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The Time-Warner Sports Channels - will Dish bite on Lakers?


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#1 OFFLINE   phrelin

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 03:27 PM

Well, over in the DirecTV forum is a thread Time Warner buys LA Lakers RSN rights, must provide to DBSs which I guess is a logical forum location?

In any event, the LA Times notes:

Time Warner Cable has struck a massive deal with the Los Angeles Lakers to create two regional sports channels that will use the world champs as their backbone.

...One of the two as-yet unnamed cable channels will be Spanish-language network that will have its own production team instead of just being a feed of the English-language channel.

The article notes that TWC's first stop will be DirecTV. Then it notes:

Consumers may feel some pain as a result of the deal. Regional Sports Networks (RSNs) are generally some of the most expensive programming for distributors. Typically, RSNs cost between north of $2.50 per month, per subscriber. Given the high cost of the Lakers, Time Warner Cable will likely be looking for north of $3.50.

...At the same time, Fox Sports West will likely get pressure from Time Warner Cable and other distributors to lower the price of its channel now that will be losing the Lakers.

I can understand why Time Warner Cable did this. It's time for somebody in the cable/satellite business to push back at Fox Sports RSN's and someday ESPN.

Wonder what Charlie will do after contemplating the implications of the change?

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 03:38 PM

The Dodgers contract with FSN PT expires in 2013. Wondering if they too may move to this new RSN? After all, the Dodgers and Lakers are the two most popular pro sports teams in LA. With a Spanish station being one of the RSNs and the Dodgers have a HUGE Mexican fan base, more so than any other team, TWC may not hesitate to fork over money to attract them.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 03:40 PM

Well, over in the DirecTV forum is a thread Time Warner buys LA Lakers RSN rights, must provide to DBSs which I guess is a logical forum location?

In any event, the LA Times notes: The article notes that TWC's first stop will be DirecTV. Then it notes: I can understand why Time Warner Cable did this. It's time for somebody in the cable/satellite business to push back at Fox Sports RSN's and someday ESPN.

Wonder what Charlie will do after contemplating the implications of the change?


Normally competition lowers costs, but when you get major RSNs bidding for major teams, they end up driving up the carriage cost drastically, which eventually translates into higher carriage fees. In this case I do not think an addition RSN will lower RSN carriage cost, it may actually do the opposite

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 04:18 PM

I am a big sports fan, but even I have to say it is time for the people who can watch the RSN pay for it. There will be no stopping the insane cost to Dish or Direct, or for that matter the cable companies until the person paying the bill realizes just how much it costs. When people balk and stop getting the channel then the cost will come down.

As it stands, I will more surprised if Dish carries it than if they don't.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 04:33 PM

Prior to csn starting here in philly, we had prism a premium channel which was 15 bucks amonth.

They carried flyers, phillies, sixers games and also did movies and it was basically like hbo full content.

Im suprised they havent gone back to that yet.

It wouldnt suprise me to see RSN do something like that

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 06:47 PM

I'm all for a SPORT premium package. Let the folks who want to pay for it get it.
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 08:21 PM

I's a sports fan... but I don't want to see a day when teams have their own dedicated channel and you have to pay through the nose for each channel for each team.

I'm even a Lakers fan... but $3.50 for the Lakers channel would be hard to justify when other sports channels cost that or less and cover many more teams.

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 11:41 AM

Well, I hope that if this trend continues that Dish and DirecTV go with regional pricing. RSNs are provided in the base package, and it would be dumb for my price in Alabama to jump because of a high priced RSN in LA that I don't even get.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:17 PM

With the recent Pac-12 deal on Dish, we need to watch this carefully. I think most seasoned Dish subscribers did not expect any sports additions typically (after what has happened in the NY market), but the current leadership appears to be very different.

Personally, I think this is helping lead to a 'justification' for major rate increases in Feb 2013. Especially if other providers don't have the channels in question. As long as they can leave the base packages untouched (sports tiering effectively), this is great news.

If AT120+ get the Laker channel, I may need to go to + from AT120 since I think that would a bargain deal compared to the other cable/sat options.

Still absolutely no provider outside of TW has signed up for this bargain.

To me, the biggest problem for the carriers is too many local market channels with FS channels+Pac+this Lakers channel (plus all of the other national ones). It is way too much burden for any carrier.

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http://www.latimes.c...0,7090219.story (very interesting article on the dynamics including some San Diego related news)

http://in.reuters.co...E88B1KZ20120912



I believe TW is demanding AT120-equivalent carriage, but if FS can be on the + tier, I think Dish will be able to maintain than 'equivalency'.

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