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#1 OFFLINE   Nick

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:18 PM

...by the speed at which technology is advancing. I mean, the rate of progress is increasing faster than (not then) I can keep up, er, decide, uh, buy.

Signed up for Netflix streaming to replace four premium movie packages, but first I 'tested streaming movies to my laptop. I had planned to get the Roku box for my main tv, but by then I learned about built-in tv apps coming so I decided to wait. Now, I've just heard that this year new tvs would have a big red Netflix button on the remote so, again, I decide to wait.

Meanwhile, I'm relegated to watching the same four crap premium HD movie channels on Comcast cable, while waiting for the next Netflix, or magic golden streaming, or whatever, improvement.

He who hesitates is... :whatdidid

EDIT 1/10/11: Someone here who knows me and is aware of my recent medical history (mild stroke in '05 ) has gently chided me for using the word "paralyzed" in the title of this thread. Fact is, I'm fine, and am doing pretty damn good for an old man who walks with a limp and types with one hand. For anyone who 'knows' me and may have had a moment of concern about my condition before opening the thread, I humbly apologize.


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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:27 PM

That's the thing about Netflix... I've tried to specifically search for dozens of movies that they don't have available for streaming.

They do have a large library available for online viewing... but if you target specific movie titles, you might be disappointed.

A bunch of movies I was going to recommend my father watch, I searched for and found them unavailable... though in the meantime he has found a bunch of movies that he has enjoyed watching through random or genre searches.

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:32 PM

I'm curious why you would wait just to have a Netflix button on a remote? It's just usually 2-3 button presses to get Netflix loaded depending on the device.
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 01:24 AM

One thing about it, no one option is for everyone. But I understand as I constantly am thinking there's something better for me out there.

I've explored all options and decided the best I can do from our perspective is the core package I subscribe to with Dish (it could be any provider appropriate for you, Dish just works for me) and the premiums they offer. It's a bit spendy.

But either I'm going to go to the movie when it comes out because it is so important to my existence (that's less than one a year) or wait until it's on a premium. I don't want to deal with carting or mailing DVD's back and forth or struggling through the various lists of movies to stream or finally getting "it" a couple of months before its on HBO.

Nor do I want to wait until next year to see the U.S. version of "Shameless" or "Boardwalk Empire" or other award winning series because I might be dead next year.

For me, the network web sites and HULU offer streaming opportunities when for whatever reason my recording screws up. That's what streaming offers me.

So the big red Netflix button has not entered into my decision making.;)

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 11:44 AM

...by the speed at which technology is advancing. I mean, the rate of progress is increasing faster than (not then) I can keep up, er, decide, uh, buy.

Signed up for Netflix streaming to replace four premium movie packages, but first I 'tested streaming movies to my laptop. I had planned to get the Roku box for my main tv, but by then I learned about built-in tv apps coming so I decided to wait. Now, I've just heard that this year new tvs would have a big red Netflix button on the remote so, again, I decide to wait.

Meanwhile, I'm relegated to watching the same crap premium movie channels on Comcast cable, while waiting for the next Netflix, or magic golden streaming, or whatever, improvement.

He who hesitates is... :whatdidid


Nick, I've tried the Rokus, various BD players and the best of the bunch is the BD65 from Panasonic. It plays all formats of NetFlix streaming content, including the old 4:3 shows (it's the only device that I've found that plays them as they were meant to be viewed), upscales all content to 1080/60p and is easy to use. I also have a Samsung sound system/BD player that upscales wide screen content (both streaming and DVD) better than the Panny BD65 does. But, for all around good PQ and proper aspects, the BD65 is the best. And it's about the same price as a Roku. Here's a link.

Just checked the price and they have bumped it up to $139. I only paid $103 before Xmas. BB has it for $119.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 11:55 AM

Nick, I've tried the Rokus, various BD players and the best of the bunch is the BD65 from Panasonic. It plays all formats of NetFlix streaming content, including the old 4:3 shows (it's the only device that I've found that plays them as they were meant to be viewed), upscales all content to 1080/60p and is easy to use. I also have a Samsung sound system/BD player that upscales wide screen content (both streaming and DVD) better than the Panny BD65 does. But, for all around good PQ and proper aspects, the BD65 is the best. And it's about the same price as a Roku. Here's a link.

Just checked the price and they have bumped it up to $139. I only paid $103 before Xmas. BB has it for $119.

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How well does your Samsung BD player work with Netflix? I have a C5500 and it has had some issues but with the latest firmware it handles Netflix quite well. For streaming videos from a computer it simetimes hiccups on MKV files and occasionally can't deal with AR correctly, but it does better than my Directv DVRs (which isn't saying much).

