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#51 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:29 PM

I gave up on RIM with their announcement of the Torch. This was supposed to be their answer, finally, to the Apple/Android devices. Then they showed us what they had and it was still years behind the competition. What a failure.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:37 PM

I gave up on RIM with their announcement of the Torch. This was supposed to be their answer, finally, to the Apple/Android devices. Then they showed us what they had and it was still years behind the competition. What a failure.

I'd totallly agree that the Torch was a letdown - but that was not going to be their next generation flagship unit anyway. They have 2 new hot devices in the oven....for release in the months ahead. Those two will compete with anything you've seen from Android, and also iOS devices...
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:39 PM

Have you checked into PDAnet for the Blackberry? It allows tethering.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:43 PM

I'd totallly agree that the Torch was a letdown - but that was not going to be their next generation flagship unit anyway. They have 2 new hot devices in the oven....for release in the months ahead. Those two will compete with anything you've seen from Android, and also iOS devices...

Where is the link to support that? As a long time Blackberry user, now ex-user, I would like to see or read about these miracle catch up devices.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:44 PM

I'd totallly agree that the Torch was a letdown - but that was not going to be their next generation flagship unit anyway. They have 2 new hot devices in the oven....for release in the months ahead. Those two will compete with anything you've seen from Android, and also iOS devices...


They had better hope so for their own sake. I have no idea how they are doing in the market, but it will eventually catch up with them if they don't adapt.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:47 PM

Also, I do believe that RIM suggested that the Torch was an attempt to compete with the iPhone. I hope the Storm 3 isn't one of the suggested devices. That one isn't going to cut it either.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:56 PM

Where is the link to support that? As a long time Blackberry user, now ex-user, I would like to see or read about these miracle catch up devices.

I'd be glad to introduce you to the regional VP in my area for RIM - he lives in my subdivision and is "field testing" one of them...so I got a personal "demo".

I suspect if you Google "Blackberry Dakota" or "Blackberry Apollo"....ya just might find out some information.... ;)

Heck even the search on my BB Curve can find it... !rolling
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:01 PM

I'd be glad to introduce you to the regional VP in my area for RIM - he lives in my subdivision and is "field testing" one of them...so I got a personal "demo".

I suspect if you Google "Blackberry Dakota" or "Blackberry Apollo"....ya just might find out some information.... ;)

Heck even the search on my BB Curve can find it... !rolling


I already did and I don't see how either will compete.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:05 PM

I already did and I don't see how either will compete.

Sorry you can't see it.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:08 PM

Sorry you can't see it.


Those specs, of not yet released devices, already fall short of current competition.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:11 PM

I already did and I don't see how either will compete.

Apollo

Rumored Specifications:

* Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE
* Tri-band UMTS/HSPA 7.2Mbps
* Bluetooth 2.1
* Wi-Fi b/g/n
* GPS
* NFC
* 512MB of eMMC, 512MB of RAM
* 5-megapixel camera with flash
* HVGA 480 x 360 display
* 1050 mAh battery
* Tavor MG-1 800MHz CPU
* BlackBerry OS 6.1
* 11mm thin

http://forums.crackb...e-specs-575709/

Dakota

Rumored Specifications:

* Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE
* Tri-band UMTS
* 5 megapixel camera with HD video recording, flash, and image stabilization
* 4GB of built in storage, 768MB of RAM
* 2.8-inch VGA 640 x 480 capacitive screen
* WiFi b,g,n on 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies
* 3G mobile hotspot!
* MicroUSB port
* Bluetooth
* NFC
* Magnetometer
* Accelerometer
* Proximity sensor
* 10.5mm thin
* Launches with BlackBerry OS 6.1

http://forums.crackb...e-specs-575707/


I had already checked those out, I thought Hdtvfan0001 was referring to something really advanced ... not impressed. Plus the OS is behind both Apple and Android. I can't believe RIM is sticking with the Storm name, Storm 3, considering what a disappointment it was, that is like Ford resurrecting the Edsel name.
Sorry Rim, too little and way too late. Hdtvfan0001... stay with Blackberry.. Rim needs all the cheerleaders it can retain.
A 2.8 inch screen... too funny.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:29 PM

I had already checked those out, I thought Hdtvfan0001 was referring to something really advanced ... not impressed. Plus the OS is behind both Apple and Android.

Actually the latest RIM OS is not behind anyone else...in some ways its ahead, and certainly more reliable in terms of using these as a phone....you know...a phone...what they are supposed to be in the first place. :D

With the release of their SDK last year, tons of new apps will also be taking advantage of the power in these new devices.

Then again...those examples were a teaser lead...I'm not gonna do everyone's homework for them to find out all the new goodies coming.

Google even works on most iOS and Android phones. :rolleyes:
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:34 PM

Actually the latest RIM OS is not behind anyone else...in some ways its ahead, and certainly more reliable in terms of using these as a phone....you know...a phone...what they are supposed to be in the first place. :D

With the release of their SDK last year, tons of new apps will also be taking advantage of the power in these new devices.

