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R.I.P. TVLand (channel not going away)


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#1 ONLINE   SayWhat?

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 12:26 PM

'Twas good to know ya' Started off great. Terrific show lineup for many years made you one of the best cable/sat channels available.


But then came a host of problems, not the least of which was a fashion/beauty/talent/amateur competition or two. Then there was the inundation of shows from the 90s. Adding so-called 'original' programming didn't help although the shows did give most of TV's out-of-work and over-the-hill sitcom actors another job.

The nail in your coffin though is the addition of CSI, a show I've never watched and will never watch. Despite the fact that you still run a few 70s shows like Good Times, Sanford and All in the Family, you have clearly abandoned the pretense of being a classic TV venue.

All that's left now is a name change. Just don't hire the group that came up with the new name for the SciFi Channel.
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 12:43 PM

When TVLand first went on the air, I watched it more than any other channel but after a few years, it went from being my favorite channel to one I would occasionally (mostly for the marathons) to a channel I can not even tell you when I turned it on last (must have been about the time someone at TVLand decided to label "Roseanne" a classic.
I like CSI (especially those before William Peterson left) but how many channels need to air it?

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 01:45 PM

So, what else is new? :shrug:

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 01:51 PM

Never watched it.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 02:03 PM

The inundation of 90's TV shows is somewhat expected... after all, the 90's are now starting to be 20 years ago... Perhaps they could focus on a certain decade each day... that would cover 5 days, and then mix it up on the weekends. Just my two cents, though. CSI and original series? As much as I like Betty White, they need to go...
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 02:20 PM

Never watched it.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 02:32 PM

BTW, if TVLand isn't going off the air, then your thread title is misleading.


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Posted 13 March 2011 - 03:35 PM

Where can I watch Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency?

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 03:37 PM

Where can I watch Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency?


Hulu.
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 04:05 PM

Where can I watch Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency?


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Posted 13 March 2011 - 04:05 PM

Where can I watch Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency?

netflix (without commercials)

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 09:27 PM

Where can I watch Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency?



RTN if any of your local stations carry it as a sub-channel.
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Posted 13 March 2011 - 10:10 PM

I think, you can watch Dragnet etc, on AOL tv if they are still doing that. I agree I haven't watched TV Land in a long time. In fact,tv in general is getting bad except for a few shows on History and Discover i could live with out it but I have to have my Cubbies during the summer. Have a great week. Max.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 10:30 PM

I wonder if TVLand has lost contracts to RTV, This, AntennaTV (and any other OTA networks carrying old TV shows)? With the startup of so many competitors it is hard to say that there isn't a market for what TVLand should be showing (instead of modern/first run programming).

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 10:44 PM

See, that's my point. Obviously the market is there. Even Reelz and Hallmark are getting into the act with shows like "Cheers", "Who's The Boss" and most recently "Empty Nest".

I'm not sure why WGN dropped their Retro Sunday nights unless it had something to do with the launch of Antenna TV.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 07:16 AM

The only thing I watch on TV Land is Hot In Cleveland. And thats tough to watch in SD.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:52 PM

It's my First Rule of TV Programming: Every channel, no matter what its original niche, evolves to become like every other channel. See The Nashville Network, SciFi, American Movie Classics, MTV, VH1, TV Land, the Weather Channel (!) and on and on. The Chess Channel may launch with nothing but endgames and fianchettos, but by the end of year five, it's going to be running sitcoms and reality shows.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:56 PM

It would seem that TVLand is like any other channel....it has to keep things moving or get stale and go away.

After all....how many times can folks really watch reruns of Gilligan's Island? :D
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 02:10 PM

Wellll..... TV Land, and before that Nick at Nite used to show a lot of 50s TV shows. Then they abandoned those for 60s TV shows. And so on and so forth, it's just a predictable progression. I have to say, it's not surprising either because there are so many other venues for classic TV.
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 02:16 PM

When TVLand first went on the air, I watched it more than any other channel but after a few years, it went from being my favorite channel to one I would occasionally (mostly for the marathons) to a channel I can not even tell you when I turned it on last (must have been about the time someone at TVLand decided to label "Roseanne" a classic.
I like CSI (especially those before William Peterson left) but how many channels need to air it?


Yeah, for me it was The Scifi Channel (from Friday Prime to wrestling on Friday nights now). I hate how niche channels lost their way.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 05:20 PM

Wellll..... TV Land, and before that Nick at Nite used to show a lot of 50s TV shows. Then they abandoned those for 60s TV shows. And so on and so forth, it's just a predictable progression.

They are progressing faster than the age of the programming they carry. They have moved from 40-50 year old TV to 20-30 year old TV to 0-10 year old TV. They are no longer "classic TV" programmers.

New TV about Old TV would be acceptable ... New TV in the style of Old TV marginal. But new TV that cannot be distinguished from programs on other channels? I suppose that explains the huge bug in the corner ... it is the only way to know what channel you're watching.

And while the purveyors of Old TV have lost the path the new networks have not been made available nationwide. If you are fortunate enough to be in a city with OTA Old TV and you have a good enough antenna you may have a couple more choices. Otherwise the new channels mean paying money to new programmers while still paying the old programmers for content they are no longer providing. It takes some courage for a carrier to drop a channel that is no longer performing the function it originally did - such as fuse or G4.

Even The Weather Channel was on the verge of losing 14 million subscribers last year because they had lost their way and were programming anything to do with weather (including feature films about weather or with some weather subplot such as a villain with a weather control machine) instead of forecasts and documentaries about weather. A line had to be drawn.

Is it time for a line to be drawn with TVLand? Get back to the purpose or be gone? Or is the repurposed TVLand still worthy of carriage? Genre level programming would be nice.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 05:37 PM

What used to make TV Land special, when it debuted in April 1996, were past series one could not find easily in syndication or other cable programmers' lineups. The channel sold out. Maybe it was a Viacom thing. But TV Land is garbage. One can find most of its scheduled programming on DVD.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 05:50 PM

Wellll..... TV Land, and before that Nick at Nite used to show a lot of 50s TV shows. Then they abandoned those for 60s TV shows. And so on and so forth, it's just a predictable progression. I have to say, it's not surprising either because there are so many other venues for classic TV.

If you include DVD releases, and streaming services like Netflix and HULU, then yes, I would agree there are other venues for classic TV that didn't exist when TV Land was launched. But Cable/satellite networks are virtually devoid of classic TV shows today.

Networks like RTV, Antenna TV, and Me TV are now available in many markets via digital subchannels or LP OTA, and could be a boon to classic TV fans, since most of those shows aren't screened on other channels, and a few haven't even been released on DVD or streaming services. But as James points out, those networks aren't available in all markets:

And while the purveyors of Old TV have lost the path the new networks have not been made available nationwide. If you are fortunate enough to be in a city with OTA Old TV and you have a good enough antenna you may have a couple more choices.



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Posted 14 March 2011 - 08:07 PM

Hmmmm..... let me check some series....
  • Angel - On TNT
  • Babylon 5 - Not being shown
  • Buffy, The Vampire Slayer - On Oxygen, Chiller, Logo
  • Star Trek (Classic) - Not being shown
  • Star Trek: Next Generation - On my local Fox station at 1:30 AM, BBC America, WGN, CWe
  • Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - Not being shown
  • Star Trek: Voyager - Not being shown
  • Star Trek: Enterprise - On SciFi
  • The X Files - On BBC America
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 08:25 PM

Then there's The Hub that's showing "Doogie Howser, MD", "Family Ties", "Happy Days" and "The Wonder Years".

Whoever is running what used to be TVLand has clearly misjudged the market.
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