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:12 PM

How well does your Samsung BD player work with Netflix? I have a C5500 and it has had some issues but with the latest firmware it handles Netflix quite well. For streaming videos from a computer it simetimes hiccups on MKV files and occasionally can't deal with AR correctly, but it does better than my Directv DVRs (which isn't saying much).


My Sammy sound system/BD player is an HT-C5500. I guess that means Home Theater (HT) with a C5500 BD player. So we've got the same BD players. I don't use my computers to stream video content, so I can't comment on that.

For NetFlix wide screen streaming content it gives a slightly better upscaled picture than the BD65, but when watching an older show, like the first few seasons of L&O SVU, the Sammy doesn't get the aspect (4:3) right, but the BD65 does. I've ended up with one of my BD65s sitting on top of the HT-C5500 for that reason.

I only bought the Sammy sound system/BD player because the sound system on my Panny plasma was driving me nuts and my wife didn't want a really big sound system in the master bedroom that would cause the whole house to shake like my three other sound systems do. Little did I know that the Sammy puts out 165W per channel on 3 ohm speakers and has a passive sub-woofer that actually works. It shakes the house too. :lol:

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:22 PM

There are so many ways to view netflix these days that there's really no reason to hold off for a Netflix button or TV with built in Netflix App.

Plug a desktop PC into your HDTV, you have a netflix player, plug a laptop into your HDTV, you have a netflix player, buy a used PS3/360/Wii, you have a netflix player, buy a cheap BD player, you have a netflix player, stream Netflix from your PC to your DVR with Playon, etc.

Looking at my entertainment center, I have at least 5 different ways to watch Netflix. Pity the service isn't worth subscribing to.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:27 PM

There are so many ways to view netflix these days that there's really no reason to hold off for a Netflix button or TV with built in Netflix App.

Plug an old PC into your TV, you have a netflix player, buy a used PS3/360/Wii, you have a netflix player, buy a cheap BD player, you have a netflix player, stream Netflix from your PC to your DVR with Playon, etc.

Looking at my entertainment center, I have at least 5 different ways to watch Netflix. Pity the service isn't worth subscribing to.


Read your whole post and agreed with everything you said except for the comment: Pity the service isn't worth subscribing to.

Gotta disagree with you there. We have two NF accounts and many ways to stream NF and we all watch as much NF content as we do D* content. What don't you like about it?

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:38 PM

Is it still cut off Netflix streaming after FW updating to v1.43 ?

Nick, I've tried the Rokus, various BD players and the best of the bunch is the BD65 from Panasonic. It plays all formats of NetFlix streaming content, including the old 4:3 shows (it's the only device that I've found that plays them as they were meant to be viewed), upscales all content to 1080/60p and is easy to use. I also have a Samsung sound system/BD player that upscales wide screen content (both streaming and DVD) better than the Panny BD65 does. But, for all around good PQ and proper aspects, the BD65 is the best. And it's about the same price as a Roku. Here's a link.

Just checked the price and they have bumped it up to $139. I only paid $103 before Xmas. BB has it for $119.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 01:45 PM

There are so many ways to view netflix these days that there's really no reason to hold off for a Netflix button or TV with built in Netflix App.

Plug a desktop PC into your HDTV, you have a netflix player, plug a laptop into your HDTV, you have a netflix player, buy a used PS3/360/Wii, you have a netflix player, buy a cheap BD player, you have a netflix player, stream Netflix from your PC to your DVR with Playon, etc.

Looking at my entertainment center, I have at least 5 different ways to watch Netflix. Pity the service isn't worth subscribing to.


I disagree with that statment as well. The Netflix Starz Play was just one of the reasons we subscribed to Netflix. That one feature alone makes Netflix cost effective for us. For anyone that rents movies (and wants actual Blue Ray quality) I just don't know of a better option...
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 02:05 PM

Without giving it one moment of research, are the Netflix movies in HD?

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 02:07 PM

Without giving it one moment of research, are the Netflix movies in HD?


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Posted 09 January 2011 - 03:15 PM

Read your whole post and agreed with everything you said except for the comment: Pity the service isn't worth subscribing to.

Gotta disagree with you there. We have two NF accounts and many ways to stream NF and we all watch as much NF content as we do D* content. What don't you like about it?

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Eh, it's an opinion.

I've subscribed to Netflix on and off over the years, and the added cost of Blu-Ray, and lack of movies that interest me on their streaming service has made me look for alternative sources for renting movies.

Red Box, Blockbuster Online, etc have all given me better value for my money than Netflix has, not to mention in some cases, getting the movies much sooner.

