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My first -- and last -- impression of 1080P on DirecTV


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#1 OFFLINE   MRinDenver

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 09:43 AM

Over the weekend, I tired of football for a while and decided to take advantage of DirecTv's anniversary offer. I downloaded a 1080P pay-for-view movie.

We chose "The American". Loved the movie, was disappointed with the PQ.

My lesson? Stick with Blu-ray.

Anyone have a a better experience?
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#2 OFFLINE   sigma1914

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 09:51 AM

I've watched a few (3-4) 1080p movies & think the PQ is very good, but not as good as BR.
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 09:55 AM

In my experience no service provider can match the picture and sound quality of BluRay.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:09 AM

No service provider will give you 30-50 Mbs!

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:31 AM

I finally broke down and tried a 1080p movie yesterday, the extended cut of ATeam. Picture quality was OK, but I was disappointed that the audio did not trigger my surround decoder for PCM. It was in in 2 channel stereo. I too, will stick to blu ray for movies, especially since I pay about 2.50 a disc with my Netflix vs the 5.99 that movie cost me. Before anyone tries the "You have to wait" argument, I do not mind the 30 day delay.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:40 AM

No service provider will give you 30-50 Mbs!


Exactly.

No service can match, or even come close, to the bandwidth that a locally-attached Blu-Ray player has. VoD downloads have an average bitrate of about 8 Mb/s, with peaks as high as 12 MB/s or so, plus, they were encoded using multi-pass encoding over hours or even days, to allow the very best quality to be squeezed out and still have a relatively low bitrate. But a Blu-Ray can sustain 40 Mb/s, with peaks of 50 Mb/s! That's an average of FIVE TIMES the bitrate of a VoD file, and even more than a "live" linear channel, which has a further disadvantage of being compressed in real time, which means the compression isn't as optimized. It's like drinking out of a firehose instead of a garden hose.

Expecting anything else to compare well against Blu-Ray is, well, kind of silly. Not only does Blu-Ray have tons of bitrate, it can also do UNCOMPRESSED 7.1 channel audio too! It really is a home theater buff's dream format. But if that is your quality "standard", you won't be happy with a movie delivered any other way.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:41 AM

It looks as if DIRECTV updated their 1080P verbiage too.

I just checked, it now states: "the same stunning format as blu-ray".

For the longest time it stated: " the same stunning quality as blu-ray"

At least they're trying to be more honest. :P

But, I do agree with you all. DIRECTV does not come close to the A/V quality of a good blu-ray.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:44 AM

I watched The American this weekend, I did not download but selected the one in the guide with a check, It looked very good and better than any on demand I have seen from cable but not as good as blue ray.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:48 AM

[...] But, I do agree with you all. DIRECTV does not come close to the A/V quality of a good blu-ray.

And based on limited testing here, from a normal viewing distance of 8'-10', it looks pretty much the same as the excellent MPEG-4 1080i DirecTV usually delivers to my 65" display. So why charge more for it?

I wonder if any 1080p "surcharge" comes from DirecTV or the studios? :scratchin
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:59 AM

Also, doesn't it go down to 1080i if the set is 1080p/60 and doesn't support /24?

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 11:02 AM

And based on limited testing here, from a normal viewing distance of 8'-10', it looks pretty much the same as the excellent MPEG-4 1080i DirecTV usually delivers to my 65" display. So why charge more for it?

I wonder if any 1080p "surcharge" comes from DirecTV or the studios? :scratchin


Yeah, it is silly to charge more. I guess they charge more because they can. To me it just doesn't make sense to pay more, have a 24 hour limitation, and lose A/V quality. Netflix is the hands-down smart choice.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 11:03 AM

Also, doesn't it go down to 1080i if the set is 1080p/60 and doesn't support /24?


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Posted 03 January 2011 - 12:43 PM

Watched "Inception" in 1080p last week. No complaints about the picture quality. I thought it looked comparable to a Blu-ray disc.
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 12:56 PM

Netflix is the hands-down smart choice.


Really all depends on how much time one can devote to watching movies.

I don't have the time to dedicate to watching movies nor do I know when or how many I am going to watch. Most months, Mrs. Fluffybear and I are lucky to even watch 1 movie. There are a number of times, Mrs. Fluffybear and I plan to watch a PPV and 60 minutes later we still have not ordered it because we get involved with something else.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 01:06 PM

In my experience no service provider can match the picture and sound quality of BluRay.


I got a BluRay player for Christmas, i've never been a big movie fan, but after watching BluRay's on a 15 inch HDTV over the weekend, with a bigger HDTV that's hooked up to surround sound or a good stereo, I can certainly become a movie fan ;)

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 03:53 PM

Watched "Inception" in 1080p last week. No complaints about the picture quality. I thought it looked comparable to a Blu-ray disc.


It also depends on the person. Not everyone can easily tell the difference. Some are more tuned to the audio. I haven't watched Inception on Demand, but the Blu sounds incredible.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 03:58 PM

I watched a VUDO HDX Movie last week and was Very Pleased as my wife was also and the Audio and PQ was Outstanding so I will try it again after I get back from CES in Vegas to see it the next movie is as Good!!!
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 05:53 PM

No service provider will give you 30-50 Mbs!


WHY ?!!

VOD does overnight DL and you play it with the 50 Mbps peaks all day !

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 06:08 PM

Could DTV come close to blueray quality video if they combined all the transponder space that use to start the same movie on a million channels at different times.

say we get about 10 mbs per transponder, can we combine say 6 transponders at get 60 mbs ??

They gots lots of free space on D12!! They just need some video engineers to split that over a couple transponders and we should be good to go!

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 06:13 PM

Could DTV come close to blueray quality video if they combined all the transponder space that use to start the same movie on a million channels at different times.

say we get about 10 mbs per transponder, can we combine say 6 transponders at get 60 mbs ??

They gots lots of free space on D12!! They just need some video engineers to split that over a couple transponders and we should be good to go!


Why ? Just if they will make overnight copies from native BR disks to your DVR's drive... You will get full blown PQ ans sound !




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