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DirecTV SWiM 16 Installation Diagram


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#1 OFFLINE   dthreet

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:52 PM

Since there are not any good SWiM 16 diagrams, I decided to make one myself… I hope you find it useful…

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#2 OFFLINE   inkahauts

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:48 AM

Nice... Although I have a feeling you can find many diagrams similar in the installation threads.. which is where you might want to post this...

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:34 AM

Nice. One quick note though: when the PI is on the PWR port like that you don't necessarily need a terminator on the PI's IRD port. Put your meter on it, theres no signal there to terminate. But as Dr. Mux always says "Terminate... It will improve your system and make you feel good."
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:40 AM

Hey nice diagram;

Like the vividness of the graphics. But of note also is that your description of the legacy ports as "only" supporting 101, 110, and 119 in parenthesis is not correct, as it will also supply the Ka band frequency blocks for 99 and 103 as well. Which is why the ports can be used to cascade to another SWiM-16.

IOW, the SWiM-16's four legacy ports are the equivalent to the outputs of a wide bandwidth Ka/Ku 4x4 multiswitch.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:48 AM

Thread moved from the General forum to the Installation forum.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 08:43 AM

Hey nice diagram;

Like the vividness of the graphics. But of note also is that your description of the legacy ports as "only" supporting 101, 110, and 119 in parenthesis is not correct, as it will also supply the Ka band frequency blocks for 99 and 103 as well. Which is why the ports can be used to cascade to another SWiM-16.

IOW, the SWiM-16's four legacy ports are the equivalent to the outputs of a wide bandwidth Ka/Ku 4x4 multiswitch.


Yep. In addition, the flexports are inputs and have nothing to do with "cascading SWM switches." They are used to hook a second dish for international or 72.5 locals.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 09:58 AM

And actually I do NOT believe the statement about "max 8 tuners per SWiM port" is correct; you can have any combination of tuners on each port, as long as you do not exceed 16 total tuners across BOTH SWiM ports.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 10:01 AM

And actually I do NOT believe the statement about "max 8 tuners per SWiM port" is correct; you can have any combination of tuners on each port, as long as you do not exceed 16 total tuners across BOTH SWiM ports.


That statement about the Max 8 tuners per SWiM port is absolutely correct.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 10:14 AM

And actually I do NOT believe the statement about "max 8 tuners per SWiM port" is correct; you can have any combination of tuners on each port, as long as you do not exceed 16 total tuners across BOTH SWiM ports.

The SWiM-16 is made up of two SWM8s in one package, so there is a maximum of eight tuners for each of the two outputs.

the only interconnection between the two is for the DECA signal to crossover.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 10:19 AM

The Legacy and Flex Outs can cascade to another SWiM-16, or, among other things, a 6x8 Multiswitch. So the Flex Outs might be used for something other than cascading to another SWiM-16.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 10:29 AM

Hey nice diagram;

Like the vividness of the graphics. But of note also is that your description of the legacy ports as "only" supporting 101, 110, and 119 in parenthesis is not correct, as it will also supply the Ka band frequency blocks for 99 and 103 as well. Which is why the ports can be used to cascade to another SWiM-16.

IOW, the SWiM-16's four legacy ports are the equivalent to the outputs of a wide bandwidth Ka/Ku 4x4 multiswitch.


Thanks, I assumed that the Legacy ports were the same as the SWiM 8. However, that does make since.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 10:31 AM

Thanks, I assumed that the Legacy ports were the same as the SWiM 8. However, that does make since.

This isn't as fancy as yours, but been around for a while:

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 10:34 AM

How about one for the SWM8?

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 10:37 AM

Yep. In addition, the flexports are inputs and have nothing to do with "cascading SWM switches." They are used to hook a second dish for international or 72.5 locals.


Flex Port 1 & 2 out are for cascading. Flex port 1 & 2 are for inputs.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 10:56 AM

How about one for the SWM8?

there is a whole pdf about SWiM here:
http://forums.direct...uleTraining.pdf

From it:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1298393793

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 11:11 AM

Actually all those diagrams are great... DIRECTV's is probably the worst of the lot :lol:
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 11:45 AM

That statement about the Max 8 tuners per SWiM port is absolutely correct.


The SWiM-16 is made up of two SWM8s in one package, so there is a maximum of eight tuners for each of the two outputs.

the only interconnection between the two is for the DECA signal to crossover.


OK, thank you for the clarification on this :blush: :o

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:27 PM

Flex Port 1 & 2 out are for cascading. Flex port 1 & 2 are for inputs.


You're correct. I thought the diagram was referring to the two input flex ports.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:38 PM

"Also" those legacy ports that can be used for cascading have about 10 dB of loss from the SWiM inputs. :(
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 05:26 PM

"Also" those legacy ports that can be used for cascading have about 10 dB of loss from the SWiM inputs. :(


Thanks VOS, I was trying to find my papers where I took my measurements before saying anything about this.
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