I'd probably be a lot more interested if I didn't subscribe to D* and Comcast (for locals in HD) or watch Hulu, making all the TV shows they have for streaming meaningful.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 03:24 PM

I disagree with that statment as well. The Netflix Starz Play was just one of the reasons we subscribed to Netflix. That one feature alone makes Netflix cost effective for us. For anyone that rents movies (and wants actual Blue Ray quality) I just don't know of a better option...


Blu-Ray quality streaming over the internet? Or do you mean renting Blu-Rays?

I like Blockbuster Online for renting BDs, no increased price for renting BDs, and don't have to wait a month for new releases, and the turn around time is only one day longer than Netflix (no service is gonna be perfect), and they also offer game rentals as part of the plan (no streaming service, but going by Netflix selection, meh, I don't miss it).

Plus I don't rent a lot of movies usually, I have cable/satellite which most of the year provides more than enough content.

Note: My opinion of Netflix will change once they have 95%+ new releases on their streaming service, in true BD quality (ok maybe the true BD quality is pushing it, I don't really care THAT much about HD, but I do want most new movies to be on the service before I resubscribe to it).

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:49 PM

Blu-Ray quality streaming over the internet? Or do you mean renting Blu-Rays?

I like Blockbuster Online for renting BDs, no increased price for renting BDs, and don't have to wait a month for new releases, and the turn around time is only one day longer than Netflix (no service is gonna be perfect), and they also offer game rentals as part of the plan (no streaming service, but going by Netflix selection, meh, I don't miss it).

Plus I don't rent a lot of movies usually, I have cable/satellite which most of the year provides more than enough content.

Note: My opinion of Netflix will change once they have 95%+ new releases on their streaming service, in true BD quality (ok maybe the true BD quality is pushing it, I don't really care THAT much about HD, but I do want most new movies to be on the service before I resubscribe to it).


I was referring to renting in regards to the Blue Ray discs. The difference is probably the fact that you don't rent a lot of movies then. We have the one out at a time plan with Netflix and we can easily get 2 movies a week (sometimes more.) Our turn-around time has always been a day (probably a perk of living in a big city) and the streaming is enough for us (as I said the Starz Play eliminates the need for us to subscribe to Starz.)

With the bit rates required you're not going to see anybody stream BD for a LONG time. Since Netflix can stream in HD I find that sufficient as a streaming option.
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 05:10 PM

My Sammy sound system/BD player is an HT-C5500. I guess that means Home Theater (HT) with a C5500 BD player. So we've got the same BD players. I don't use my computers to stream video content, so I can't comment on that.

For NetFlix wide screen streaming content it gives a slightly better upscaled picture than the BD65, but when watching an older show, like the first few seasons of L&O SVU, the Sammy doesn't get the aspect (4:3) right, but the BD65 does. I've ended up with one of my BD65s sitting on top of the HT-C5500 for that reason.

I only bought the Sammy sound system/BD player because the sound system on my Panny plasma was driving me nuts and my wife didn't want a really big sound system in the master bedroom that would cause the whole house to shake like my three other sound systems do. Little did I know that the Sammy puts out 165W per channel on 3 ohm speakers and has a passive sub-woofer that actually works. It shakes the house too. :lol:

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What firmware version does your Sammy have? The recent update to 1020.1 fixed the aspect ratio issues with 4:3 (I also found that the original setup I had was set to stretch 4:3, but it only did that with some movies, not all :confused:). If you have an earlier version, get the update.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 08:55 AM

Is it still cut off Netflix streaming after FW updating to v1.43 ?


Are you talking about the Panny BD65? That only lasted a day or so. They released an FW that wouldn't connect to NF, but quickly fixed it.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:01 AM

Without giving it one moment of research, are the Netflix movies in HD?


If you're renting disks, most of the new and many of the older movies are in BluRay. If you're streaming, only the PS3 gets full HD and 5.1 sound. The rest of the devices, as far as I know, get 720p and PCM sound. That's gonna change soon and they'll be streaming 1080/24p and 5.1 sound to all the devices. The BD players upscale the 720p to 1080/60p very well. Still only PCM sound, tho. Some of the streaming movies are in 720p, some aren't. My Sammy BD player upscales the letterbox non HD content very well, the Pannys don't.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:03 AM

Eh, it's an opinion.

I've subscribed to Netflix on and off over the years, and the added cost of Blu-Ray, and lack of movies that interest me on their streaming service has made me look for alternative sources for renting movies.

Red Box, Blockbuster Online, etc have all given me better value for my money than Netflix has, not to mention in some cases, getting the movies much sooner.

I'd probably be a lot more interested if I didn't subscribe to D* and Comcast (for locals in HD) or watch Hulu, making all the TV shows they have for streaming meaningful.


There is a lot more streaming content than there was just a couple months ago.

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