Then again...those examples were a teaser lead...I'm not gonna do everyone's homework for them to find out all the new goodies coming.

Google even works on most iOS and Android phones. :rolleyes:


I figured you wouldn't provide any specific proof behind your statements. Just giving you a chance to prove your point besides just unfounded statements.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:38 PM

I figured you wouldn't provide any specific proof behind your statements. Just giving you a chance to prove your point besides just unfounded statements.
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So I guess you've never heard of the term NDA before huh?

Even to see the demo I saw required it. There's this concept in business about not sharing new technology before it's released.

Geez....I'd have thought almost everyone knew about that. :rolleyes:

If someone digs enough...you'd be surprised what you can find online.

Must be that Missouri concept - the "show me" state....

Some of us just don't drink iOS / Android Kool Aid in the quantities others do. The fact that a number of iOS and Android phones can't even keep a coherent phone call running points to the idea of caring less about the other razzle dazzle stuff as secondary. Seen that plenty of times.

I need no proof sir. I've seen things firsthand.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:56 PM

I had already checked those out, I thought Hdtvfan0001 was referring to something really advanced ... not impressed. Plus the OS is behind both Apple and Android. I can't believe RIM is sticking with the Storm name, Storm 3, considering what a disappointment it was, that is like Ford resurrecting the Edsel name.
Sorry Rim, too little and way too late. Hdtvfan0001... stay with Blackberry.. Rim needs all the cheerleaders it can retain.
A 2.8 inch screen... too funny.

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A bigger screen is what the Playbook is for.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:57 PM

A 2.8 inch screen... too funny.

Watching video on a rinky dinky iPhone/Android screen - way beyond funny....pathetic.

A bigger screen is what the Playbook is for.

Yup.

And that unit will kick butt.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 02:01 PM

A bigger screen is what the Playbook is for.


That seems to be what RIM believes...and why their announcements appear to be behind the times.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 02:06 PM

A bigger screen is what the Playbook is for.


Oh... didn't know the subject was about tablets, thought it was about phones. Well then.. never mind.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 03:40 PM

Oh... didn't know the subject was about tablets, thought it was about phones. Well then.. never mind.

!rolling

Had to laugh out loud at your comeback - good one.

You have a valid point, of course...then again...there are plenty of people who wouldn't be caught dead squinting at a small iPhone or DROID screen at streaming content, web pages, or the like. My eyes are getting too old for that kind of pressure. :D:lol:
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 03:44 PM

I don't use my Android for any of that either, but I still like the large screen. It makes reading Email, Checking my Calendar, scrolling through my contact list and many other things much easier.

As I said before, my Droid Incredible is used mainly for Phone, Email, Calendar, Contacts and the like and it's a much more enjoyable experience than my BlackBerry ever was.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 04:17 PM

We have alltel, but at the end of the month alltel is switching to AT&T in our
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 04:28 PM

!rolling

Had to laugh out loud at your comeback - good one.

You have a valid point, of course...then again...there are plenty of people who wouldn't be caught dead squinting at a small iPhone or DROID screen at streaming content, web pages, or the like. My eyes are getting too old for that kind of pressure. :D:lol:


My eyes share your limitations... that's why I use the Readers Digest large print fonts. ;)
Trust me, I'm not saying that any of these phones are a replacement for a good tablet, but are easier to fit in my pockets.
You seem to forget that I'm a long time user of BB. Those phones can't be beat for all the business reasons you have accurately stated. It's just that RIM just didn't keep up fast enough, which I have lamented many times. For me it is too late.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 04:57 PM

Yet its a major tech company, and forbids employee users to operate any non-BB devices based on "excessive costs tied to supporting iOS and Android-based devices and unproven security/scalability from consumer-oriented products that are not intended for business users". WIN7 is the desktop standard.

Any company that has employees that need corporate technical support to use their phones is on a trajectory for a serious downsizing.

In my limited experience, the Blackberries are far and away the most difficult smart phone to use. It is certainly the only device of any kind that I've needed outside help to configure e-mail (and I've configured security cameras to send incident e-mails through a secure e-mail server).

As for one version of Windows being any better or less suited to conducting business, I'm sure most would agree that W2K was probably the least intrusive and most stable.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 04:59 PM

Any company that has employees that need corporate technical support to use their phones is on a trajectory for a serious downsizing.

Really?

We grew a net of 950 employees over the past year. Guess not.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 06:40 PM

Any company that has employees that need corporate technical support to use their phones is on a trajectory for a serious downsizing.


Never dealt with a bunch of attorneys (500 or so) have you :)

Some are very tech literate, some have to ask questions. I found one who got an iPhone when it first came out, and asked me last week "What's iTunes." Others won't deal with the carrier, we call on their behalf on carrier issues, alert them to network outages, order phones that they are individually liable for. Some of these are very well regarded in their fields, but tech is not their strong suit.




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