with DirecTV to ensure the continued availability of this television station and the popular news and entertainment programs you enjoy on DirecTV.

Raycom has agreed in writing to substantially all the terms mutually negotiated to keep this station on DirecTV's service. Raycom has sent DirecTV a signed agreement for DirecTV to execute. We are awaiting DirecTV's signature on the agreement." So I am assuming the ball is now in DirecTv's Court to either sign the deal or pull the plug on programming. Come On DirecTv Sign it so I won't have to worry about this station getting yanked. NFL Wildcard Saturday is next weekend and I would be Madder than HELL if I could not see the playoffs come next weekend.


use ota or cable if the directv pulls the plug

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 10:54 AM

I expect the Raycom channels to stay on .. There really shouldn't be anything to worry about with them.
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Posted 01 January 2011 - 11:05 AM

DIRECTV Completes Six Retransmission Deals; Northwest Broadcasting Only Station Owner to Black Out Local Channels in Attempt to Extract Outrageous 600% Increase


600%?

I am with DirecTV on this one..... 600% is outrageous! Maybe if the local population of the area has grown so much that the station can carry better advertising and thus programming.... maybe then it would be justified to increase the fees by doubling them..... but 600%??
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Posted 01 January 2011 - 12:34 PM

That is the feeling I go from reading the statement too. Another possibility is that the agreement was automatically renewed as DirecTV claimed and Raycom is trying to not look as stupid since the stations are still up.


Yeah. I just got around to reading D* earlier statement that Raycom contract doesn't officially end until the end of 2011.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 01:49 PM

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 02:11 PM

I don't understand why local stations should receive compensation from DirecTV at all.

DirecTV charges $5 for local channels - multiple local channels. If DirecTV is paying for the fiber link to get the feed of the channel, the channel should be GREATFUL that DirecTV is increasing their viewership. And I say that because a lot of people that get their locals over satellite can't get OTA signals even with a rooftop antenna. Therefore, they pick up viewers.

The local stations are just being stupid - they are trying to reduce their viewership not increase their audience. I'm pretty sure local stations can ask for more money for advertising if they have 200,000 viewers instead of 100,000 versions in a given market. I'm sure they wouldn't decrease their fee to DirecTV if they get more advertising revenue due to satellite carriage of the channel.

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Posted 01 January 2011 - 02:23 PM

I'm not sure what NorthWest is getting now, but if it's $0.15/sub, now they want over $0.90/sub.

I probably get a lot more local channels here in the SF Bay Area than these smaller markets. Perhaps Northwest is using the logic that "there's only a couple of stations in our DMA .. You should be paying us a bigger chunk of that fixed-rate local channel pie since there's not as many channels to spread around."

What's more likely the case is that some of the larger markets (like mine) are subsidizing the smaller markets.
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Posted 01 January 2011 - 02:40 PM

I'm not sure what NorthWest is getting now, but if it's $0.15/sub, now they want over $0.90/sub.

...and despite that kind of data...remarkably....a number of folks don't recognize the greed and blame their sat company. Unreal.

Perhaps they will someday break out the local HD channel costs in separate cost pricing models to recoup those variations, which of course will also expose the higher-cost areas based on the exhorbitant prices for those.
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