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#1 OFFLINE   dod1450

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 09:34 AM

I saw this from a local HDTV email list and wondering anyone else had heard of this. That Salinas California 8.2 maybe on D* in June.


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#2 OFFLINE   Jon Ellis

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 07:16 PM

8.2 will be the ABC affiliate starting next month, so that's why they're carrying it. They generally do carry subchannels if they are a big-four affiliate.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 04:22 PM

So will the guide display as 8 or 8.2 for this new network?

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 06:20 PM

They usually put it on a different whole-number channel, sometimes the RF digital channel number (if it's different than the PSIP channel). I think DirecTV is the only one that puts some locals on x.x channels, and you can only receive those on HD receivers...but I may be wrong.

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 09:11 PM

D* currently doesn't put any subchannel from a local affliate in the satellite stream. Receivers using OTA tuners can get them from an OTA antenna, but not in the satellite stream.

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 11:38 PM

Salt Lake City"
PBS afilliates
9.KUEN
9-2.KUEN2

no OTA

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 04:29 AM

Salt Lake City"
PBS afilliates
9.KUEN
9-2.KUEN2

no OTA


Same pattern here in L.A.;

DirecTV carries both the local PBS affiliate KLCS as channel "58" in the guide, and one of its secondary OTA sub-channels as "58-2."

Don't know if the upcoming Salinas California channel will display as "8-2" in the guide but it likely will I'd wager.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:25 AM

My area has three sub-channels carried by DirecTV. They all have separate channel numbers. Channel 10 is MyNetwork which is 40-2 OTA, Channel 13 is The CW (12-2 OTA) and channel 20 is our NBC affiliate on 34-2 OTA. We don't have any of the secondary type sub channels.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 09:11 AM

It depends on the market on what subchannels are carried. For smaller markets, subchannels could be a major network, CW or MyNetwork TV.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 10:43 AM

It depends on the market on what subchannels are carried. For smaller markets, subchannels could be a major network, CW or MyNetwork TV.


I'm thinking it may be what the sub-channels are actually carrying might be the key. For instance if it is a completely separate network than what is carried on the main "x(x)-1" OTA sub-channel then DirecTV will give it a solely numerical number in the guide different from its pre-dash OTA number.

But if the secondary sub-channels carry minor programming mainly related to the local station originated material it will likely be assigned a dash number in the guide with the same pre-dash number as the main.

#11 OFFLINE   wilbur_the_goose

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 12:40 PM

8.2 will be the ABC affiliate starting next month, so that's why they're carrying it. They generally do carry subchannels if they are a big-four affiliate.


Jon,
Sorry - D* does not normally carry subchannels of the big 4.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 01:25 PM

Jon,
Sorry - D* does not normally carry subchannels of the big 4.


I think what Jon means, is that in markets where one of the big 4 are broadcast ON a subchannel, not subchannels OF the big 4 stations
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#13 OFFLINE   dishrich

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 01:36 PM

Jon,
Sorry - D* does not normally carry subchannels of the big 4.


So when you say "normally" did you mean they NEVER do, or ONLY in the examples already stated? :confused:

The point is, D* very much already DOES do this in some (read: smaller) DMA's, as that is the ONLY (legal) way those DMA's can get some primary, network prog locally. (ie: NOT from DNS service thru DBS)

AND in those same markets, normally if a station offers a missing network affiliate for that said DMA on a sub, (in the OP's case, there has NOT been a "local" OTA ABC affiliate for this DMA for over a decade now) that same affiliate WILL invoke "network non-duplication rules" over ANY cable OR DBS companies from importing distant signals of that same network affiliate.

In the case of D*, D* IS now being required to stop offering KGO-SanFran in the Monterey/Salinas DMA as they currently do, & to offer 8.2 in it's place - as that is the ONLY ABC affiliate they can legally offer in this DMA w/out a waiver from KSBW. (which AIN'T gonna happen!) DISH & all local cable co such as Comcast are having to do the VERY same thing in this DMA.
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As adkins & HoTat already explained, THAT is the very reason why DirecTV (& DISH, too) DO carry subchannels that are of network prog.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 02:54 PM

D* currently doesn't put any subchannel from a local affliate in the satellite stream. Receivers using OTA tuners can get them from an OTA antenna, but not in the satellite stream.


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