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#26 OFFLINE   Henry

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 11:34 AM

Isn't it a maritime law that you are obligated to render assistance, whether you caused the incident or not? I'm not sure the Japanese crew even offered.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 01:19 PM

Of course it is. The Japanese scoff at all maritime laws and simply refuse to admit anything, and totally lie about all of the circumstances in their encounters with the Sea Shepherds. We all know that via direct knowledge from watching the show.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 02:25 PM

Of course it is. The Japanese scoff at all maritime laws and simply refuse to admit anything, and totally lie about all of the circumstances in their encounters with the Sea Shepherds. We all know that via direct knowledge from watching the show.


I've watched all seasons so far, but I didn't archive any of them, so I couldn't remember if Pete (Bethume) and the Ady got an offer to assist from the Captain of the Shonan Maru 2.

It doesn't really matter. We all know what eventually happened to the Ady Gil. :nono2:
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 04:43 PM

I've watched all seasons so far, but I didn't archive any of them, so I couldn't remember if Pete (Bethume) and the Ady got an offer to assist from the Captain of the Shonan Maru 2.

It doesn't really matter. We all know what eventually happened to the Ady Gil. :nono2:


If I remember right the Japanese did reluctantly offer help but not until after all the other whaling vessels arrived on scene.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 07:09 PM

Yes, the Japanese did offer assistance after that ran into the Ady Gil and then hosed down the crew that were all sitting on the decks.

Lets hope the Sea Shepherds learned a lesson from this incident and refuel their new boat whenever they get a chance. Letting a vessel run out of fuel in that area of the world is asking for trouble.

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 09:51 AM

If I remember right the Japanese did reluctantly offer help but not until after all the other whaling vessels arrived on scene.


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Posted 14 April 2011 - 09:52 AM

Yes, the Japanese did offer assistance after that ran into the Ady Gil and then hosed down the crew that were all sitting on the decks.

Lets hope the Sea Shepherds learned a lesson from this incident and refuel their new boat whenever they get a chance. Letting a vessel run out of fuel in that area of the world is asking for trouble.


If the "war" is indeed over, fuel won't be a problem going forward. :hurah:
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:28 AM

Japanese whaling operations are a separate issue. I have a problem with individuals and groups who take part in eco-terrorism methods without concern for injury or loss of life. You cannot condemn one, while condoning the other.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:40 AM

Japanese whaling operations are a separate issue. I have a problem with individuals and groups who take part in eco-terrorism methods without concern for injury or loss of life. You cannot condemn one, while condoning the other.


Hey, the eco-terrorist are only doing it for “tissue samples”. :lol:

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:54 AM

Japanese whaling operations are a separate issue. I have a problem with individuals and groups who take part in eco-terrorism methods without concern for injury or loss of life. You cannot condemn one, while condoning the other.


Right you are!

The operative word here is awareness. Is there another TV show that covers one of the "others"?

Before you dismiss the Japanese whaling operations as a "separate issue", maybe you should watch some of the slaughtering that Whale Wars so helplessly depicts. That's awareness!
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Posted 16 April 2011 - 01:15 PM

For the way they treat whales and dolphins, John Lennon might say the Nipponese are suffering from Instant Karma right about now.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 01:56 PM

For the way they treat whales and dolphins, John Lennon might say the Nipponese are suffering from Instant Karma right about now.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 03:06 PM

For the way they treat whales and dolphins, John Lennon might say the Nipponese are suffering from Instant Karma right about now.


I've read a few things here and there that hint to the fact that whaling is done for good because of the earthquake. The Nisshin Maru was re-purposed as a support/supply ship upon its return to port on 3/21. This is apparently for the foreseeable future.
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Posted 17 April 2011 - 02:22 AM

Whales 1, Heartless Killers 0. Works for me!

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:28 PM

I've read a few things here and there that hint to the fact that whaling is done for good because of the earthquake. The Nisshin Maru was re-purposed as a support/supply ship upon its return to port on 3/21. This is apparently for the foreseeable future.


