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#41 OFFLINE   SayWhat?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:49 PM

Whether or not you agree with whaling, as far as I know it's a legal venture. So why wouldn't any vessel interfering with that be subject to being fired on or sunk as a pirate ship?

Even if they were in a questionable or disputed area, what gives a private vessel the legal right to interfere?
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:51 PM

Whether or not you agree with whaling, as far as I know it's a legal venture. So why wouldn't any vessel interfering with that be subject to being fired on or sunk as a pirate ship?

Even if they were in a questionable or disputed area, what gives a private vessel the legal right to interfere?


These jokers are more likely to sink themselves!
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:52 PM

The Sea Shepherds also thought there wouldn't be another season. But last month the Japanese ministry overseeing whaling "research" asked that a Japanese Coast Guard cutter be sent with their fleet next season to protect their "research." There are some legal issues (war ships are not allowed in the treaty area) and funding restraints to this request, so the Coast Guard ship probably won't be sent.

But earlier this week at the International Whaling Commission's annual meeting, the Japanese made an official statement that the Japanese whaling fleet intends to return to the Southern Ocean this December.

Sea Shepherds have said they will be there with at least three ships (looking for a fourth) and there will be a fifth season to Whale Wars.


Yeah, the coast guard ship will be a definite no go for the whaling fleet. Although if they did it then other countries would actually jump in to enforce the laws.

Also if they try again what they did this year, sailing into Chile's waters, there may be an "International incident".

As a side note the Sea Shepherd ships have been repainted in the old WWI sea cammo motif. They look really cool too. Oh, and the Gojira is no longer the Gojira because of trademark issues. It is now the Bridget Bardot.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:55 PM

Whether or not you agree with whaling, as far as I know it's a legal venture. So why wouldn't any vessel interfering with that be subject to being fired on or sunk as a pirate ship?

Even if they were in a questionable or disputed area, what gives a private vessel the legal right to interfere?


Whaling is not a legal venture at all. The reasons the Japanese get away with it is 1. They claim it's for research and 2. No country in the world is willing to enforce the laws because of the climate around Antarctica.

The "private vessel" is actually enforcing the laws that other countries can't be bothered to do. As long as they are not hurting anyone, and stay within the law, they are allowed to try to stop the whalers from breaking the law.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:57 PM

These jokers are more likely to sink themselves!


They clearly are not naval personnel or well trained but at least they are doing what no one else is gutsy enough to do.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:13 PM

The "private vessel" is actually enforcing the laws that other countries can't be bothered to do.


On whose authority? The same that the Somalis use to collect 'fees' for passage anywhere near their coastline?
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:14 PM

They clearly are not naval personnel or well trained but at least they are doing what no one else is gutsy enough to do.


+1

You'd think by now the Japanese had enough (cough, cough) tissue samples. :lol:

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:16 PM

I'm sure the Japanese have a few WWII torpedoes laying around somewhere that would end the Sea Serpent's reign of maritime terror.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:24 PM

They clearly are not naval personnel or well trained but at least they are doing what no one else is gutsy enough to do.


Putting human lives in danger to play reckless vigilante?
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:44 AM

On whose authority? The same that the Somalis use to collect 'fees' for passage anywhere near their coastline?


Clearly you're a hater...
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:44 AM

Putting human lives in danger to play reckless vigilante?


Their own lives. What does it hurt you? It doesn't...
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:25 AM

Putting human lives in danger to play reckless vigilante?


Their own lives. What does it hurt you? It doesn't...


Yup, sometimes you have to take a risk in order to do the right thing. Just ask any fireman or police officer. Mankind is sh*tting all over this planet. I think it’s rather cool to see a group give a damn.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:17 AM

Their own lives. What does it hurt you? It doesn't...


The problem is that they are not risking just their own lives. They are also risking the lives of the Japanese crew and any emergency/military personnel that would have to respond to a situation THEY caused. It's reckless and irresponsible.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:20 AM

Yup, sometimes you have to take a risk in order to do the right thing. Just ask any fireman or police officer. Mankind is sh*tting all over this planet. I think it’s rather cool to see a group give a damn.


Oh please, let's not compare these goons to fire and police personnel. That's just offensive.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:00 AM

The problem is that they are not risking just their own lives. They are also risking the lives of the Japanese crew and any emergency/military personnel that would have to respond to a situation THEY caused. It's reckless and irresponsible.


If you think they are risking the lives of the Japanese crew you clearly have never seen the show. If anything it's the Japanese threatening the lives of the Sea Shepherd volunteers when they run over their boats.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:01 AM

Oh please, let's not compare these goons to fire and police personnel. That's just offensive.


No, no comparison. The people trying to save an entire species are better.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:14 AM

If you think they are risking the lives of the Japanese crew you clearly have never seen the show. If anything it's the Japanese threatening the lives of the Sea Shepherd volunteers when they run over their boats.


Well, if the Sea Snakes weren't there interfering...........
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:16 AM

No, no comparison. The people trying to save an entire species are better.


I've read some crazy stuff on the internet, but this takes the cake. WOW! The firefighters and cops who ran into the World Trade Centers are true heroes unlike these wannabe vigilantes trying to play sea police.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:38 AM

If you think they are risking the lives of the Japanese crew you clearly have never seen the show. If anything it's the Japanese threatening the lives of the Sea Shepherd volunteers when they run over their boats.


You mean when the vigilantes attempt to use their vessels as weapons and cross paths with Japanese ships. Those moronic goons are among the worst sailors on the open seas. When you intentionally position yourself to pass directly in front of a massive ship and you get runover...there is no one else you can blame for it. I have seen the show and I have watched where their own stupidity has left them stranded and their ships disabled.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:40 AM

No, no comparison. The people trying to save an entire species are better.


Oh my. How completely disrespectful and disgusting. If you have any police officers or fire fighters in your family, please don't let them know just how little you think of them.
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