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#26 OFFLINE   SamC

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 05:12 AM

I actually rarely watch ESPN anymore - I'm more apt to go right to Channels 212,213,215. Not a fan of basketball or the ESPN brand anymore.


This.

ESPN just grossly overcovers pro basketball. If you took a time study of all major sports and the amount of time they are covered on SC, PTI, ATH, SR, and on the ESPNR shows and held that relative to their ratings and live gate, you would, I am certain, find that ESPN devotes an amount roughly porportional to each sport based on its popularity. Except the NBA. Hundreds, if not thousands of times more coverage than is warrented for a sport that most Americans simply do not follow.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 05:23 AM

This.

ESPN just grossly overcovers pro basketball. If you took a time study of all major sports and the amount of time they are covered on SC, PTI, ATH, SR, and on the ESPNR shows and held that relative to their ratings and live gate, you would, I am certain, find that ESPN devotes an amount roughly porportional to each sport based on its popularity. Except the NBA. Hundreds, if not thousands of times more coverage than is warrented for a sport that most Americans simply do not follow.


It's 2nd only to the NFL in ratings/popularity.
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#28 OFFLINE   SamC

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 06:02 AM

That is simply not so.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 06:06 AM

That is simply not so.


Ratings charts say otherwise. The NFL obviously dominated the 2010 ratings for most watched sports events with the NBA clearly outnumbering MLB & NHL.
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Posted 22 April 2011 - 04:53 AM

Actually not. The total poplarity of many sports excedes the NBA. 95% of Americans simiply have no interest in it, despite ESPN telling them to.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 07:25 AM

According to the Nielson TV ratings (as determined by numbers of TVs watching a particular sports on average) ranks as follows:

NFL (National Football League)
NBA (National Basketball Association)
MLB (Major League Baseball)
NCAA football (college football)
NCAA basketball (college basketball)
NASCAR (stock car racing)
WWE (professional wrestling)
NHL (National Hockey League)
AFL (Arena Football League)
WNBA (Women's National Basketball Association)
MLS (Major League Soccer)
IRL (Indy Racing League)

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 07:31 AM

Actually not. The total poplarity of many sports excedes the NBA. 95% of Americans simiply have no interest in it, despite ESPN telling them to.


Technically, both you and Sigma1914 are correct.

There are many polls out there which clearly shows that the NBA is not nearly as popular as MLB, NHL, or even NASCAR but when it comes to television ratings, The NBA is a definite second.

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#33 OFFLINE   JosephB

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 08:55 AM

According to the Nielson TV ratings (as determined by numbers of TVs watching a particular sports on average) ranks as follows:

NFL (National Football League)
NBA (National Basketball Association)
MLB (Major League Baseball)
NCAA football (college football)
NCAA basketball (college basketball)
NASCAR (stock car racing)
WWE (professional wrestling)
NHL (National Hockey League)
AFL (Arena Football League)
WNBA (Women's National Basketball Association)
MLS (Major League Soccer)
IRL (Indy Racing League)


The first half of that I believe, but the second half of that I am sure has to do with availability as much as popularity. I find it hard to believe that AFL or WNBA is more popular than IndyCar or soccer. Ratings are probably what they are due to being carried on networks that don't have the penetration as others. (ESPN carries AFL, or at least did at one point, for example)

Technically, both you and Sigma1914 are correct.

There are many polls out there which clearly shows that the NBA is not nearly as popular as MLB, NHL, or even NASCAR but when it comes to television ratings, The NBA is a definite second.


I'd be highly suspect of those polls, though. Sports are a fickle beast, and you can't just take a random sampling and get a good idea of how they're doing. NBA does really well with urban audiences, NASCAR with more rural and suburban audiences. Comparing some of these things can get kind of tricky.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 10:42 AM

The first half of that I believe, but the second half of that I am sure has to do with availability as much as popularity. I find it hard to believe that AFL or WNBA is more popular than IndyCar or soccer. Ratings are probably what they are due to being carried on networks that don't have the penetration as others. (ESPN carries AFL, or at least did at one point, for example)


The list I provided was solely based on TV ratings. Naturally, a sport which has a better TV contract and is available in more outlets is going to have a higher viewership then someone who doesn't.

I'd be highly suspect of those polls, though. Sports are a fickle beast, and you can't just take a random sampling and get a good idea of how they're doing. NBA does really well with urban audiences, NASCAR with more rural and suburban audiences. Comparing some of these things can get kind of tricky.


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Posted 24 April 2011 - 04:27 PM

under the new deal will NBC games stay on to the end? or will they move to VS or other channels to may way for pre race coverage of a horse race?
I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 08:35 AM

I know this thread is about the new NHL TV deal starting next season. But what I'm wondering is why aren't all of the Stanley Cup Final games on a national network, NBC? Why are games 3 and 4 on Versus? I could see the first two games being on Versus, then switching over to NBC for the rest, but to start on NBC, then go back to Versus, then back to NBC doesn't make any sense. If the NHL really wants to grow the sport of hockey, which I know is hard to do, then ALL of the SCF games should be on NBC.

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 09:28 AM

this current contract with nbc / versus, VS has done 2 stanley cup final games. they usually do first 2 games on VS and finishout with nbc but i was a bit suprised to see the split.

but in any event it should be a great final, we will have for the 2nd st year a team trying to end a 30 year plus drought VAN 0 cups bos last cup i think was 70

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 09:57 AM

bos last cup i think was 70

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 06:56 AM

I know this thread is about the new NHL TV deal starting next season. But what I'm wondering is why aren't all of the Stanley Cup Final games on a national network, NBC? Why are games 3 and 4 on Versus? I could see the first two games being on Versus, then switching over to NBC for the rest, but to start on NBC, then go back to Versus, then back to NBC doesn't make any sense. If the NHL really wants to grow the sport of hockey, which I know is hard to do, then ALL of the SCF games should be on NBC.


VS did games 3 and 4 last year also.

VS got those games because of low ratings for Cup Finals on NBC . NBC didn't want all 7 games any more. Finals ratings in 2006,2007 were really embarrassing.NBC finished dead last for those nights with NHL Cup Finals Games




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