The Sea Shepherds also thought there wouldn't be another season. But last month the Japanese ministry overseeing whaling "research" asked that a Japanese Coast Guard cutter be sent with their fleet next season to protect their "research." There are some legal issues (war ships are not allowed in the treaty area) and funding restraints to this request, so the Coast Guard ship probably won't be sent.

But earlier this week at the International Whaling Commission's annual meeting, the Japanese made an official statement that the Japanese whaling fleet intends to return to the Southern Ocean this December.

Sea Shepherds have said they will be there with at least three ships (looking for a fourth) and there will be a fifth season to Whale Wars.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:49 PM

Whether or not you agree with whaling, as far as I know it's a legal venture. So why wouldn't any vessel interfering with that be subject to being fired on or sunk as a pirate ship?

Even if they were in a questionable or disputed area, what gives a private vessel the legal right to interfere?
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:51 PM

Whether or not you agree with whaling, as far as I know it's a legal venture. So why wouldn't any vessel interfering with that be subject to being fired on or sunk as a pirate ship?

Even if they were in a questionable or disputed area, what gives a private vessel the legal right to interfere?


These jokers are more likely to sink themselves!
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:52 PM

The Sea Shepherds also thought there wouldn't be another season. But last month the Japanese ministry overseeing whaling "research" asked that a Japanese Coast Guard cutter be sent with their fleet next season to protect their "research." There are some legal issues (war ships are not allowed in the treaty area) and funding restraints to this request, so the Coast Guard ship probably won't be sent.

But earlier this week at the International Whaling Commission's annual meeting, the Japanese made an official statement that the Japanese whaling fleet intends to return to the Southern Ocean this December.

Sea Shepherds have said they will be there with at least three ships (looking for a fourth) and there will be a fifth season to Whale Wars.


Yeah, the coast guard ship will be a definite no go for the whaling fleet. Although if they did it then other countries would actually jump in to enforce the laws.

Also if they try again what they did this year, sailing into Chile's waters, there may be an "International incident".

As a side note the Sea Shepherd ships have been repainted in the old WWI sea cammo motif. They look really cool too. Oh, and the Gojira is no longer the Gojira because of trademark issues. It is now the Bridget Bardot.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:55 PM

Whether or not you agree with whaling, as far as I know it's a legal venture. So why wouldn't any vessel interfering with that be subject to being fired on or sunk as a pirate ship?

Even if they were in a questionable or disputed area, what gives a private vessel the legal right to interfere?


Whaling is not a legal venture at all. The reasons the Japanese get away with it is 1. They claim it's for research and 2. No country in the world is willing to enforce the laws because of the climate around Antarctica.

The "private vessel" is actually enforcing the laws that other countries can't be bothered to do. As long as they are not hurting anyone, and stay within the law, they are allowed to try to stop the whalers from breaking the law.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:57 PM

These jokers are more likely to sink themselves!


They clearly are not naval personnel or well trained but at least they are doing what no one else is gutsy enough to do.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:13 PM

The "private vessel" is actually enforcing the laws that other countries can't be bothered to do.


On whose authority? The same that the Somalis use to collect 'fees' for passage anywhere near their coastline?
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:14 PM

They clearly are not naval personnel or well trained but at least they are doing what no one else is gutsy enough to do.


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You'd think by now the Japanese had enough (cough, cough) tissue samples. :lol:

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:16 PM

I'm sure the Japanese have a few WWII torpedoes laying around somewhere that would end the Sea Serpent's reign of maritime terror.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:24 PM

They clearly are not naval personnel or well trained but at least they are doing what no one else is gutsy enough to do.


Putting human lives in danger to play reckless vigilante?
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:44 AM

On whose authority? The same that the Somalis use to collect 'fees' for passage anywhere near their coastline?


Clearly you're a hater...
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